Infinity RSII....??? Any one had ears on them?

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  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 2,826
    The XL 600 should control all the crazy load swings those RS's will demand. If the price is right there's no better way than trial and error.
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  • GardenstaterGardenstater Posts: 1,473
    CH46E wrote: »
    Anyone with some help for cleaning the foam surround on that one bottom woofer.

    Ultraviolet light? However, we KNOW that is destructive to foam and plastics. The question is how long do you have to treat and how much degradation in that time frame. It would be like chemotherapy or radiation therapy for cancer. :#
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  • SchurkeySchurkey Posts: 1,961
    edited January 10
    Buddy of mine is into Haflers. Built a DH500 kit in '83 or '84, has added to his collection bigly since then. Even got his local friends into them. Bought a heap of Haflers from eBay, fixed 'em as needed, and his pals bought them from him. He has at least one XL600, but mostly DH500s of various versions.

    The DH and XL support in the aftermarket is really good. Any DH or XL is going to need fresh electrolytics by now unless it's been done recently. Seems to me there's some trouble with "input boards", at least on the DH series, but better ones are as close as your mail box. He bought one that was said to be "working", when it showed up the leads had melted off of the output transistors. Seller blamed "shipping damage". My buddy said that amplifier had "FET outputs--Flame Emitting Transistors. SOME of these amps (DH, mainly) got used HARD in commercial applications because they were fairly inexpensive, had good power, and sounded nice. Some of the Carver amps were similar--"home Hi-Fi" amps that could be put to work commercially with a change to the input jacks and not much else needed.

    Damn fine amps, good basic engineering, eminently hot-roddable. The XLs were nice-looking, too. The major downside is their age.


  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 2,826
    One thing I forgot to mention about the Haflers is the fan is kinda noisy. Stuff like that bug me but it may not bother you if your environment isn't dead quiet like mine. Also these amps are a relatively bright amp and quite revealing in the upper registers. Combining that with the Infinity's bright and revealing ribbon tweeter and it might be somewhat fatiguing. Again only way to tell is to try it yourself. If the price is right, go for it. Worst case is you don't like it and would need to flip it which shouldn't be a problem as they have a quite popular following.
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  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    CH46E wrote: »
    Anyone with some help for cleaning the foam surround on that one bottom woofer.
    Wouldn't hurt to start with just mild soap and water, and a toothbrush. See if it comes back after that.
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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    jdjohn wrote: »
    CH46E wrote: »
    Anyone with some help for cleaning the foam surround on that one bottom woofer.
    Wouldn't hurt to start with just mild soap and water, and a toothbrush. See if it comes back after that.

    I'll give that a light try. Thanks!
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    I'm still reading about the Hafler I found local. He just dropped the price and it's making it very hard for me to not day screw it and buy it.
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,745
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  • SchurkeySchurkey Posts: 1,961
    CH46E wrote: »
    I'm still reading about the Hafler I found local. He just dropped the price and it's making it very hard for me to not day screw it and buy it.
    You could do WAY worse. What is the current price?

    I'd think that at worst, you could try it, see what happens...and re-sell it if it's not to your liking.


  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    From what I can tell it's a great price. What say y'all?
    $210. As far as he knows it's original and was used in his Church before it closed. I already asked if he had any old JBL speakers from the church and he does not. Say they had Peavy and they are long gone.
  • lawdogglawdogg Posts: 385
    Ya did good.

    I can't imagine a church rocking a pair of RSIIs! Awesome!
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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    lawdogg wrote: »
    Ya did good.

    I can't imagine a church rocking a pair of RSIIs! Awesome!

    Oh no.... the 210 was for the Hafler that I have not decided to buy yet.


    The Infinity are another story. I WISH I GOT THEM FOR $210
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    The RSIIs cost me as follows.

    Pair of:
    JBL L3
    POLK RTA11T with 194 tweeters
    PARADIGM STUDIO 20 V1
    KEF K19
    and
    1 Adcom GFA5200
    1 NAD 906 that needed a little work
    3 Polk tweeters (the silver coils thingys)
    1 Polk RM7500 Piano black finish center speaker

    And 1 $50 Amazon gift card.

    The Polks and JBLs were in awesome condition.

    So all that for the Infinity RSII. My wife had been hounding me to get rid of a bunch of speakers. I was only using the JBLs and the Adcom in the living room for TV duty. So most was not being used at all and just took up space. I figured I killed two birds with one stone. Wife is happy and I have a pair of speakers I only dreamed of as a kid.

