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Our dead brained CA Governor that is pushing so hard to ban everything gas and go all electric told all those with EV's over this past summer not charge their cars due to the stress on the grid, it can't handle it. I cannot make this **** up.
Just wait until all the vehicles are EV, whole neighborhoods will be dark.
Dude the government of Alberta is putting out radio ads urging people to protest our federal government's attempts at going all electric because our entire electrical grid would literally collapse (literally as in, it will genuinely completely fail to support the load and demand).
We do not have the infrastructure to support the electrical demand needed by a green economy. We're going to be using so much more power per house when you consider that most people, on average, would have 2 cars and that would genuinely DOUBLE residential power draw.
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Chris:Dude the government of Alberta is putting out radio ads urging people to protest our federal government's attempts at going all electric because our entire electrical grid would literally collapse (literally as in, it will genuinely completely fail to support the load and demand).
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Also, Chris:I also hate the overuse of the word literally. It's used so much that 'literally' no longer means what it actually does. It's so stupid. Everything is literal.
"That's literally insane" and "That's literally insane" mean two entirely different things.
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Oh, on topic, tag-teaming from @msg's post earlier -- the battery capacity of the big EVs is mind-boggling. The new (9000 lb, IIRC) Cadillac Lyriq (where did these people learn to spell?) has a 102 kilowatt-hour battery, e.g.
1) That's a lot of juice.
2) If anything goes wrong, that's a lot of energy to power... something.
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Chris:Dude the government of Alberta is putting out radio ads urging people to protest our federal government's attempts at going all electric because our entire electrical grid would literally collapse (literally as in, it will genuinely completely fail to support the load and demand).
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Also, Chris:I also hate the overuse of the word literally. It's used so much that 'literally' no longer means what it actually does. It's so stupid. Everything is literal.
"That's literally insane" and "That's literally insane" mean two entirely different things.
No I genuinely meant literally as in its proper English definition. The electrical grid would in fact completely fail to support all of the 'green' energy demands. -
Chris:Dude the government of Alberta is putting out radio ads urging people to protest our federal government's attempts at going all electric because our entire electrical grid would literally collapse (literally as in, it will genuinely completely fail to support the load and demand).
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Also, Chris:I also hate the overuse of the word literally. It's used so much that 'literally' no longer means what it actually does. It's so stupid. Everything is literal.
"That's literally insane" and "That's literally insane" mean two entirely different things.
No I genuinely meant literally as in its proper English definition. The electrical grid would in fact completely fail to support all of the 'green' energy demands.
You said that the electrical grid would "literally collapse". For it to be literal, either all of the power lines would fall to the ground or the molecules of everything in the power grid would have to collapse into a smaller mass.
Otherwise "collapse" would be metaphorical and therefore, not literal. -
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I had to do some quick reading for context...mhardy6647 wrote: »Oh, on topic, tag-teaming from @msg's post earlier -- the battery capacity of the big EVs is mind-boggling. The new (9000 lb, IIRC) Cadillac Lyriq (where did these people learn to spell?) has a 102 kilowatt-hour battery, e.g.
1) That's a lot of juice.
2) If anything goes wrong, that's a lot of energy to power... something.Apparently the average US home uses 29kWh a day?
Also, at 9,000lbs., I'd have to get all new jack stands for working on it, probably a new jack, too, and there's just no way I'm doing that.
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yes, 100 kW-hr is a lot of energy.
according to the EPA (according to wiki-p
) the equivalence of 1 gallon of gasoline in electrical energy is 33.7 kW-hr
Now, that's a little abstruse, because it's meant to account for the efficiency differences between electrical motors (quite efficient) vs. internal combustion reciprocating engines (not so efficient) -- but it'll get ya in the ballpark.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent
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Chris:Dude the government of Alberta is putting out radio ads urging people to protest our federal government's attempts at going all electric because our entire electrical grid would literally collapse (literally as in, it will genuinely completely fail to support the load and demand).
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Also, Chris:I also hate the overuse of the word literally. It's used so much that 'literally' no longer means what it actually does. It's so stupid. Everything is literal.
"That's literally insane" and "That's literally insane" mean two entirely different things.
No I genuinely meant literally as in its proper English definition. The electrical grid would in fact completely fail to support all of the 'green' energy demands.
You said that the electrical grid would "literally collapse". For it to be literal, either all of the power lines would fall to the ground or the molecules of everything in the power grid would have to collapse into a smaller mass.
Otherwise "collapse" would be metaphorical and therefore, not literal.
Good point, you win.
I used the wrong "collapse"
Could I argue that too much current means melting wires which means collapsing grid? No? Okay I'll show myself out.
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No? Okay I'll show myself out.
FINALLY! That is literally the wisest thing you've said on this forum!
