L800 SDA at Listen Up tomorrow evening..

Toolfan66
Toolfan66 Posts: 17,303
Looking forward to seeing, and hearing these with my own eyes, and ears...
Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

SVS SB16 X2

Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
Cary DMS 800PV Network
OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • Great! You will be the first to answer "how does the L800 compare to the hot rodded SDA SRS 1.2TL?"
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  • Looking forward to hearing about your experience with these speakers!
    Speakers
    Energy RC-70 Mains, Energy RC-LRC Center, Energy RC-R (x4) Rear Channels, Energy RC-R (x2) Front Effects
    Polk 5jr+
    Polk SDA 2B
    Polk SDS 3.1TL

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    Panamax 5510 Re-generator Power Conditioner
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    edited November 2019
    Me too.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
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    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
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  • Maybe a batch of rings for the 800's are in the future.
  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited November 2019
    "I see you shiver with..."
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  • stevep
    stevep Posts: 335
    Stu did a great job demo'ing them in Boulder last night but the seating arrangements didn't do them any great favors.
  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,622
    stevep wrote: »
    Stu did a great job demo'ing them in Boulder last night but the seating arrangements didn't do them any great favors.

    What did you think of them?
  • stevep
    stevep Posts: 335
    Polkitup2 wrote: »

    What did you think of them?

    I thought, I would have liked to have more time in a better room to listen to them.

  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,303
    58iz1blf7ed3.jpeg
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,303
    I should also note, I was quite surprised by how many people showed up to see, and hear these speakers, also the book shelf L100’s are great sounding bookies, and the size of the L400 is a lot bigger than I expected it to be, (note I never looked at the specs of it beforehand)..
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,969
    edited November 2019
    Thanks TF66!

    "The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined..."
    Worth repeating. I did not expect this.. well I was hoping/expecting mid bass, mids,
    and upper range to be better for sure :*
    Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears
  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,969
    A flower.
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  • Toolfan66 wrote: »
    They don’t have me wanting to give up what I have despite the fact Stu said they are better than the vintage SDA’s,...

    I don't doubt that the L800s outperform stock SDAs. Modded SDAs are a different species though. I wonder if Stu has heard any fully modded vintage SDAs.

    @F1nut
    The L800 manual does not mention a requirement for a common ground amplifier. Have you heard or read anything regarding whether the L800s are safe to use with isolated ground stereo amps and mono block amps?
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    ...but for 6K, and considering I have about 5k invested in mine, I will keep what I have...

    I can say for a fact, The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined...

    That's about what I expected. I'm still excited to hear them though.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,447
    I wonder how VR3 mods on the L800 vs. VR3 mods 1.2TL would compare
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    Always hard to make an apples to apples comparison without using the same gear and cables, in the same room.
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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,629
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    They are nice speakers, they produce a large sound stage, and just like an SDA should the sound will wrap around you, immerse you. They don’t have me wanting to give up what I have despite the fact Stu said they are better than the vintage SDA’s, I didn’t feel that way, but would be nice to hear them in your own home, but for 6K, and considering I have about 5k invested in mine, I will keep what I have..

    I can say for a fact, The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined...

    I wold hope Stu's comparisons were side by side at same time I would have to imagine.

    Wonder how much the room detracted from the sound and so on.
    But still interesting your observations about them!
  • gyosa
    gyosa Posts: 752

    That would be a mighty expensive pair of speakers !

    Bk


    I wonder how VR3 mods on the L800 vs. VR3 mods 1.2TL would compare

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  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    Yes, bund would undoubtedly be able to punch at those prices 2-3 times the investment.
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
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    Love the acoustic treatment too! :)

    Larry thanks for sharing your thoughts. Agree with @DarqueKnight too on the L800 vs. stock SDA's.

    Mine are pretty much stock, except the tweeters. I would expect to see a huge gain in performance.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,649
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    They don’t have me wanting to give up what I have despite the fact Stu said they are better than the vintage SDA’s,...

    I don't doubt that the L800s outperform stock SDAs. Modded SDAs are a different species though. I wonder if Stu has heard any fully modded vintage SDAs.

    @F1nut
    The L800 manual does not mention a requirement for a common ground amplifier. Have you heard or read anything regarding whether the L800s are safe to use with isolated ground stereo amps and mono block amps?
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    ...but for 6K, and considering I have about 5k invested in mine, I will keep what I have...

    I can say for a fact, The lower end on my 1.2tl’s is much better, definitely more detailed, and defined...

    That's about what I expected. I'm still excited to hear them though.

    They do not require a common ground amp. However, a little birdie told me they and the Marantz PM10 do not get along, which may explain why the PM10 was driving the L100 instead of the L800.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,649
    Look at Russ throwing out some logic.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,303
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    Ha, when he said that I told him good answer... LOL!! Like he was going to answer it any other way..

    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

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    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
  • hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    No, I would not expect that, just as I wouldn't expect the CEO of Porsche to say vintage Porsches are "better" than the brand new product he is standing in front of trying to help sell.

    However, some skillful mechanics have worked miracles on those old cars, and sometimes the old cars offer some features and performance attributes that the newer cars lack.


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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,746
    At the end of the day, good sound is good sound. But good sound can come in different flavors.

    In my mind, the vintage sda to the L800 is what my mezzo Utopias are to the Scala.

    The hifi of 20 to 30 years ago was geared towards being musical. Hifi today is more about ruler flat response and "true reproduction"

    Can't remember who said it... But it went something like this... "we made a perfectly flat response speaker, no additions or subtractions... After we accomplished such a feat, we started to work on a pair that actually sounded good."

    By no means am I saying that is what's been done with the L800. I will own a set of L800 though eventuality, have to admit it's the speakers I've always wanted Polk to make... Nerd alert!
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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,629
    edited November 2019
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    No, because it is very doubtful the vintage ones are better.

    It would be admitting nothing can be improved, no matter how much time and money and were spent on the new Models.

    That seems very unrealistic, and not representative of what I see in speaker design over the last few decades.


  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    K_M wrote: »
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    No, because it is very doubtful the vintage ones are better.

    It would be admitting nothing can be improved, no matter how much time and money and were spent on the new Models.

    That seems very unrealistic, and not representative of what I see in speaker design over the last few decades.


    Newer ≠ Better
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,629
    Nightfall wrote: »
    K_M wrote: »
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    ummm do you really expect Stu say the vintage SDAs are better than the brand new product his is standing in fromt of trying help sell?

    No, because it is very doubtful the vintage ones are better.

    It would be admitting nothing can be improved, no matter how much time and money and were spent on the new Models.

    That seems very unrealistic, and not representative of what I see in speaker design over the last few decades.


    Newer ≠ Better

    Spoken like a true SDA Fanboy....

    I forgot speaker design and driver technology were at their apex in 1990 and went downhill afterwards....Shhhhh!

  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited November 2019
    I own more speakers that aren't SDA's than SDA's. Fanboy? No. I've been listening to Infinity Kappa's for a while now and they aren't leaving my setup any time soon.

    Just because they're built with better technology doesn't mean they're voiced in a way I find pleasant. In a way someone else will find pleasing? Probably. Too subjective.

    Look at all the super expensive speakers (better tech, better built, etc.) Jesse listened to the other day and didn't like. Not that you care what he thinks, I'm just saying.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk