Scary virus outbreak in China
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How Much more can he say about his Hello Kitty boombox?
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Soooo....I work for a very large healthcare company. We have thousands of doctors on staff. I just got out of a meeting about an hour ago with a bunch of department heads from a few of our hospitals regarding a referral application we built in house to make referrals easier.
Anyway, that doesn't matter, before the meeting started, the docs were discussing the obvious. Not only did some express concern that China's initial numbers in January didn't add up, especially given the current rates we've seen but also the infection/death rate seems way low for the amount of quarantining they did. That led to speculation that China either covered up the outbreak from as early as September 2019 or didn't know what it was until January 2020. Either way that's bad.
Then one doc said he saw some reports from a medical journal that he reads that the COVID-19 virus will give a false positive on a Flu B test. That's just a teensy bit concerning. That's not to say that the COVID-19 test are no good. It's saying that the Flu B tests are reading a false positive for Flu B in COVID-19 infections.
In other words, what he was saying is that the implication there is that COVID-19 has been all over the globe since September when "flu season started early this year" and COVID-19 testing positive as Flu B is the reason for the especially virulent and harsh Flu B this year.
So the possibility exists that if you had a particularly nasty version of Flu B already, you may have already been infected with COVID-19.
It really shut the chatter up in the conference room and on the conference call.
The only way I can see to verify that is to retest folks who were tested positive for Flu B this past season and see if there are DNA/RNA markers from COVID-19 still hanging around in their bodies.
If all that's true, though, then this is far beyond pandemic and we're just catching up and noticing because China took so long to tell anyone and identify it.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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There's going to be A LOT of inheriting going on I guess.
Our local funeral homes and their crematories will be GOLD MINES soon. Not that they weren't already.
Now... how did S. Korea and Italy have tens of thousands of test kits for this one strand of virus and we had very little and the ones we had to begin with were supposedly faulty. Faulty?
Did they S.K. and Italy know about this strand a year ago and prepared and were ready? I'm puzzled by the tens of thousands of pos. tests in other Countries. What about the negative test results. There must be thousands and thousands of them too, right? All those test kits...and we didn't have but "I haven't heard yet how many we had that were defective" to start with.
I have an older friend who seemed to be GIDDY about relaying the bad scenarios to my email box. I kind-of let him have it today but in a respectful way. I also asked him some questions and he didn't answer them. And I was looking forward to his reasoning and actions over this stock market frenzy and gloom and doom he seems to like projecting to me.
I'll sure be glad when somebody, anybody discovers a vaccine for this virus!
Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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False positive Flu B?
Only thing that I cannot reconcile with this is that I have not felt a huge hit.
Although I will say it was kinda weird to have a flu season around november, then a slight lull, then flu again in february...Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
What's so hard to understand?
If you had what you thought was the flu and went to the doctor who did the swab test for the rapid diagnostic testing and you tested positive, what the doc said the journal article was saying was that the positive test wasn't a false positive like what is explained here:False-positive (and true-negative) influenza test results are more likely to occur when disease prevalence is low, which is generally at the beginning and end of the influenza season.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/diagnosis/rapidlab.htm
He's saying that there is speculation that COVID-19 would give a positive result on a Flu test using the Rapid Diagnostic Testing as defined above and COVID-19 would cause a positive result for Flu B in the Rapid Diagnostic Testing even though you didn't have Flu B.
So if you went to the doc with all the same symptoms as COVID-19 that we know now and your doc did a flu test before we knew about COVID-19, there's a chance that your positive Flu test was a false positive and your COVID-19 infection caused that false positive.
It's only on Flu B, though, not the Flu A results.
It would explain why there was such a huge number of Flu B cases this year when Flu B is typically more rare because it's not as easily transmitted as Flu A.
This isn't verified and I'm not a doctor, I'm only going by what I heard in a conversation with doctors.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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I even got a serious sinus cold. It was serious enough for my PA to prescribe a Z-pack. I think it was a mild dose. 6 pills I think it was. 2 the first day, one each the following days.
My sinuses started to drain a lot and then got better.
But then my bronchial tube and lungs started to burn. A dry burn. It only lasted about a day and a half but I WAS concerned! I haven't felt that kind-of burn in forever. It was like I breathed chlorine gas or something. A thorough burning from my neck all down into all of my lung linings. Scary! But it quickly went away and my breathing is just fine again.
Now all this started Feb. 4th or so. 2 days after the Super Bowl!
Then this virus started to spread and the news had hourly counts of the new pos. findings in the USA. 

