What's your limit on Speakers?

mantis
mantis Posts: 17,394
Hello everyone,

How far are you willing to go? Have you ever found a product that exceeded your expectations and then having you question IF you should go any further?

What is the cap? At what point to do speakers start to cost to much and not get the rewards your looking for? Are you willing to spend what you could buy a car for?

Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.

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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,950
    I've reached the point where I can't afford the speakers that would outperform the ones I have.
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,556
    My limit on speakers?

    Two.

    One left channel.

    One right channel.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,926
    Viking64 wrote: »
    My limit on speakers?

    Two.

    One left channel.

    One right channel.

    It's actually three. You left out one for the pugs to pee on. :D
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,556
    Viking64 wrote: »
    My limit on speakers?

    Two.

    One left channel.

    One right channel.

    It's actually three. You left out one for the pugs to pee on. :D

    Actually 4.

    For me: A pair of 2.3TLs.

    For the pugs: One Bose to pee on and one Klipsch to **** on. :p

  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,428
    I find this topic is interesting as it highlights what is cost to a person.

    There are types of gear that you can purchase and it loses value, maintains or appreciates.

    My willingness to spend money depends on those factors.

    I would spend alot more on something that is near fully depreciated versus 1k on something that would depeeciate 75%

    While spending hypothetically let's say 5k is more up front that money could conceivably be recalled at a later date versus dissapearing in certain situations. Just my 2 cents.

    These guys spending 60k on speakers worth 25k 5 years later is... Insane to me! Absolutely bonkers
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 3,087
    edited January 19
    One of the most difficult lessons I’ve learned in this hobby is that the amount of money spent is NOT directly proportional to sound quality.

    Leaving aside for the moment that “sound quality” itself is a moving target from person to person, two brands in particular that are expensive and thus deemed “high quality” left me completely cold - B&W and Wilson Audio. Both brands -Wilson especially- are clearly “high quality”, but neither sound appealing to me. I was looking at a pair of Wilson Sasha speakers on the local classifieds for $6k. That’s a lot of money for me, so I traveled up to Wilson HQ (about 45 minute drive) and spent an afternoon listening to their speakers. They are beautiful, well built, and the folks at Wilson are clearly passionate. But I just didn’t like the sound - they lacked the “goose bump factor”… For me…. Same with B&W - I’ve owned them, and just not my thing. I’m not saying either is a “bad brand” mind you.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,019
    edited January 19
    Vintage (very vintage) field coil RCA drivers,RCA theater horn enclosures, and RCA multicell treble horns -- but I'd have to sell both kidneys, so that won't work.

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    That is the best sounding system I've experienced -- but it's the whole system, not just the loudspeakers; and the carefully designed and built space that they operate in is extremely important, too. Considering the whole shootin' match in toto, way, way, way out of my price range.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,710
    The most I've ever spent on a pair of speakers was $3K for a pair of Polk L800s and I don't imagine spending more than that. The next biggest spend was on a new pair of Magnepan 1.7i speakers which are an incredible deal until one considers that the equipment needed to get the best out of them can be expensive!

    I'm actually going in the opposite direction with speakers. I've been spending LESS on speakers as I've gotten older as my goals have changed. For example, I got a pair of Polk R100s recently because that was what met my requirements for use in a home gym.

    I have a pair of Wharfedale Lintons that I paid $1200 a pair for with the stands and have them in a smallish den. I could get a pair of Wharfedale Dovedales for $7500 to replace them. But, the Lintons have about 90 percent of the performance of the Dovedales and they fit the room better so I have no reason to spend that much for an incremental upgrade. Anyway, I really dig the smooth retro sound from the Lintons.

    It's also possible to get great sound from modestly priced bookshelf speakers these days like the Polk Reserve line.

    But, if someone has the disposable income to spend $20K on a new pair of speakers I'd encourage them to also spend the money necessary to buy the rest of the system's gear to make them perform as intended. That could easily be an additional $20K to $30K. Buying speakers isn't the end of the expenditure on an audio system. o:)
  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,218
    Given that I almost always buy speakers used, it’s very hard to set a number. But the number dictates the price, not the speaker. I have a very good habit of walkingof away from things that I can’t afford.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,710
    Given that I almost always buy speakers used, it’s very hard to set a number. But the number dictates the price, not the speaker. I have a very good habit of walking away from things that I can’t afford.

    Buying in the used market can be great! I've had a pair of JMlab Electras I got used for $2K in 2005. I think they were around $6K a pair when new when the original owner bought them around 2000. I used them as my main speakers from 2005 until around 2020. Got my use out of those! And, I still have them, although they're not in use right now. I figure a new pair from Focal that's somewhat equivalent in the Kanta line may be between $10K and $15K, although it's hard to make that assessment because Focal has improved their speakers with new drivers and technology over the years. There's no way I'd spend that kind of money on new speakers.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,543
    edited January 19
    No cap. However, I think one needs to have an idea of the overall system cost and match components to fit in that budget without anything being too lopsided. Used, used, used. Purchasing speakers new is a game for those with deep pockets and not many hobbies (or fools, possibly some crossover). That is, unless you have a wholesale connection that essentially avoids a majority of depreciation.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,065
    I have learned to just put some money away all year long, that way if something pops up, or it’s something I have been saving for, I can pull the trigger when it’s convenient, and doable..

    Also, none of us is taking any of this with us, so remember to live a little as well, I’m not saying break the bank, but enjoy the ride while you’re here..
  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,218
    edited January 19
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I have learned to just put some money away all year long, that way if something pops up, or it’s something I have been saving for, I can pull the trigger when it’s convenient, and doable..

    Also, none of us is taking any of this with us, so remember to live a little as well, I’m not saying break the bank, but enjoy the ride while you’re here..

    That’s pretty much my approach. Squirrel cash away all year… usually with something specific in mind… and then something comes up that’s a better buy.

    That’s how I got those speakers and amp recently.
    Analog: Hana ML > MoFi UltraDeck > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    Norma IPA-140 > Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
    Discogs
  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,183
    About 85dB is my limit. Close to OSHA specs to prevent hearing loss.
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