Decided to try Qobuz

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muncybob
muncybob Posts: 3,318
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my first trip with a streaming service other than Pandora. I have the 30 day free trial but all that plays are 30 second clips. How do I get a complete album or set up a "station" that will play elated artists?
Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,447
    edited October 2
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    Why do only want to play artists who are extremely happy?




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  • heiney9
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    That's weird. Are you using their interphase controller? I use Roon to integrate Qobuz, so it's been a long time since I used the Qobuz app. The app is kind of clunky (compared to Roon) but it works well and should offer more than 30 seconds playback.

    You're not in the "purchasing" part of the app? That only plays about 30 sec snippets when you want to purchase and DL music.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,237
    edited October 2
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    I tried their free trials a couple times, using the Daphile plugin. It was very easy to search for albums and play the full album. I think you must be interfacing with it incorrectly, or you're not logged in correctly on whatever app you are using. I know if I try to play Qobuz now, without a subscription, it only plays short snips of music.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,905
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    My guess also is not logged in/validated fully to an active account.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,228
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    I have had Tidal and now I have Qobuz. Qobuz rules!
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,432
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    I don't like either, but it seems it's all we got maybe?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,699
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    Conradicles wrote: »
    I don't like either, but it seems it's all we got maybe?

    When I hear people say this about Qobuz, I seriously wonder why? I'm about as critical as one can be about the source and I find very little if anything wrong with Qobuz streaming. It's as good or better than any redbook CD I own.

    No one has yet to succinctly state why they don't like it. It's usually vague generalizations. I have ZERO issues with how it sounds. I've compared my FLAC rips right next to the Qobuz version, I hear zero differences.

    I know that Qobuz doesn't have every available version of every release. So it is possible that some of a particular release is not the best version offered on Qobuz, but I haven't found any issues..........and I'm a very picky MFer when it comes to source material.

    I have to think people could have other issues in their system or the way they are acquiring their stream from Qobuz, if it's so poor for them.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,237
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    I thought Qobuz sounded great, but ultimately, I prefer to pick my source media by specific digital masterings, and then track down the CD, rip it to my local media server and then have it forever available.
    If you like to explore music and don't want to maintain a curated digital collection, I think Qobuz is currently the best streaming option... unless you want a radio station experience... then just listen to Radio Paradise for free (or choose to support them like I do).
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,699
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    That's a great way to procure exactly what you want/like. But you can still use Qobuz for the slightly lesser important music.
    One thing I like about it; it has allowed me to go way deeper into a group or solo artists catalog and explore their entire recording career. I am not a millionaire and to "purchase" every recording from my casual likes just isn't financially possible. Plus, to me, it's a chore to rips cds to my music server unless it's not available on Qobuz.
    Plus I can it all at my finger tips. I don't have to perhaps "set aside" certain amount of funds for cd purchases each month, etc.
    My brother is the opposite. He has to have the physical media. He even agrees Qobuz sounds great (as good as the cd). But he has no interest in streaming, he needs to own. He' s single and can "indulge" himself in buying copious amounts of cds (mostly from used cd bins) from 2-3 surrounding states. The hunt and finding a hole in the wall record store from a forgotten era is part of why he likes the hunt to own the physical media.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,228
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Qobuz has given me new appreciation for a wide range of music I might never have heard. Rap still suck regardless however.
    Hit the target right on w this comment. Qobuz has a great selection of classical, ambient, jazz, new "alternative", and everything in between.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,432
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    I should have clarified, sound quality is acceptable. My gripe is the overall user experience for both Tidal and Qobuz.
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,318
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    I checked and I am logged in. Gave my credit card info for payment after the 30 day trial...still only 30 second clips.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,237
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    muncybob wrote: »
    I checked and I am logged in. Gave my credit card info for payment after the 30 day trial...still only 30 second clips.

    What is your streaming device? Which app are you using?
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,443
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    Spotify Premium still does it for me, and has a great interface. If I really want a better version of an album, I'll seek out a CD, or download a hi-res version. My Innuos Zen MkIII has a built-in ripper and SSD, so very easy to rip and store CDs.

    I do have a Qobuz 'account', but not active, so I can do the 30 second snippets. I should do some hard 30 second comparisons to Spotify. The Qobuz snippets tend to be from the middle of the songs, though.
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  • treitz3
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    muncybob wrote: »
    I checked and I am logged in. Gave my credit card info for payment after the 30 day trial...still only 30 second clips.

