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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 3,265
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    “Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
  • treitz3
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    Believe it or not? That's better than many things I have seen.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • sucks2beme
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    We had some workers at my last house removing the popcorn ceiling finish.
    They looked a lot like this in the stairwell.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,562
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    ahh, popcorn ceilings... speaking of doing it wrong. :#
    Our house in California had 'em. :blush:
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,167
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    Popcorn ceiling & Terrazo floors.
    Those floors could split a skull in a new york minute.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,562
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    Yeah, but terrazo lasts forever, to a good approximation.
  • OleBoot
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    Still have a popcorn ceiling in our family room. I am a little confused as to what about them is quite so bad. Just fashion, I suppose. Never been a dedicated follower of fashion or hung out in Regent Street or Leicester Square longer than it took to queue for the cinema.
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  • billbillw
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    ^^
    The biggest issue for popcorn ceilings is that you can't clean them easily or repaint without scraping it off. I have it in most of my upstairs rooms to this day (house built in 2001). The kitchen especially needs to be scraped off and repainted smooth due to dust/grease residue over the stove area (yes, even with a microwave vent fan above). The great room needs it too because of poor seam work by the drywallers, and of course, 24 years of dust buildup, and soot from the previous owners using the fireplace often.
  • treitz3
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    Popcorn ceilings are sprayed very easily. Even if you have to use Kilz, it's pretty easy if you know what you are doing. You can even blade off (use a shield) if you have wallpaper or don't want to paint the walls at the same time. You will need to make either a custom corner blade or tape off some painters plastic to protect the corners. A typical room with a popcorn ceiling can be done rather quickly.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • motorstereo
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    I sprayed a few popcorn ceilings in the early 80's. A very messy job with lots of splatter coming back in your face and that hopper got really heavy holding it up shoulder high while walking around on stilts. But the contactors loved them as they didn't need to do a nice job mudding and taping and in some cases none at all. It hid a lot of irregularities and I could never understand the dislike for them if they're done properly. If it's not flaking off and they get nasty looking just paint them with a heavy nap roller
  • treitz3
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    The problem with a heavy nap roller, is (speaking of doing it wrong) many contractors will not prime the ceiling prior to applying the popcorn. As soon as the popcorn gets wet, it tends to delaminate from the sheetrock where there is no mud. While I can make a repair look like nothing ever happened, only a handful IME can actually do a repair that looks like it never happened. They usually stick out like a sore thumb and become a major eyesore.

    I personally hate popcorn, with one exception. My Grandad, who lived up in Gig Harbor WA, had a pretty killer layout with no ceilings that were horizontal. All of them were vaulted and at differing angles in an open concept, multi step down level house. Whoever built his house took a glitter gun and tastefully distributed small, silver colored glitter on top of the popcorn, while the paint was still wet. It had the coolest effect with certain lighting. You could be sitting on the couch or in the DR at night and slightly move your head, and it was like thousands of stars blinking on and off. They were bright enough to where you could actually see the reflections of the light emitted from the glitter reflected off of the lid of Grandma's grand piano. That is the only popcorn ceiling I have ever seen that seriously impressed me. Wicked cool.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • sucks2beme
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    Mostly it was a case of poorly taped/no tape. Cracks formed up all over.
    Had to be scraped to get fixed, so off it came. I think textured walls are
    A bad idea as well. So much easier to fix a flat wall. In North Texas it seems
    builders can't find someone who can do a flat wall. It was all about quick and
    cheap. Watching illegal tradesmen work in Texas was a real eye opener.
    Didn't matter how careful you were, you'd end up with contractors using them.
    Up here in Tennessee it's gotten almost as bad. They sent two guys out to roof
    my shed. They didn't have ladders. They stood on pallets. And they did a crappy
    Job. I refused to pay them. After a couple of weeks someone came out and
    Fixed it correctly. How does a business survive this operating model?
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,562
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    sucks2beme wrote: »
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    Up here in Tennessee it's gotten almost as bad. They sent two guys out to roof
    my shed. They didn't have ladders. They stood on pallets. And they did a crappy
    Job. I refused to pay them. After a couple of weeks someone came out and
    Fixed it correctly. How does a business survive this operating model?
    My guess is that the net profit on the jobs where the substandard work's accepted and paid for (more than) covers the occasional case that costs 'em more to do right.
    Not all that different than those (at least in the de minimus days) $100 DACs from Asia. The defect rate might be, I dunno, 20%, but if only one in 10 of those who purchased duds actually follows through and demands refund or replacement, the seller is still making money in a net fashion. :#


  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,562
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    Mind you... I like Flickr, but they do it wrong periodically, and sometimes more than occasionally.
    When they do, they throw up their bad panda grapic.
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    This image always weirds me out a little... but I offer it here (and now) with the wry thought that struck me this morning, after seeing this several times in the past hour or two...
    The bad panda girl's probably, like, 47 years old now...
    :#
    Sort of like the poor you've got mail! guy from AOL, may he rest in peace. He was from Glen Burnie, MD. B)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elwood_Edwards
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  • SCompRacer
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  • SCompRacer
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    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
  • treitz3
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    Good lawd, he just made a bomb.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • SCompRacer
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    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
  • treitz3
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    LOL.....well, she is a blonde.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 3,265
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    At least the bill won’t be too much…
    “Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 9,404
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    One part of me wants to say it's a staged photo. Then again..... :D
    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,562
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    Not McIntosh's finest hour.
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    Their interpretation of the Polk Audio Monitor Series Model 7, I suppose...
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    The Philips dome tweeter they used ... well, they've been around for a long time (Mac seemed to like Philips drivers)... but they aren't everybody's favorites.
    http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/WWDT.htm
    54814210658_dd0ba24756_b.jpgDSC_0990(2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    On the the other hand, if you were building a nice bespoke rack for your McCormick spice bottles, you could repurpose the grille badge(s).
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    http://www.roger-russell.com/speakers2.htm#xl10
  • SCompRacer
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  • CGTIII
    CGTIII Posts: 1,277
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    SCompRacer wrote: »
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    "The nice thing about standards is there are so many of them." :wink:
    Expect that there will be bumps in the road. Choose to not let them rattle you.

    Polk - Monitor 10As, SDA 2Bs, LSi9s, White RTi4s, S4s, M3s, various centers.
    Boston - CR7, CR6s, CR4s.
    Subs - M&K V4, M&K VX-7B, JBL SUB150P, Jamo Sub 250, and others.
    ​Thompson Adventures, Inc.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,562
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    SCompRacer wrote: »
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    so close...
    CGTIII wrote: »

    "The nice thing about standards is there are so many of them." :wink:
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    source: https://xkcd.com/927/

  • SCompRacer
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  • daddyjt
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    “Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn