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Apparently they STOPPED doing this in 2024, but I’m amazed that something like this ever got the green light…
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Is there a separate charge to use the air conditioned seats?
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Apparently they STOPPED doing this in 2024, but I’m amazed that something like this ever got the green light…

Volvo really pissed me off recently with similar nonsense.
First 4 years of Volvo Connected Services is "free", then it's $200 a year. I don't really care as I don't use it, like at all.
What they don't make clear, they buried the cars remote start behind the "Connected Services" paywall.
I let them know exactly what I thought about that, over their customer service chat in the app. They extended me another year of the service "for free".
I ended the chat with, "Talk to you next year, we can do this all over again". -
My son in law has a 2020 Toyota Tundra & his remote start stopped working after 1 year. I had a 2020 Tacoma that didn't have remote, key start which I liked. Last year in Aug I bought 2023 (last of 6cyl Tacoma) & it's now over 1 year old & it still works. I did research some & it appears after 1 year it's 8.00 a month. The only thing I can think of is I purchased a 10yr/100,000 Platinum warranty at 2000.00 plus dollarsRandy-Maine
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Could you imagine audio companies starting this trend?
Buy a reciever and after a year, the LFE and rear channels stop working until you subscribe to $8 a month to access again.
Buy a streamer and apps only work for a one year period....gotta dish out more dough in order for those apps to be seen again.
That would be a very quick way to lose a customer for life. I know, I wouldn't even buy a product that did something so asinine.
Now, I understand the offering of something like OnStar or XM Radio for one year. That's a seperate company/service. But for a remote start or seat heater? Stupidity redefined right there.
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it even gets worse. You start vehicle (4clicks with LOCK button) & as soon as you grab doorhandles it shuts off. Even using remote to unlock door. Theft safety I guess Then you have to start it again. Makes no sense. I don't use the remote start for that reason. Useless.Wait a cotton picking minute!
You buy a vehicle that has "features" or a "package" you paid for in the price of said vehicle. NOW one of those features only works after a said amount of time if you buy it again and again? That is a complete pile of horse💩!
What a SCAM!!
Randy-Maine
2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
by David WMG
Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
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Wait a cotton picking minute!
You buy a vehicle that has "features" or a "package" you paid for in the price of said vehicle. NOW one of those features only works after a said amount of time if you buy it again and again? That is a complete pile of horse💩!
What a SCAM!!
My favorite part of the chat with Volvo, when I asked if they seriously put a standard feature behind a paywall, the corporate response was:
“Correct, after 4 years remote start is an out of pocket experience”.
I responded with the fact that it’s nothing less than a shameful cash grab. That the only reason to put a standard feature like remote start behind that paywall was because essentially nobody would pay for the useless “connected services” otherwise.
I informed them that if this is the direction of Volvo, this will be my last one.
Then she found an offer “linked to my VIN” for another free year.
Next time I’m in the dealer, I’ll be letting them know that I’m actively dissuading anyone from purchasing a Volvo, until they course correct.
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speaking of you're doing it wrong...
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stellantis-ceo-carlos-tavares-resigns-192211706.html
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Upstatemax wrote: »Wait a cotton picking minute!
You buy a vehicle that has "features" or a "package" you paid for in the price of said vehicle. NOW one of those features only works after a said amount of time if you buy it again and again? That is a complete pile of horse💩!
What a SCAM!!
My favorite part of the chat with Volvo, when I asked if they seriously put a standard feature behind a paywall, the corporate response was:
“Correct, after 4 years remote start is an out of pocket experience”.
I responded with the fact that it’s nothing less than a shameful cash grab. That the only reason to put a standard feature like remote start behind that paywall was because essentially nobody would pay for the useless “connected services” otherwise.
I informed them that if this is the direction of Volvo, this will be my last one.
Then she found an offer “linked to my VIN” for another free year.
Next time I’m in the dealer, I’ll be letting them know that I’m actively dissuading anyone from purchasing a Volvo, until they course correct.
That's 100% bullshirt! Lifetime access or f off, at time of purchase. I'm not a frequent car buyer, but I will keep this in mind. -

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Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -

Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
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True, but it's akin to calling a soy burger meat. No matter how much it is explained, it still ain't meat and this ain't crab. Marketing BS cracks me up sometimes.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Just like somehow they get away with calling something that is fish, but isn’t Walleye, Walleye around here. Never have understood that one.
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Just like somehow they get away with calling something that is fish, but isn’t Walleye, Walleye around here. Never have understood that one.
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Along the same line as Tom's head-scratching grocery store sign, I saw this one last week and had to question it. The bin was empty so I didn't have a product to compare it to.

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Along the same line as Tom's head-scratching grocery store sign, I saw this one last week and had to question it. The bin was empty so I didn't have a product to compare it to.

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“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -

“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -

“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
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That reminds me of the one where the wife stated that a dashboard showed a stick figure of a man on a toilet....she couldn't figure out that it said -4 degrees.
Some people's kids...
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
That reminds me of the one where the wife stated that a dashboard showed a stick figure of a man on a toilet....she couldn't figure out that it said -4 degrees.
Some people's kids...
Tom
Or the one that said “I just can’t seem to get my tire pressures up to 100% on my dash monitor”…“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
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