L800 SDA at Listen Up tomorrow evening..

Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 14,543
Looking forward to seeing, and hearing these with my own eyes, and ears...
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  • Great! You will be the first to answer "how does the L800 compare to the hot rodded SDA SRS 1.2TL?"
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  • Looking forward to hearing about your experience with these speakers!
    Speakers
    Energy RC-70 Mains, Energy RC-LRC Center, Energy RC-R (x4) Rear Channels, Energy RC-R (x2) Front Effects
    Polk 5jr+
    Polk SDA 2B
    Polk SDS 3.1TL

    Equipment
    Panamax 5510 Re-generator Power Conditioner
    Yamaha RX-V3800 Receiver
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  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,816
    edited November 2019
    Me too.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 964
    edited November 2019
    "I see you shiver with..."
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  • stevepstevep Posts: 175
    Stu did a great job demo'ing them in Boulder last night but the seating arrangements didn't do them any great favors.
  • Polkitup2Polkitup2 Posts: 1,599
    stevep wrote: »
    Stu did a great job demo'ing them in Boulder last night but the seating arrangements didn't do them any great favors.

    What did you think of them?

  • stevepstevep Posts: 175
    Polkitup2 wrote: »

    What did you think of them?

    I thought, I would have liked to have more time in a better room to listen to them.

  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 14,543
    I should also note, I was quite surprised by how many people showed up to see, and hear these speakers, also the book shelf L100’s are great sounding bookies, and the size of the L400 is a lot bigger than I expected it to be, (note I never looked at the specs of it beforehand)..
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 1,821
    edited November 2019
    Thanks TF66!

    "The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined..."
    Worth repeating. I did not expect this.. well I was hoping/expecting mid bass, mids,
    and upper range to be better for sure :*
  • Toolfan66 wrote: »
    They don’t have me wanting to give up what I have despite the fact Stu said they are better than the vintage SDA’s,...

    I don't doubt that the L800s outperform stock SDAs. Modded SDAs are a different species though. I wonder if Stu has heard any fully modded vintage SDAs.

    @F1nut
    The L800 manual does not mention a requirement for a common ground amplifier. Have you heard or read anything regarding whether the L800s are safe to use with isolated ground stereo amps and mono block amps?
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    ...but for 6K, and considering I have about 5k invested in mine, I will keep what I have...

    I can say for a fact, The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined...

    That's about what I expected. I'm still excited to hear them though.
    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,974
    I wonder how VR3 mods on the L800 vs. VR3 mods 1.2TL would compare
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  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    They are nice speakers, they produce a large sound stage, and just like an SDA should the sound will wrap around you, immerse you. They don’t have me wanting to give up what I have despite the fact Stu said they are better than the vintage SDA’s, I didn’t feel that way, but would be nice to hear them in your own home, but for 6K, and considering I have about 5k invested in mine, I will keep what I have..

    I can say for a fact, The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined...

    I wold hope Stu's comparisons were side by side at same time I would have to imagine.

    Wonder how much the room detracted from the sound and so on.
    But still interesting your observations about them!
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  • gyosagyosa Posts: 546

    That would be a mighty expensive pair of speakers !

    Bk


    I wonder how VR3 mods on the L800 vs. VR3 mods 1.2TL would compare

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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,858
    Yes, bund would undoubtedly be able to punch at those prices 2-3 times the investment.
  • verbverb Posts: 10,313
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
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    Love the acoustic treatment too! :)

    Larry thanks for sharing your thoughts. Agree with @DarqueKnight too on the L800 vs. stock SDA's.

    Mine are pretty much stock, except the tweeters. I would expect to see a huge gain in performance.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 45,214
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    They don’t have me wanting to give up what I have despite the fact Stu said they are better than the vintage SDA’s,...

    I don't doubt that the L800s outperform stock SDAs. Modded SDAs are a different species though. I wonder if Stu has heard any fully modded vintage SDAs.

    @F1nut
    The L800 manual does not mention a requirement for a common ground amplifier. Have you heard or read anything regarding whether the L800s are safe to use with isolated ground stereo amps and mono block amps?
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    ...but for 6K, and considering I have about 5k invested in mine, I will keep what I have...

    I can say for a fact, The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined...

    That's about what I expected. I'm still excited to hear them though.

    They do not require a common ground amp. However, a little birdie told me they and the Marantz PM10 do not get along, which may explain why the PM10 was driving the L100 instead of the L800.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 45,214
    Look at Russ throwing out some logic.
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 14,543
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    Ha, when he said that I told him good answer... LOL!! Like he was going to answer it any other way..

  • hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    No, I would not expect that, just as I wouldn't expect the CEO of Porsche to say vintage Porsches are "better" than the brand new product he is standing in front of trying to help sell.

    However, some skillful mechanics have worked miracles on those old cars, and sometimes the old cars offer some features and performance attributes that the newer cars lack.


    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 9,423
    K_M wrote: »
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    No, because it is very doubtful the vintage ones are better.

    It would be admitting nothing can be improved, no matter how much time and money and were spent on the new Models.

    That seems very unrealistic, and not representative of what I see in speaker design over the last few decades.


    Newer ≠ Better
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    Nightfall wrote: »
    K_M wrote: »
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    No, because it is very doubtful the vintage ones are better.

    It would be admitting nothing can be improved, no matter how much time and money and were spent on the new Models.

    That seems very unrealistic, and not representative of what I see in speaker design over the last few decades.


    Newer ≠ Better

    Spoken like a true SDA Fanboy....

    I forgot speaker design and driver technology were at their apex in 1990 and went downhill afterwards....Shhhhh!

    Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
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    Yamaha RX-V377
    Yamaha RX-A860
    Yamaha RX-A3060
    Harman Kardon Hk-350i
    Harman Kardon Hk-........
    Harman Kardon PM-665
    Harman Kardon HK-775
    Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver

  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 9,423
    edited November 2019
    I own more speakers that aren't SDA's than SDA's. Fanboy? No. I've been listening to Infinity Kappa's for a while now and they aren't leaving my setup any time soon.

    Just because they're built with better technology doesn't mean they're voiced in a way I find pleasant. In a way someone else will find pleasing? Probably. Too subjective.

    Look at all the super expensive speakers (better tech, better built, etc.) Jesse listened to the other day and didn't like. Not that you care what he thinks, I'm just saying.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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