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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,164
    edited November 2025
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    If ya'll want to stop playing around with power conditioning and want to go all the way pick up one either of these....
    EQUI=TECH 20WQ, 15WQ or the 10WQ.... depending on how much amperage is needed.

    You're welcome.

    If I were to replace my P1000 this would be the only one on my list, Equi=Tech 2RQ, if I were to go with a portable piece.
    Although "portable" @ 72 lbs may be a dream at my age. Gonna need a dolly 😳
    Have had my eye on one of these for years but I just can't manage the price.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,336
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    4 pages of nut talk and no agreement? Par for the course here.
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,164
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    Already posted suggestions, what more info is needed?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,160
    edited November 2025
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    billbillw wrote: »
    4 pages of nut talk and no agreement? Par for the course here.

    Take a long walk off a short plank... You don't like the topic, then shut your piehole and stay out of the discussion.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

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  • VR3
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    Now now boys
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,336
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    billbillw wrote: »
    4 pages of nut talk and no agreement? Par for the course here.

    Take a long walk off a short plank... You don't like the topic, then shut your piehole and stay out of the discussion.

    I will post where/when I want. I was just pointing out the argumentative nature of this thread in "Basic Hookup/Wiring." None of this is basic hookup.
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  • VR3
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    The wiring flow is out to in right?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • jdjohn
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    All I will add is that I used an EMI meter to measure line noise from multiple outlets in my house, then measured again through 4 different power conditioners, including a PS Audio Stellar PowerPlant 3 Regenerator, and that one had the least effect in reducing line noise.

    Average reading from three wall outlets was 606. Readings from same outlets through conditioner sockets are shown below. All readings were done during the day, within just a few minutes.

    From best to worst:
    1. Puritan PSM156 Purifier - average <20
    2. Chang Lightspeed Powerline Filter CLS-6400 - average 133
    3. PS Audio PowerPlay IPC-9000 Conditioner - average 142
    4. PS Audio Stellar PowerPlant 3 Regenerator - average 155
    YMMV, but that would defy logic :)

    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,428
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    jdjohn wrote: »
    All I will add is that I used an EMI meter to measure line noise from multiple outlets in my house, then measured again through 4 different power conditioners, including a PS Audio Stellar PowerPlant 3 Regenerator, and that one had the least effect in reducing line noise.

    Average reading from three wall outlets was 606. Readings from same outlets through conditioner sockets are shown below. All readings were done during the day, within just a few minutes.

    From best to worst:
    1. Puritan PSM156 Purifier - average <20
    2. Chang Lightspeed Powerline Filter CLS-6400 - average 133
    3. PS Audio PowerPlay IPC-9000 Conditioner - average 142
    4. PS Audio Stellar PowerPlant 3 Regenerator - average 155
    YMMV, but that would defy logic :)

    Those are still sizable drops in EMI percentage wise from 606. 606 for household circuits seems pretty high? Dirty wall warts, led lighting and especially led dimmers cause mine to go up.

    My household emi is 3-400 normally. On my dedicated lines on the opposite 120 leg normally under 100. Out of the back of my fuman ref20I 40-50. I piggy back a 15 amp belkin conditioner from the furman for my really dirty but low draw power supplies and I've had the emi down to a steady 9 with an occasional 7 or 8 flashing.
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,164
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    billbillw wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    billbillw wrote: »
    4 pages of nut talk and no agreement? Par for the course here.

    Take a long walk off a short plank... You don't like the topic, then shut your piehole and stay out of the discussion.

    I will post where/when I want. I was just pointing out the argumentative nature of this thread in "Basic Hookup/Wiring." None of this is basic hookup.

    So you're butt-hurt cause this topic is being discussed in the "Basic Hookup/Wiring" category.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,336
    edited November 2025
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    skipshot12 wrote: »
    billbillw wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    billbillw wrote: »
    4 pages of nut talk and no agreement? Par for the course here.

    Take a long walk off a short plank... You don't like the topic, then shut your piehole and stay out of the discussion.

    I will post where/when I want. I was just pointing out the argumentative nature of this thread in "Basic Hookup/Wiring." None of this is basic hookup.

    So you're butt-hurt cause this topic is being discussed in the "Basic Hookup/Wiring" category.

    I'm not butt-hurt in the least. That seems to be the OP who seemed to be offended by my early comment yesterday, which wasn't even directed at him. I just find it humorous that practically every technical thread at this forum turns into a multi-page argument between the same players.
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,164
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    ^Gotcha
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,160
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    PS Audio P10 for 1700…. What do you guys think of that?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • skipshot12
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    That's a really good price, not as good as $800 for my P1000 but, still really good.

