New Marantz Reference gear
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15K is a lot, especially for Class D amplification but for a no fuss single box solution I bet it ticks a lot of boxes for a lot of people. Many folks don’t want to go separates and while you can buy more with less, convenience means something.
I personally love Marantz’s “house sound” and I feel like Marantz is easy to use with picky speakers.
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Betcha the Apollon NCX 500ST ( Hypex class D, 380w 8ohm ) sounds just as good , if not better for literally 1/10 the price at $1400 ….
BkPS Audio S300 , WiiM Ultra , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk SuperCharged Songtowers , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 48” - BEDROOM
B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL
Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Ascend Acoustics ELX Ribbon Towers , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN system
Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sony 65” TV - PATIO -
Betcha the Apollon NCX 500ST ( Hypex class D, 380w 8ohm ) sounds just as good , if not better for literally 1/10 the price at $1400 ….
Bk
You seem to have the mistaken belief that the only thing affecting the sonic signature of a class D amp is the amp module.Political Correctness'.........defined
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You seem to have the mistaken belief that the only thing affecting the sonic signature of a class D amp is the amp module.
Have I irritated you somehow , as you seem to only be argumentative towards my thoughts on this matter rather than anyone else’s ?
Referring to both of your responses to me , I don’t know how you have deduced what you think my beliefs are based on what I’ve said - as my responses were rather generic and non-specific as my thoughts are that this class D amp probably doesn’t offer a $13,600 sonic premium over many other less costly class D amps that are properly designed and executed . And , if you look at my sig , I’m not exactly a neophyte.
Please take a few moments and educate me on what makes this class D amp’s sonic signature special to justify a $15,000 price tag - just it’s sonic signature, not it’s looks , inputs , weight , name or anything else - because that’s what I’m talking about - it’s sonic signature.
If it was class A , or A/B I’d be more receptive as class D amp modules are relatively inexpensive and “commodity” priced vs class A , A/B amplification.
Bk
Post edited by gyosa onPS Audio S300 , WiiM Ultra , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk SuperCharged Songtowers , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 48” - BEDROOM
B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL
Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Ascend Acoustics ELX Ribbon Towers , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN system
Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sony 65” TV - PATIO -
Betcha the Apollon NCX 500ST ( Hypex class D, 380w 8ohm ) sounds just as good , if not better for literally 1/10 the price at $1400 ….
Bk
Have you heard either of them?The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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The Apollon , yes. It will drive any speaker you throw at it with gobs and gobs of power and nil distortion at $1400…. And yes , it sounds good. Great actually. It is a “properly executed “ class D design.
The Marantz , obviously no. It’s brand new.
Have you ?
I can tell you this , I’ve owned my ex-442 for 30+ years (recently serviced), the A21 for several , as well as the S300 (class D) , and there is no way I could say one is “better” than the other when mixed in any possible combination with any of my equipment- I’ve tried all combinations- and my gear doesn’t exactly “suck”.
One may sound a tad “different” than the other , not better - it’s subjective.
Even the 25w integrated Dayens Ampino , that was karma’d to me , drove my Polk 1c’s and Salk’s with ease to moderate levels and sounded fantastic - with no complaints regarding its sound quality.
I can also say this , having owned many nice to upper end AVR’s over 40+ years - they suck. They all suck. Their only place , for me , would be as a compromise in a home theater set up . I would never , ever use one for a serious 2ch setup .
Bknooshinjohn wrote: »
Have you heard either of them?
Post edited by gyosa onPS Audio S300 , WiiM Ultra , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk SuperCharged Songtowers , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 48” - BEDROOM
B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL
Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Ascend Acoustics ELX Ribbon Towers , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN system
Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sony 65” TV - PATIO -
@gyosa some bold statements and generalities you make. Why not listen before passing judgement?2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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Listen ?
Sure , ok . Given the opportunity I will.
I was merely stating I doubt at $15k it offers a sonic value to justify its price relative to less costly class D amplification. That’s all . What’s bold about that ?
It appears that others have reservations as well.
Moot point , it’s not an object of purchase consideration for me.
Bk@gyosa some bold statements and generalities you make. Why not listen before passing judgement?
Post edited by gyosa onPS Audio S300 , WiiM Ultra , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk SuperCharged Songtowers , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 48” - BEDROOM
B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL
Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Ascend Acoustics ELX Ribbon Towers , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN system
Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sony 65” TV - PATIO -
That only addresses one item within your response(s). Enjoy what you got…2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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Betcha the Apollon NCX 500ST ( Hypex class D, 380w 8ohm ) sounds just as good , if not better for literally 1/10 the price at $1400 ….
Bk
I might tend to agree, but that Apollon isn't an integrated. Clearly you would need to add a decently high end preamp that would at least double the cost. Clearly that is still a fraction of the Marantz.
This new Marantz is probably a fine sounding unit. They have never been a value leader. Worth $15k? Not for me. Value oriented buyers would always find an alternative, but they probably will sell all that are produced.
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I'm interested. At $15K I'm not a buyer. But I'd love to hear it.Analog: Hana ML > MoFi UltraDeck > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
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I'd be curious what a diy version would cost.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