    That should not be happening. You should be able to pull full song/albums. I will be full, unlimited access. Something is amiss.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,399
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    Spotify Premium for me. Excellent sound quality & superb interface. I did try Tidal & Qobus & both sounded excellent but both services were the pits when it came to their interfaces. Neither one of those two can hold a candle compared to Spotify.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,237
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    The interface wouldn't be a deciding factor for me. Qobuz pays the artists about 4-5 times more per stream compared to Spotify.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,699
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    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Spotify Premium for me. Excellent sound quality & superb interface. I did try Tidal & Qobus & both sounded excellent but both services were the pits when it came to their interfaces. Neither one of those two can hold a candle compared to Spotify.

    Because I use Roon, the interphase is a non-issue. IMO, it wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst either. But I have limited experiences with the other services.

    Most people who use Qobuz have a streaming device that has it's own operating interphase so unless you are using a bare bones streamer the actual Qobuz interphase should be a non-issue.

    But to each their own and I know we all have different needs and expectations. For me it's number one about the music and that's what I'm looking for.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • treitz3
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    All I care about is the sound. For me? Qobuz is where it's at. (I have Tidal as well)

    Tom
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  • VR3
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    The first time I tried quobuz this happened and quobuz customer support was zero help and I ultimately canceled the service after being unable to find a fix
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  • heiney9
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    At the OP, what device are you using for a streamer?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • pearsall001
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    I put this debate to the test & subscribed to all 3 at the same time. In the end for me it was like splitting hairs sonically but then again when it came to the interface & ease of use Spotify took the cake by a mile. I just use the Spotify phone app, nothing fancy but it just works. Easy peasey you might say. And another extra bonus with Spotify is the simple interface with my car audio system. I have set up a lot of Road Trip playlists now that we're traveling frequently to La Plata, MD to visit our sons family & new granddaughter.
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  • Gardenstater
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    Are you sure you don't have two accounts maybe with different email? Make sure you are on the one that is the free trial.
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  • muncybob
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    Bingo George! I had forgotten that I had another account from many moons ago. All is good now.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • Gardenstater
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    Ding Ding Ding. Happened to me too Lol
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,082
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    Qobuz is awesome and sounds fantastic streamed through my Simaudio. I share the sentiments of others. Huge catalog of high res audio allows me to discover music I never would have otherwise. It also is a great entry point for my kids to listen to music and discover real 2 channel audio. They can pick the songs they want to the way their generation is used to.

    Searching can be a bit clunky and not always return exactly what Im looking for. I have also found that songs in my playlists grey out because a Qobuz License expired and they replaced the track with the same track but a different file that I have to go find. I have found using the PC browser interface for some admin functions works better than the app.
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  • HzTweaker
    HzTweaker Posts: 1,133
    edited October 9
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    billbillw wrote: »
    I thought Qobuz sounded great, but ultimately, I prefer to pick my source media by specific digital masterings, and then track down the CD, rip it to my local media server and then have it forever available.
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Spotify Premium still does it for me, and has a great interface. If I really want a better version of an album, I'll seek out a CD, or download a hi-res version. My Innuos Zen MkIII has a built-in ripper and SSD, so very easy to rip and store CDs.

    Slightly off topic here but I just got a cd player that also rips CDs to a flash drive and thought that was awesome until I found out the player only rips the CDs in mp3 format :s . Do y'alls players do the same or does it keep the AIFF format when ripped? @billbillw & @jdjohn
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,237
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    HzTweaker wrote: »
    billbillw wrote: »
    I thought Qobuz sounded great, but ultimately, I prefer to pick my source media by specific digital masterings, and then track down the CD, rip it to my local media server and then have it forever available.
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Spotify Premium still does it for me, and has a great interface. If I really want a better version of an album, I'll seek out a CD, or download a hi-res version. My Innuos Zen MkIII has a built-in ripper and SSD, so very easy to rip and store CDs.

    Slightly off topic here but I just got a cd player that also rips CDs to a flash drive and thought that was awesome until I found out the player only rips the CDs in mp3 format :s . Do y'alls players do the same or does it keep the AIFF format when ripped? @billbillw & @jdjohn

    All my ripping is on my PC from an attached computer DVD/Blu-ray drive. My "players” now are from one of several DACs or AVRs. I do have an old Sony SACD changer, but it is for nostalgia or when I need to show my kids how a CD player works.
    When I rip, they are saved as FLAC lossless files. If I want MP3s, I just convert the FLAC to MP3 V0 and have it saved in a separate Car/iPod/Flash MP3 folder that isn't seen my my music server.
    TMI maybe? 😅
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