It had me thinking! Then each day...
I was thinking, I don't have a fever.
..I don't have a fever.
..every day for weeks. 
Thank God!
That cruise ship with some of the crew testing Pos. will be quite the lab in the coming days and weeks won't it.Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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--Mark Twain.
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There's going to be A LOT of inheriting going on I guess.
Our local funeral homes and their crematories will be GOLD MINES soon. Not that they weren't already.
Now... how did S. Korea and Italy have tens of thousands of test kits for this one strand of virus and we had very little and the ones we had to begin with were supposedly faulty. Faulty?
Did they S.K. and Italy know about this strand a year ago and prepared and were ready? I'm puzzled by the tens of thousands of pos. tests in other Countries. What about the negative test results. There must be thousands and thousands of them too, right? All those test kits...and we didn't have but "I haven't heard yet how many we had that were defective" to start with.
I have an older friend who seemed to be GIDDY about relaying the bad scenarios to my email box. I kind-of let him have it today but in a respectful way. I also asked him some questions and he didn't answer them. And I was looking forward to his reasoning and actions over this stock market frenzy and gloom and doom he seems to like projecting to me.
I'll sure be glad when somebody, anybody discovers a vaccine for this virus!
I think it may be because WHO manufactured and distributed a great deal of tests to the international community, but for whatever stupid reason, CDC decided to go with their own undeveloped, more complicated, maybe superior test, which had some early difficulties due to faulty manufacturing processes in the lab in Atlanta that was making them. Their arrogance in refusing the WHO tests until they could get their own going was a major F*U* that probably cost us all dearly.George / NJ
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850+ cases, and 27 deaths in US as of Tuesday, 3/10/20. To be honest, I don’t understand the current closures of schools, government agencies, and businesses for two weeks, or until the end of March. It is just going to get worse by the end of March.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
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“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
At this rate ,i'll have the virus before the L800's ,Western Australia. W.A Wait Awhile .
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Better day today for the DOW. I will say though, I disagree with the hints being given to possibly subsidize the airlines and cruise industry...

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^^ and oil producers and the hospitality industry.
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Probably only temporary. As more and more people get this virus the economy will really go south.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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This was on another forum, and I assume it is accurate. Basically, it shows exponential growth of the virus infections.

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That video has some interesting information. For those with kiddos and as was pointed out to me previously by members kids can contract the virus but usually don't get sick. They provided an example such as Hep A, kids don't get sick but can pass on to their parents or care givers.
From Wiki:
"Michael T. Osterholm is a public health scientist and a biosecurity and infectious disease expert in the United States. Osterholm is the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota and a Regents Professor, the McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, a Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the University of Minnesota Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. He is also on the Board of Regents at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa."Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
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It shows some signs of an increasing slope, however 3/5 - 3/8 looks pretty darn linear. How much of this is simply due to increased testing? Also, it is more accurate if they do it based upon onset of symptoms.George / NJ
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I have to echo a lot of folks here trying to keep this thread on topic. Not sure why any tragedy thread here has to devolve into something political, or personal.
I have my views for sure, but they are mine, mine alone, and thus never up for debate or criticism. Everybody has a right to their views, and we have to respect that.
I remember the CA fires thread a while ago took a similar path. Jeez fellas!
Bottom line for me, and for everyone here I pray, who I admire and respect, is to be vigilant. Take precautions sure, as I have done for the first time in my life during flu season, but this too shall pass.
Surely, anyone who is deemed a high risk demographic must take extra precautions, as you are most vulnerable. My thoughts and prayers go out to each and every one of you.
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Sorry for my dumbness but I didn't know that the UFC guy did anything else outside of the fights.
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Sorry for my dumbness but I didn't know that the UFC guy did anything else outside of the fights.
He is quite the prolific interviewer. A cornucopia of different people for different reasons.
Everything from comedians to Elon Musk to Neil DeGrasse Tyson to Edward Snowden.
Some are a waste of time, others are interesting and informative.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
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"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
He runs about the most popular podcast out there. The thing I like about it, is he talks to anyone interesting, and he allows his guest to speak 70-80% of the time. I’ve learned of several interesting people from his podcast: Alex Honnold, Bret Weinstein, Jordan Peterson, Jako Wilinik, Mike Baker.... the list goes on and on.
Good stuff“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
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Medicare coverage for those of us using it. However, it doesn’t cover beer, which is a crock.
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They have shut down a Waffle House in Atlanta after an employee has tested positive. For the first time, all Waffle Houses in the area are undergoing a thorough cleaning.
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I remember the CA fires thread a while ago took a similar path. Jeez fellas!
I can remember people in that thread saying that they would be happy if California fell into the Pacific Ocean. Oddly, no one was banned over that. -
Well because that's just common sense...........KIDDING!George / NJ
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How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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