Hurricane Milton

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  • Posts: 7,257
    edited October 2024

    Show me the source for your hypothetical supposition .🤔

    Hypothetical? Its not a hypothesis. It is fact dude. Do some studying on this planets geological and climate history. Most of the time within that 500 Million year graph above, the planet was not habitable for us, as a settled agricultural society, or post industrial society.
    This is a 24,000 year graph:
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    https://www.washington.edu/news/2021/11/10/new-method-shows-todays-warming-unprecedented-over-past-24000-years/
  • Posts: 4,633
    ^^ From that graph I *conclude* that Prehistoric humans were the biggest culprits in "global warming". Or. Maybe it is more complicated and we aren't looking at all the factors.

    My biggest concern is global deforestation and overfishing and pollution of the oceans because there is no way that is anything but a bad thing.
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  • Posts: 25,723
    edited October 2024
    I wonder if any of those models take into account the fact that Earth’s orbit around something called a ‘SUN”, is closer than it has been in 2500 years, or that geological activity such as massive earthquakes and a super volcano have altered the tilt of the earth by almost a full degree in the past 100 years.

    I suppose human activity caused all that too….
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  • Posts: 26,587
    edited October 2024
    My biggest concern is global deforestation and overfishing and pollution of the oceans because there is no way that is anything but a bad thing.
    This is concerning to myself as well..
  • Posts: 19,772
    I'm so glad to come here and read about Hurricane Milton.

    This debate belongs in a seperate thread (without getting political).

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • billbillw wrote: »

    Hypothetical? Its not a hypothesis. It is fact dude. Do some studying on this planets geological and climate history. Most of the time within that 500 Million year graph above, the planet was not habitable for us, as a settled agricultural society, or post industrial society.
    This is a 24,000 year graph:
    35dop7r97hg4.jpg
    https:/
    www.washington.edu/news/2021/11/10/new-
    method-shows-todays-
    warming-unprecedented-
    over-past-24000-years/

    So....still waiting for proof of your hypothetical supposition 🤔

    Sal Palooza
  • Posts: 7,257
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I'm so glad to come here and read about Hurricane Milton.

    This debate belongs in a seperate thread (without getting political).

    Tom

    I agree. There is no sense trying to give facts to people who are living in a cloud of misinformation.
  • Posts: 4,633
    edited October 2024
    billbillw wrote: »

    I agree. There is no sense trying to give facts to people who are living in a cloud of misinformation.

    Oh it's alarming no doubt. The graph really doesn't do it justice because the slope is really 4x steeper than shown, for recent times. They made it look better than it is (less steep relatively speaking) because the time scale is expanded to the left of the break in the x axis.

    Now back to our regularly scheduled programming......
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  • Posts: 4,633
    62 mph gusts

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    George / NJ

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  • Posts: 5,193
    Now that we have fixed Global warming,
    lets tackle ABore shut and re LigION. :)
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  • Posts: 11,169
    Just looked at the trajectory, disneyjoe whom i visited is pretty much in the middle. If he still lives there. This was about 10yrs ago. I hope everyone stays safe.
  • Posts: 4,633

    Oh it's alarming no doubt. The graph really doesn't do it justice because the slope is really 4x steeper than shown, for recent times. They made it look better than it is (less steep relatively speaking) because the time scale is expanded to the left of the break in the x axis.

    Now back to our regularly scheduled programming......

    Correction. 8 Celsius Degrees per 10,000 years coming out of the ice age (?) vs 1.3 Celsius Degrees per 100 years in recorded recent times, actually is more like 16x more rapid temp. increase recently, regardless of the cause.

    Milton now:

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  • Posts: 19,772
    Willow wrote: »
    disneyjoe

    Wow. Blast from the past! I wonder if @Fishbones is still in the area.

    There are many members from that area that will be affected. James and Dave Sauter.....and crew (for those who know them) will be taking a direct hit. Although, knowing Dave? He's up in NY right now.

    My FIL is in St. Pete, in a new hurricane resistant building on the 6th floor. Just got off the phone with him and he still has power and he states that is is just a lot of rain right now. He's more worried about the debris fields from Helene that weren't picked up than himself. He's hoping he doesn't lose power (as of this post 247K reported power outages in FL) but I think that hope will be lost soon. Time will tell.

    Tom
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  • Posts: 4,633
    Almost making landfall now. 94mph gusts sheesh.

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    George / NJ

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  • Posts: 19,772
    3 posts in a row? "Triggered"?

    I could be wrong, I could be correct. I don't care. Something smells though....

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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    Kex wrote: »
    You are somewhat off topic @treitz3 and I am definitely not triggered. The only smells must be local to you. I suggest blaming it on the dog. 🤷‍♂️

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    My Son sent me this pic earlier this afternoon. Tornado touch down in Wellington, Palm Beach County, about 8 miles from his place.
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    Pic of idiot in Florida driving too fast through standing water.
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    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Meantime, Sometimes sailors are crazy!
    A one-legged Florida man who has gained notoriety for deciding to ride out Hurricane Milton from inside his sailboat has opened up about his wild night at sea.

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13944155/Lieutenant-Dan-Joseph-Malinowski-emerges-hurricane-Milton-boat-refusing-leave.html?ico=related-replace

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    Show me the source for your hypothetical supposition .🤔

    I think before each dip in temps, EV's were mandated and aerosols were banned.....:)

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    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Global-mean-temperatures-over-the-last-500-000-years-11_fig3_356606430
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    George / NJ

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  • Posts: 7,257
    edited October 2024
    The storm ended up tracking further south and Tampa didn't get the devastation that could have happened, but the shredded dome at Tropicana field makes a good visual. DeSantis was on the air a couple hours ago and they were generally saying the state avoided a worst case scenario.
    I'm sure there is a huge amount of damage, but so far, it doesn't look like any communities were completely wiped from the map like with Helene, or what Michael did with Mexico Beach.
  • Posts: 5,193
    All good with my friends and family. My sister is actually headed to St. Pete area...
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  • Posts: 5,193
    The calm after the storm;
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    A couple out walking their dog.
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  • Posts: 19,772
    So far, I have heard from all my friends but the Sauter's. All of them are without power. Every one of them, from the West coast to the East coast of Florida.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Posts: 11,473
    My Stepdaughter lost power at 9:00pm last night. Still doesn't have power. Some trees in the roads but there's guys sawing them up and making way fast.

    Shea said there was still some warm water left in the heater.

    The rising water still had a way to go before it breached her floor level.

    They barbecued hot-dogs, hamburgers and pork-chops for lunch. I think a pot of Baked beans was a side.

    Her and her neighbors dread the cold showers to come if that happens.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

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    --Mark Twain.
  • Posts: 19,772
    Well, I drove down I-77 this morning and must have passed about 70 utility trucks headed that way. Help is coming. Plus, DeSantis prestaged IIRC 700 or so crews just from his state around the storm's path.

    Madeira Beach got hit hard.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Posts: 7,257
    Manasota Key and Grove City also pretty bad.
    https://youtu.be/QDSPD1rX8fg
    My sister's condo is a close to this, but away from shore by several miles. Their place is OK.
    I'm seeing more damage from the 30+ tornados. Dang, those did some damage inland.
  • Posts: 7,667
    All good here. Did not lose power or internet. Yes, I evac to Jacksonville but check my Ring device so did not lose contact with it from Jacksonville.
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.

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