Scary virus outbreak in China

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,931
    If you're in the market for a globe, which market is the best to buy it from??
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    edited March 2020
    @willow this is by no means an event that is isolated to the US markets. Global markets have been taking a hit comeon lol

    Absolutely, maybe take a step back and actually look at how much dependency from all over the globe is put in China. Cheap labor, cheap goods, etc. Their economy tanks, most everyone elses will too.

    We make jokes about everything being made in China, right ? Shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,945
    While I have not "fact checked" this.....I heard on the news yesterday that back in the last economic recession of '08-'09, China only had 4% of the world market share. Today, they hold 16%. That's a big difference. FWIW

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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2020
    Because of the scare, I feel it is also hitting some small business owners. I run Karaoke and DJ in a few small bars. For the past few weeks, the bars that are usually packed during the winter ( 100+) have only had 10-15 customers all night on a Friday. Summertime they usually slow down a bit and loose some to places that have an outdoor patio but, not as bad as I have seen in the past few weeks.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2020
    It amazes me how poor people know everything about the stock market.
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  • krazypolk
    krazypolk Posts: 745
    So much for the gloom and doomers. Stocks are roaring back!
  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,742
    edited March 2020
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Interesting map. Thanks.

    Any stock rebound is to be expected, and is temporary.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,676
    treitz3 wrote: »
    la2vegas wrote: »
    No offense, but your logic is faulty.
    Care to back that up with any intelligence?

    Tom

    That'll never happen.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    Bud, to quote one of my favorite movies, moonstruck....

    Everything is temporary !!
    🙂

    So what changed today that enabled the market to come roaring back ? The virus news is just as bad today as it was last week.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    looks like the top level of Iran's government has been exposed to the virus. I call that a silver lining.
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 3,029
    I would submit to you that the VAST majority of Americans that contract this virus will never know it. They will feel sick for a few days, then recover and go on with their life.

    This has been the course of viral infections since the dawn of time. What has changed is the 24hr news cycle, that always needs a “crisis” to drive their ratings, and in turn advertising revenue.
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  • krazypolk
    krazypolk Posts: 745
    looks like the top level of Iran's government has been exposed to the virus. I call that a silver lining.

    I read that too. See the virus ain't that bad.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,681
    BlueFox wrote: »
    It amazes me how poor people know everything about the stock market.

    I pulled all my investments/401k out of stock last year.
    The investment guy was confused. I bet he now has a hint
    of why a long term bull market can't be maintained.
    It was going to happen. If not this, something else.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 13,084
    edited March 2020
    daddyjt wrote: »
    I would submit to you that the VAST majority of Americans that contract this virus will never know it. They will feel sick for a few days, then recover and go on with their life.

    This has been the course of viral infections since the dawn of time. What has changed is the 24hr news cycle, that always needs a “crisis” to drive their ratings, and in turn advertising revenue.

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    It amazes me how poor people know everything about the stock market.

    I pulled all my investments/401k out of stock last year.
    The investment guy was confused. I bet he now has a hint
    of why a long term bull market can't be maintained.
    It was going to happen. If not this, something else.

    Goes without saying, what goes up must come down eventually. The dips are short lived though. The markets as a whole over long periods of time continue to go up and up.

    You know how California is waiting for "the big one" to happen....same for the markets. To me, a crash aka...the big one...is gonna happen sooner rather than later. Why do I say that ? Because in spite of our booming economy, we are still broke with mountains of debt, while everyone else also has mountains of debt, negative interests rates, and no booming economies. There has to be a reset somewhere, that wipes out all debt. Only a crash can do that, and usually it's the middle class, middle investors, that are told to bend over.

    I know that's not very optimistic, but we are long overdue for a worldwide plunge.
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  • krazypolk
    krazypolk Posts: 745
    tonyb wrote: »
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    It amazes me how poor people know everything about the stock market.

    I pulled all my investments/401k out of stock last year.
    The investment guy was confused. I bet he now has a hint
    of why a long term bull market can't be maintained.
    It was going to happen. If not this, something else.

    Goes without saying, what goes up must come down eventually. The dips are short lived though. The markets as a whole over long periods of time continue to go up and up.

    You know how California is waiting for "the big one" to happen....same for the markets. To me, a crash aka...the big one...is gonna happen sooner rather than later. Why do I say that ? Because in spite of our booming economy, we are still broke with mountains of debt, while everyone else also has mountains of debt, negative interests rates, and no booming economies. There has to be a reset somewhere, that wipes out all debt. Only a crash can do that, and usually it's the middle class, middle investors, that are told to bend over.

    I know that's not very optimistic, but we are long overdue for a worldwide plunge.

    I thought we had that 12 years ago. Or are you suggesting worst?
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    Twelve years ago was a warning shot that went unheeded.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    I'm suggesting worse, something catastrophic that will force a rewire of the financial institutions around the globe. Debts will have to be wiped out in order for growth to happen again. Like a game of musical chairs, who will be left standing with no chair ?

    I can tell you this, it won't be the elites, and certainly won't be the poor, they never had a chair to begin with. That leaves the middle class again to take the brunt of the losses.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    6 deaths now, all in Washington.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,878
    I figure most of the people dying are Chinese and I'm over here and I'm making BIG money from all the brouha and isn't that's what most important how much money I can make ? Yeah money that's THE most important thing. :ME. and MY MONEY.
    I see there are a number of fellow traellers with the same mindset in this thread because WE know what's most important in life: money.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    tonyb wrote: »
    I'm suggesting worse, something catastrophic that will force a rewire of the financial institutions around the globe. Debts will have to be wiped out in order for growth to happen again. Like a game of musical chairs, who will be left standing with no chair ?

    I can tell you this, it won't be the elites, and certainly won't be the poor, they never had a chair to begin with. That leaves the middle class again to take the brunt of the losses.

    I actually agree with this. Will wonders never cease? :)
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  • daddyjt
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    I figure most of the people dying are Chinese and I'm over here and I'm making BIG money from all the brouha and isn't that's what most important how much money I can make ? Yeah money that's THE most important thing. :ME. and MY MONEY.
    I see there are a number of fellow traellers with the same mindset in this thread because WE know what's most important in life: money.

    Well,... yea.

    Certainly not the most important, but pretty close. I like to be able to feed my family. And clothe them. And provide them a safe place to sleep. I like to have reliable transportation. And medical care. And audio gear.

    That all takes money. The demonization of wealth perplexes me, especially on an audio forum where so many spend so much on a hobby.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,878
    Oh I'm not demonizing money.
    In fact I've discarded all moral values becuse I'v seen how I can increase my moneys by doing so.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,981
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    Anti-Corona virus spray,
    Spray throat three times a day.
  • krazypolk
    krazypolk Posts: 745
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    Anti-Corona virus spray,
    Spray throat three times a day.

    Now you're speakin my language.
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,600
    krazypolk wrote: »
    So much for the gloom and doomers. Stocks are roaring back!

    For one day. That’s a little premature
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,600
    6 deaths now, all in Washington.

    How many sick in Washington?
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,508
    Joey_V wrote: »
    6 deaths now, all in Washington.

    How many sick in Washington?

    Back in the early 90s, everyone between the ages of 16 and 32 in Washington was sick.
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