SACD / CD Player
kevhed72
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My Onkyo has bit the dust....which makes me sad since I just hooked it back up. Looking for a good, used player or transport that is considered "bullet proof" in terms of spinning and laser reliability. Also looking for good recommendations. Budgets is 1k which is a lot, but 850 much more doable. Thanks dudes.
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Man o man I am a sucker for an open box deal - what yall think of this Denon?
https://www.safeandsoundhq.com/products/denon-dcd-1700ne-cd-sacd-player-with-advanced-al32-processing-plus-open-box?variant=52792315969903
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Are you planning to use a DAC with it or just straight from the analog outs?
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DAC is the plan. Key is it has to play SACDs also.Are you planning to use a DAC with it or just straight from the analog outs?
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Hard pass! Denon lasers were my two least dependable players. I won't even get into their customer service.
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If you go for a DSD capable DAC, you might consider just ripping all your SACDs using a cheap bluray player and then you don't have to worry about another unit dying. For simplicity, I extracted the DSD files off all my SACDs about 7 years ago. Done once, and no worries about the laser going bad. There is no quality lost. You can play them from an SSD if you have a streamer than can read from local storage, or host them on a NAS which is nice, especially if you already have one.
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Hard pass! Denon lasers were my two least dependable players. I won't even get into their customer service.
Thank you sir..Here are some other options:
Yamaha 2000
Oppo 105
Sony ES but these are getting old in the tooth
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While I appreciate this idea, I will never get around to ripping my SACDs to local storage or a laptop.
If you go for a DSD capable DAC, you might consider just ripping all your SACDs using a cheap bluray player and then you don't have to worry about another unit dying. For simplicity, I extracted the DSD files off all my SACDs about 7 years ago. Done once, and no worries about the laser going bad. There is no quality lost. You can play them from an SSD if you have a streamer than can read from local storage, or host them on a NAS which is nice, especially if you already have one.
I had a post in the Going Digital sub-forum about a year ago with links to other sites that detail the process.
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At some point (we may already be there), there will be a severe shortage of good quality SACD players. Just saying.
They are pretty rare, but maybe worth looking. I was really happy with the Pioneer Elite PD-D9j that I had before I ripped my SACDs. The build quality was better than anything I saw at the time under $1000. There is essentially no difference between the original and MkII version other than cosmetic. I compared the service manuals at one point. -
Hard pass! Denon lasers were my two least dependable players. I won't even get into their customer service.
Agree. Every Denon combo DVD/SACD player I've owned needed a laser replacement, even at less than 5 years old. I never touched the brand for disc players after the 3930 model I had needed two laser replacements (DIY) to start working. Even then, it was the most picky player I've ever owned. It didn't really like CD-R discs.
EDIT: Actually, looking back at some of my thoughts when I had the 3930, it didn't have trouble with CD-R, it was the home burned videos on DVD-R that it didn't like. I did replace the laser and recall that being a headache.Post edited by billbillw on -
The Oppo Blu Ray players I have had have been bullet proof, if there really is such a thing when it comes to physical disc players. The disc drives will fail eventually.
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I personally like the higher end Yamaha spinners.
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Are you looking for newer or older?
I have a couple I’d consider letting go.
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Either is fine.skipshot12 wrote: »Are you looking for newer or older?
I have a couple I’d consider letting go.
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I have a couple disc spinners I’d part with.
One’s the Marantz DV9600 and the other is a Pioneer DV-AX10.
Also have a Marantz BD8002 that does everything including blu-ray but it does not play sacd.
PM me if you may be interested.
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I have a few sitting around that are available.
Denon DBP-1611UD BlueRay, DVD-V, DVD-A, SACD
Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD-V, DVD-A, SACD
Sony DVP-NC80V SACD multi disc
Oppo DV-980H DVD-V, DVD-A, SACD display is dim.
I believe that I have remotes for all.Stan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601 -
Forgot to mention I have the original shipping box, manual & remote for the Marantz.
I’m the only owner, bought it new through Marantz.
The Pioneer I also have the original manual, remote and shipping box. I don’t have all the original innards for the pioneer’s shipping container though.
I’m the 2nd owner of the DV-AX10.
Purchased the Pioneer off the original owner on Audiogon many years ago.
Both are in excellent condition, play and cosmetically, with a couple marks on the Pioneer.
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PM sentskipshot12 wrote: »Forgot to mention I have the original shipping box, manual & remote for the Marantz.
I’m the only owner, bought it new through Marantz.
The Pioneer I also have the original manual, remote and shipping box. I don’t have all the original innards for the pioneer’s shipping container though.
I’m the 2nd owner of the DV-AX10.
Purchased the Pioneer off the original owner on Audiogon many years ago.
Both are in excellent condition, play and cosmetically, with a couple marks on the Pioneer.
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skipshot12 wrote: »I have a couple disc spinners I’d part with.
One’s the Marantz DV9600 and the other is a Pioneer DV-AX10.
Also have a Marantz BD8002 that does everything including blu-ray but it does not play sacd.
PM me if you may be interested.
SkipI have a few sitting around that are available.
Denon DBP-1611UD BlueRay, DVD-V, DVD-A, SACD
Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD-V, DVD-A, SACD
Sony DVP-NC80V SACD multi disc
Oppo DV-980H DVD-V, DVD-A, SACD display is dim.
I believe that I have remotes for all.
Obviously I'm on the back burner, but I might be interested in one of the players mentioned above. Please let me know if no deal is made. Thanks
2ch rig: Speakers: Magnepan LRS w/Magna Riser stands Preamplifier: Parasound P5 Amplifier: Parasound A23 CDP: Pioneer DV-563A Cables: Wireworld Equinox 7 XLR ICs, Wireworld Ultraviolet 7 USB, AudioQuest Q2s, AudioQuest NRG X(preamp)
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Nothing yet Hz.
Kevhed said he’s thinking about it.
Which one are you thinking?
The Pioneer is a beast.
Have two of them.
Have had my eye on the Marantz UD9004 but, they’re not in my price range.
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Man that Pioneer is a beast after checking out some of the videos online. Ill decide here soon and update you Skip.
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Stereo phil reviewed that Pioneer when it came out.
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skipshot12 wrote: »Stereo phil reviewed that Pioneer when it came out.
Check it out.
I will, thanks!2ch rig: Speakers: Magnepan LRS w/Magna Riser stands Preamplifier: Parasound P5 Amplifier: Parasound A23 CDP: Pioneer DV-563A Cables: Wireworld Equinox 7 XLR ICs, Wireworld Ultraviolet 7 USB, AudioQuest Q2s, AudioQuest NRG X(preamp)
Standby: LSi9s with VR3's Fortress mods
