LSIM series vs Reserve

mantis
mantis Posts: 16,259
Hello all,
I never got to hear the LSIM series speakers as a system . I only got to hear the LSIM 703 book shelf speaker and I thought it was very good sounding. I wonder how they would stand up to the new Reserve series coming out in terms of pure sound quality.

The Reserve has a better Tweeter which is the same one used in the Legend Line. From what I learned it's a revamped model from the LSIM series with improvements. The Drivers are also improved with using the Legend models. So technically speaking they should out perform the LSIM speakers.
The LSIM however have a pretty nice cabinet. I like the Gloss Black Ebony I think it was called. It's damn nice.
Dan
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 6,561
    Side question real quick - Has it been confirmed that the drivers and tweeters in the Reserve are the exact same as those used in the Legend? They do look like them.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 3,156
    From the many reviews I've seen and heard online so far it appears to me that the Reserve and Legend speakers have a more open/sharper/tighter sound compared to the LSiM line. The LSiMs I have are the opposite of bright which is why I like them. I don't get the impression that the new lines are bright at all, just a bit more in that direction than the older speakers. Polk also got rid of the racetrack woofers in the bigger speakers and made some improvements in bass porting and midrange driver designs. Furniture grade cabinets are for the Legend line now.
    1. Polk L800 + L900, L400, LSiM-703 x4; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz AV8805A processor; Parasound A31; Outlaw 7000X; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Director 4.7; MIT S2 cables
    2. Magnepan 1.7i or JM Lab 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 SE+ preamp and Parasound JC5 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Marantz SA8004 SACD; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio P500; MIT S1 Cables
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,259
    msg wrote: »
    Side question real quick - Has it been confirmed that the drivers and tweeters in the Reserve are the exact same as those used in the Legend? They do look like them.

    Yes is has. If your interested you should watch this video, it's excellent and in the format of Product training. I miss going to these things.
    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,259
    Some really good take aways from this video.

    I'm real interested in exploring the entire line. The new X Port and Enhanced Power port is really interesting.
    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,259
    Emlyn wrote: »
    From the many reviews I've seen and heard online so far it appears to me that the Reserve and Legend speakers have a more open/sharper/tighter sound compared to the LSiM line. The LSiMs I have are the opposite of bright which is why I like them. I don't get the impression that the new lines are bright at all, just a bit more in that direction than the older speakers. Polk also got rid of the racetrack woofers in the bigger speakers and made some improvements in bass porting and midrange driver designs. Furniture grade cabinets are for the Legend line now.
    I get the decision to go with a Vinyl over a Veneer which saves cost but I just hope they don't look CHEAP. It's the ONLY thing so far I don't like about the line. This line is almost complete and more complete than the Legend and LSIM line was. Using Bi Polar surrounds today doesn't make much sense. It hasn't made sense since Dolby Pro Logic. Since Dolby Digital and on Mono Pole designed surrounds are where it's at. The new R350 Center Channel which is actually a L C R is the most intriguing speaker in the entire line. I'm damn near ready to pull the trigger on 5 of them.
    Dan
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  • smglbrth
    smglbrth Posts: 1,312
    They aren't in stock anywhere yet that I see. Probably stuck at anchor off California in shipping containers...
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 3,156
    Music Direct is showing all of the Reserve lineup in stock, at least for the black finish, and ready to ship next day:

    https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers/Polk-Audio-Reserve-R700-Tower-Speakers

    Last I looked at Crutchfield they're still showing pre-order ship date unknown.
    1. Polk L800 + L900, L400, LSiM-703 x4; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz AV8805A processor; Parasound A31; Outlaw 7000X; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Director 4.7; MIT S2 cables
    2. Magnepan 1.7i or JM Lab 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 SE+ preamp and Parasound JC5 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Marantz SA8004 SACD; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio P500; MIT S1 Cables
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 4,877
    mantis wrote: »
    msg wrote: »
    Side question real quick - Has it been confirmed that the drivers and tweeters in the Reserve are the exact same as those used in the Legend? They do look like them.

    Yes is has. If your interested you should watch this video, it's excellent and in the format of Product training. I miss going to these things.

    I didn’t watch this video yet but one I watched said the cones were the same, not the driver.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 3,156
    I have seen a couple of the Sound United chats where they make the point that they took the tweeters and mid bass drivers from the Legend line but the woofers are different. The use of the same drivers in both lines seems to be a point they are marketing the Reserve line on.
    1. Polk L800 + L900, L400, LSiM-703 x4; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz AV8805A processor; Parasound A31; Outlaw 7000X; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Director 4.7; MIT S2 cables
    2. Magnepan 1.7i or JM Lab 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 SE+ preamp and Parasound JC5 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Marantz SA8004 SACD; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio P500; MIT S1 Cables
  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,383
    Unless you need them now, I'd wait a year for the shipping and inventories to mellow out. For me to get new speakers they would have to be much better sounding and looking than My 705's. Oh and they would need to come in at the same price point.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 3,156
    mrloren wrote: »
    Unless you need them now, I'd wait a year for the shipping and inventories to mellow out. For me to get new speakers they would have to be much better sounding and looking than My 705's. Oh and they would need to come in at the same price point.

    Even a couple of the guys from Polk on the chats are still using their LSiM 703s. The LSiMs didn't become obsolete. :)
    1. Polk L800 + L900, L400, LSiM-703 x4; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz AV8805A processor; Parasound A31; Outlaw 7000X; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Director 4.7; MIT S2 cables
    2. Magnepan 1.7i or JM Lab 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 SE+ preamp and Parasound JC5 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Marantz SA8004 SACD; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio P500; MIT S1 Cables
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 5,622
    Sean at Zero Fidelity did a review on one of the Reserve's and he likes them.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 6,561
    Just one? Couldn't have imaged very well.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,259
    msg wrote: »
    Just one? Couldn't have imaged very well.
    That's the thing with this new line, they imagine so well you only need one.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 4,510
    The 703, with the right gear behind them, is a very, very good speaker. Incredibly hard to beat at its current price.
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