    Now while I play with the RSII I have my RTA12B in the living room for TV duty on a old Pioneer HTR. Kind of a sad sight to be honest.
  • machonemachone Posts: 1,279
    John Hillig of Musical Concepts can transform a Hafler into something special. I modded my DH500 and am very happy. You can do everything at once or take it in steps. He is very easy to talk to and knows Haflers inside and out.
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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    You guys think $210 is a no brainer for the Hafler XL600? It certainly seems to have the horse power needed. I could maybe spend a few hundred on upgrades but that would be it.

    We all know HP is not everything.

    I mean I have a 3,000 watt Beringer class D amp for my subs but it sounds like doo doo on anything other than a sub.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 17,518
    Well pardon me but if it works as it should then you're wasting time asking silly questions.
    Back in my younger days $210 was a friday night after work.... With nothing to show for it Saturday.
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Well pardon me but if it works as it should then you're wasting time asking silly questions.
    Back in my younger days $210 was a friday night after work.... With nothing to show for it Saturday.

    That is actually a good point and so true.
  • Gerres26Gerres26 Posts: 698
    I would think $210 in working condition is a no brained deal. Much worse gear goes for much more than that.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,544
    CH46E wrote: »
    You guys think $210 is a no brainer for the Hafler XL600? It certainly seems to have the horse power needed. I could maybe spend a few hundred on upgrades but that would be it.

    We all know HP is not everything.

    I mean I have a 3,000 watt Beringer class D amp for my subs but it sounds like doo doo on anything other than a sub.

    I'd never sweat taking a vintage piece like that and getting it refurbed for a few hundred.

    I have sellers remorse selling Matt Polks Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks. After refurb total cost was including shipping was around $7k. Where in the h e l l was I going to get 250watts of Nelson Pass pure classA amps for under $20k...lesson learned....but didn't have the room anymore and they went to a true audiophiles home.
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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    Hey, at least they went where they were appreciated.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,544
    CH46E wrote: »
    Hey, at least they went where they were appreciated.

    Yes sir, I enjoyed them too!! and several Polkies got to hear at LSAF...Ask @lightman1 Russ
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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    Ok little problem.

    When I push on one woofer the other only moves so slightly. If one woofer is crossed over at 125 and the other at 60hz would they still share a enclosure? Or would they be seperate? I tried a 40 and 30 hz tone and I think my right speaker lower woofer is not working.

    I guess I'll take it out tomorrow and put a meter on it. And see if they are in a shared enclosure and try to locate air leaks.
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,745
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    CH46E wrote: »
    Hey, at least they went where they were appreciated.

    Yes sir, I enjoyed them too!! and several Polkies got to hear at LSAF...Ask @lightman1 Russ

    Yup. I got the chills listening to that set up.
  • Gerres26Gerres26 Posts: 698
    lightman1 wrote: »
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    CH46E wrote: »
    Hey, at least they went where they were appreciated.

    Yes sir, I enjoyed them too!! and several Polkies got to hear at LSAF...Ask @lightman1 Russ

    Yup. I got the chills listening to that set up.

    What was the rest of the gear in that set up??
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,544
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,617
    Since we are currently off topic, I gotta ask. Was that at a different hotel? That carpet and wallpaper are hideous, not to mention filthy.

    That's a great combo of gear though. Bet that did sound good Ron.

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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,544
    That was one of the conference rooms at Embassy

    The point is, taking a classic amp and refurbishing it is a great value and making it a survivor for many more years
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    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • lawdogglawdogg Posts: 385
    CH46E wrote: »
    Ok little problem.

    When I push on one woofer the other only moves so slightly. If one woofer is crossed over at 125 and the other at 60hz would they still share a enclosure? Or would they be seperate? I tried a 40 and 30 hz tone and I think my right speaker lower woofer is not working.

    I guess I'll take it out tomorrow and put a meter on it. And see if they are in a shared enclosure and try to locate air leaks.

    They are in separate enclosures, so that's odd. It may be worth removing the woofers to verify each is operational.
    <3 my 3.1TLs

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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 2,740
    I think I'm going to give that a try today if I can get out of work on time. Looking like my chances are slim right now.
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 2,826
    CH46E wrote: »
    From what I can tell it's a great price. What say y'all?
    $210. As far as he knows it's original and was used in his Church before it closed. I already asked if he had any old JBL speakers from the church and he does not. Say they had Peavy and they are long gone.

    Dude! Do not walk. RUN and get it! If it doesn't work for you, you can sell it to me for my barn.
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    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
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