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As of late, I have witnessed more Tesla's on tow-trucks.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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Big surprise...no demand.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/ford-gm-mercedes-come-clean-on-ev-demand-weaknessPolitical Correctness'.........defined
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Another interesting read.
https://www.texaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023-10-TrueCostofEVs-BennettIsaac.pdf?fbclid=IwAR25cshS74OfIAs_BCJ5BSwGjuGOHW5RWYgLX9ekBNi4DXfGe2pQiOxQpdkGustard X26 Pro DAC
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And this actor playing a native American was actually Italian.
Kind of fits the thread perfectly."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
What about when they start taxing electricity to charge EV's?
They hold a temporary advantage, mostly based on not being "road" taxed the way gasoline is. Imagine if they ever catch on, the government will levy huge taxes.
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The lunacy is self-explanatory.
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What about when they start taxing electricity to charge EV's?
They hold a temporary advantage, mostly based on not being "road" taxed the way gasoline is. Imagine if they ever catch on, the government will levy huge taxes.
It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.
The plan is to probably tax gasoline more and more to make up for the tax deficit that electric vehicles pose. -
What about when they start taxing electricity to charge EV's?
They hold a temporary advantage, mostly based on not being "road" taxed the way gasoline is. Imagine if they ever catch on, the government will levy huge taxes.
It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.
The plan is to probably tax gasoline more and more to make up for the tax deficit that electric vehicles pose.
Yeah, and *then* find a way to tax EV increasingly once all the gas vehicles are forced off the road. Sail driven cars will be the next wave.
There will be subsidies for sailcloth, but only sailcloth made from MJ plants from select plantations after it's fully legalized when all the same players are positioned to profit.
Electricity is the devil. Wind is the future.
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Your 15 minute cities will make EVs obsolete.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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What about when they start taxing electricity to charge EV's?
They hold a temporary advantage, mostly based on not being "road" taxed the way gasoline is. Imagine if they ever catch on, the government will levy huge taxes.
It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.
The plan is to probably tax gasoline more and more to make up for the tax deficit that electric vehicles pose.
Yeah, and *then* find a way to tax EV increasingly once all the gas vehicles are forced off the road. Sail driven cars will be the next wave.
There will be subsidies for sailcloth, but only sailcloth made from MJ plants from select plantations after it's fully legalized when all the same players are positioned to profit.
Electricity is the devil. Wind is the future.
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lolWhat about when they start taxing electricity to charge EV's?
They hold a temporary advantage, mostly based on not being "road" taxed the way gasoline is. Imagine if they ever catch on, the government will levy huge taxes.
It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.
The plan is to probably tax gasoline more and more to make up for the tax deficit that electric vehicles pose.
Yeah, and *then* find a way to tax EV increasingly once all the gas vehicles are forced off the road. Sail driven cars will be the next wave.
There will be subsidies for sailcloth, but only sailcloth made from MJ plants from select plantations after it's fully legalized when all the same players are positioned to profit.
Electricity is the devil. Wind is the future.
In that case, my gastrointestinal system has discovered time travel.
"When this baby hits 88mph, you're gonna see some serious..."I disabled signatures. -
What about when they start taxing electricity to charge EV's?
They hold a temporary advantage, mostly based on not being "road" taxed the way gasoline is. Imagine if they ever catch on, the government will levy huge taxes.
It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.
The plan is to probably tax gasoline more and more to make up for the tax deficit that electric vehicles pose.
As I stated earlier in this thread, they already charge ev's and hybrids in Tennessee an
Upfront fee every year to register. It computes out to about the cost of an average gas
Vehicle's gas tax for driving 15k miles. Look to more states to follow. Add to it how fast
the increased weight eats up tires. Disposal fees for the battery packs are coming.
That's going to cost $$. Right now our rich uncle is spending billions to prop up the
Recycling industry.
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What about when they start taxing electricity to charge EV's?
They hold a temporary advantage, mostly based on not being "road" taxed the way gasoline is. Imagine if they ever catch on, the government will levy huge taxes.
It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.
The plan is to probably tax gasoline more and more to make up for the tax deficit that electric vehicles pose.
Yeah, and *then* find a way to tax EV increasingly once all the gas vehicles are forced off the road. Sail driven cars will be the next wave.
There will be subsidies for sailcloth, but only sailcloth made from MJ plants from select plantations after it's fully legalized when all the same players are positioned to profit.
Electricity is the devil. Wind is the future.
Yes, and China would corner the market on sailcloth, so nothing would change as far as suppliers.
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It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.[/quote]
That would be called a modern day mouse trap, and for all intents and purposes, that design still works.
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It is a semi-false economy, based on them pushing them and no taxes as of now.
That would be called a modern day mouse trap, and for all intents and purposes, that design still works.
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Also you have to take in consideration the cost of everything that is made from the leftovers from refining, how much is that stuff going to cost if no combustion engines. -
Apparently some people report getting headaches in their EVs likely due to the mass amounts of energy and emfs