    If you're in the market that's a good buy.
    PS Audio, Equitech or Richard Gray's substations are the real deal.

    If you end up with the P10 I'd like to hear your impressions.... whether you hear or not hear a difference.

    Like I said earlier, we are really close to one of our main substations and am lucky to have exceptional stability and clean power.
    I cannot hear any difference in my power conditioning ventures in my system, not bitching just lucky.
    The only reason I'm getting rid of my PowerPlant.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,158
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    PS Audio P10 for 1700…. What do you guys think of that?

    Obviously, I’m partial to the piece in question…
    I’m never seen a better price. I paid 2800 for mine. I think it was two years old at the time. It’s works flawlessly for 10 years
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • skipshot12
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    Cannot go wrong at that price John.

    If you haven't seen it already here's a nice review of that P10....
    https://www.stereophile.com/content/ps-audio-perfectwave-p10-power-plant-ac-regenerator
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,164
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    I'm in for the P10...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,160
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    Well, no purchase made yet, as I scooped up a MiND 2 module to control the streaming/wifi duties and found a major improvement over streaming simply from the PC... That said, a Shunyata Hydra "Triton" V1 has come along for a very good price. The only thing I don't like is there is no 12v trigger option. It would be nice to be able to power up the Mcintosh and have the rest of the system come to life at the same time.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • skipshot12
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    If & when you land a conditioner or regenerator I'd like to hear your thoughts on what you hear or don't hear.

    I've done everything from dedicated circuits, with 10 gauge Cardas Audio wire to audiophile outlets to regeneration but, I have never heard a change.
    My thoughts on this are....
    1. I have great power quality living so close to our main substation.
    2. I don't have a highly resolving system.
    3. My olds arse ears.

    Tom (Treitz) purchased some of my PS Audio Noise Harvester's and he hears a difference in his system.
    I'm a believer in addressing the power quality does improve what one hears but, in my case no difference to me. I consider that a positive as to the quality of the power at our house.

    I am considering this... I'm at the end of our primary distribution feed to our house and going to contact Rocky Mountain Power to install a dedicated transformer for our house. The existing pole can be used for this construction so the cost would be materials and time.
    If it's not too crazy, that would be ideal.

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  • GlennDog
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    John, perhaps you are willing to dip your toe into this slightly dated PS Audio solution

    Best of luck

    and Merry CHRISTmas



    https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650217487-ps-perfectwave-power-plant-5-with-wire-world-cable/?utm_source=USAudioMart+list&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email+featured+ad&utm_campaign=email-featured-ad-click&utm_term=650217487
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,164
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    John,

    Would sell my PS Audio P1000 for $800.
    Regenerator/Balanced Power.
    Gone through @ PS Audio in Boulder CO last year. Original factory double box shipping container, two original owners manuals and will throw in my PS Audio Extreme Statement Power Cord.

    Shipping would be a mother, with the factory double box it weighs about 125 lbs!

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,077
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    I'm still using an old PS Audio...what looks like a power strip that spent a few years at the gym. Noticeable improvement over the monster junk I was using. Quiet and noise free background.

    Wasn't Running springs a brand everyone was wagging their tongues at a few moons ago ?
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • jdjohn
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    Jaguar Audio offers a 45-day trial on Puritan Audio products. I suggest trying a PSM156 for comparison. I feel like a broken record here upon other recommendations in this thread.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
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  • heiney9
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    jdjohn wrote: »
    Jaguar Audio offers a 45-day trial on Puritan Audio products. I suggest trying a PSM156 for comparison. I feel like a broken record here upon other recommendations in this thread.

    Yep, I keep saying the same thing. Really, really great product with a great demo window. The power cables are fantastic too. Among the most flexible I've ever used among other attributes.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • mikejedi0619
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    The AQ Garth Powell stuff is pretty solid imo. Or even the older Furman stuff which was designed by him. I own a AQ and a Furman and they work extremely well and have made both of systems better imo ;)
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  • GlennDog
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    you’ve narrowed your search to . . . ??
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • treitz3
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    If you are looking for a mint condition, Shunyata Everest 8000t. I have a friend that I trust who lives locally that has the rare black unit not listed yet. If you are interested, PM me. It's 2 years old, comes with original carton etc. If not, no worries. Just thought I'd throw it out there for ya' before it actually hits the marketplace.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • skipshot12
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    ^WOW, that's a healthy beast right there.
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