New Marantz Reference gear

F1nut
F1nut Posts: 50,494
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,220
    edited August 29
    I like, but ouch $15,000.00

    75lbs!! B) $200.00 a lb..
  • gyosa
    gyosa Posts: 748
    edited August 29
    15k for a Purifi based class D amp that most likely will not outperform anyone of a number of other class D amps at , literally , a fraction of the price.

    No thanks

    Bk
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    gyosa wrote: »
    15k for a Purifi based class D amp that most likely will not outperform anyone of a number of other class D amps at , literally , a fraction of the price.

    No thanks

    Bk

    That's like saying all class A/B amps sound the same.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,372
    edited August 29
    Nice that you can see through the top cover to show off its beautiful interior.
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    Stan

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    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,398
    Yeah, I saw this earlier today but, 15K, later.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    Lol.

    15k for class d.

    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    Yeah, I'll pass.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,763
    edited August 30
    The class D boards are the STK modules of the 2020s. :)

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    a cheap Technics SA-80
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    a less cheap Yamaha CR-840

    In fairness -- the STK modules could be found in some fairly nice, and quite expensive equipment of their era... but they were still junk.
    I actually would never claim that, e.g., the Hypex amplifier boards are junk, but they are commodity products... which seems to strike at the heart of the high end.
    Nelson Pass, bless his heart, will probably still be designing products with two or three transistors in 'em -- and that will still sound good.
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    (an Amp Camp Amp as re-envisioned by our own @All212 :) )

    PS Ralph Karsten of AtmaSphere is building and selling a class D amp that's all in-house. Not inexpensively, but... I wouldn't bet against 'em. :)

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,391
    I will wait to see the Panther rating before I buy one…
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    I just don't know who buys this gear.

    My entire system, less the speakers was less then this integrated
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    VR3 wrote: »
    I just don't know who buys this gear.

    My entire system, less the speakers was less then this integrated

    Dude there are so many Uber rich people in the world. Many of them live in Indo-Asia. That's why there are so many specialty shops there...

    But I still get your point. Everything including my speakers cost way less than this integrated, and basically everyone I know irl things I'm nuts for spending so much on audio gear!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    I understand there's rich people in the world.

    I am confident for 15k I could build an entire system that would smoke the system built around this at 10 times the cost in new gear.

    No idea how this industry will be around once people my age are in their 60s
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,411
    VR3 wrote: »
    No idea how this industry will be around once people my age are in their 60s

    Brain chip......

  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    VR3 wrote: »
    I understand there's rich people in the world.

    I am confident for 15k I could build an entire system that would smoke the system built around this at 10 times the cost in new gear.

    No idea how this industry will be around once people my age are in their 60s

    I don't think your considering how rich people think/operate. You and I research, look for deals, buy and sell, flip gear to put the money into better gear, etc. It takes time and mental energy. Rich people don't mess with any of that crap. And they buy as much for status as anything else. I mean, if it's easier for them to spend $150 on a system than it is for us to spend $15, why not get what appears to be the coolest new thing?

    I am far from rich but as work and family demands increase and I get a little older and more tired, I am less inclined to spend as much time as I used to getting the best possible deal. If I was filthy rich? Yea I would probably just buy some really sweet new gear and be done with it...
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    Game Room 5.1.4:
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    Bedroom 2.1
    Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,741
    edited August 30
    I'd be surprised if that $15K integrated sounds any better than my Wyred4Sound combination that was 1/10th the price on the used market. Similar specs and capabilities. Even at original retail, the W4S combo would be less than 1/4th the price. If you happened to have a Wyred preamp with the Stage 2 upgrade, then it would be lights out better (IMO).
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    "Better" is subjective.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,741
    Clipdat wrote: »
    "Better" is subjective.

    Of course...edited to show opinion based :D
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    Getting big into tube amps this year has taught me that specifications don't have much influence on how something sounds.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    Your sinad is strong!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    But my testosterone level is weak.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,763
    edited August 30
    I will wait to see the Panther rating before I buy one…

    The chatter on ASR, FWIW is about what one would expect -- "it should perform [measure] quite well, but it's way overpriced." [EDIT: just to be clear, that's not really a quotation -- more of a paraphrase] There's also a sense that "marantz" (i.e., whatever that brand name means nowadays) will probably add some flavor (coloration) to the sound of the amp modules to help justify the price.
    Folks did allow that it is attractive & looks to be sturdily made. :)
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    Well thank you so much for bringing a little bit of their forum to ours, I really appreciate that.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,763
    I am here for you guys.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,047
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    VR3 wrote: »
    I understand there's rich people in the world.

    I am confident for 15k I could build an entire system that would smoke the system built around this at 10 times the cost in new gear.

    No idea how this industry will be around once people my age are in their 60s

    I don't think your considering how rich people think/operate. .

    Well, it does look cool as hell, so there you go. Aesthetics are everything with some people.
  • BlueBirdMusic
    BlueBirdMusic Posts: 2,267
    edited August 31
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,476
    edited August 31
    Seems to be an effort aimed at people who want to go to a B&W dealer and get a whole system there. Having Marantz and B&W under the same corporate ownership makes that easier. I wouldn't be surprised if the designers at Marantz and B&W voiced these together. That Model 10 amp will most likely be sold to customers who also buy the SACD player and network streamer. Marantz might need to up their game with a better turntable because all they've got now sitting next to the Model 10 is an inexpensive $1799 one.

    Sure the Model 10 is relatively expensive, but Marantz also makes good products way down the price line too. The price difference between the older PM10 integrated, which I thought was high, and the Model 10 is significant. The extra bling Marantz put into the Model 10 casework indicates that it's a product designed and intended to be seen to impress people rather than be hidden in a cabinet. It's a statement.

    Given the simplicity and lack of a built in DAC someone could be happily using a Model 10 with their B&W speakers for the next 20 years. :)
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,391
    Marantz and Bowers are owned by the very same folks that know not what to do with Polk…
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,175
    I just checked the website.

    Marantz

    The Model 10 is available exclusively in store (makes sense), so I checked which stores. Many of them are listed as a “Best Buy Premium Design Center”. 😳

    Would you really buy $15,000 gear, plus what comes along with it — guessing a total budget that might be $30,000 or more when all is said and done — from the Geek Squad?! 😬

    Alea jacta est!
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    Austin and Dallas have numerous outlets that aren't Best Buy.
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra

    Bedroom 2.1
    Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,476
    I haven't been inside what used to be branded as the Magnolia section of some Best Buy stores for a long time but they used to have 800 Series B&W speakers on the floor for demo in the one I went to. They looked like they were collecting dust but they were the most expensive things there. No way would the Nautilus speakers be kept on the floor there. But they also had a good selection of McIntosh gear collecting dust. If I was in the market I wouldn't head to Best Buy anyway, but there are a few high end brick and mortar stores in my area too that carry the full lines of high end gear.