R2R dac vs. Delta Sigma type dac

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,590
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    Yes, for the $$$ it's supposed to be excellent build and over built power supply, etc. And only NOS.

    Equipped with R2R network and vector step resistor network at the same time. The R2R network is used for primary digital-to-analog conversion of the PCM stream, and the vector step resistor network is used for primary digital-to-analog conversion of the DSD stream

    The above is not something I've run across in the units I've looked at.

    I particularly like it only does NOS. Roon has an excellent oversampling and DSD engine built in that I can mess around with, if I so choose. My Roon Nucleus 1 has enough power to use it as well.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,590
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    It arrived. The guy didn't tell me he owns Midwest Audio in Indiana. Jason Walker is who I've been dealing with.

    https://www.stereophile.com/content/welcome-midwest-audio

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 9,159
    edited June 27
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    Roon has an excellent oversampling and DSD engine built in that I can mess around with, if I so choose.

    I've been converting everything to DSD with Roon for years. It will also do PCM. The CPU in your device determines how high a level you can convert to. Roon shows the processing speed at top of Signal Path. It shows the rate of processing the audio compared to the speed of playback.

    Here I am at 1.7 with DSD512. Anything below 1.2 and you can get dropouts or no sound at all. I had to upgrade my CPU in the old Sonore Server to do DSD512. The old Intel MB only allowed for up to an Intel Quad Core i7-2600. With the old i5 CPU, DSD256 was ~1.3, 1.4.

    My DAC converts native DSD to PCM for the R2R ladder but it has a one-bit DAC to play native DSD without conversion. With DAC's that convert DSD to PCM I always suggest folks try it both ways. That is try equivalent high-res PCM and DSD with conversion to PCM to hear what sounds best.

    I'm still running Sonore Server>USB to Singxer SU-6 DDC>I2S via HDMI>Gustard R26 DAC>XLR to ARC Ref 3.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,590
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    I have a Roon Nucleus One server. I haven't had a chance to really get into it yet. Thanks for the information. Once I get settled with the sound "as is", I will definitely be experimenting with the DSD engine and oversampling. I will be somewhat limited because of the constraints of the Nucleus One and its processing power.

    The NO only does USB.

    With these specs I feel the Cyan 2 is pretty future proof.

    PCM 44.1-1.536M (32bit)

    DSD 64-512X (DOP)

    DSD 64-1024X (Native)

    The Nucleus One I believe has a max DSD (DOP) of DSD256. I am just learning and figuring it all out at this point. I'm just a noob when it comes to this OS and DSD stuff.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!