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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,334
    edited October 30
    ^^ yep, don't forget the hurricane prone areas of the right coast and gulf. May be they should build houses on stilts where it floods....lol.

    How come no one politicises those areas misfortunes.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,609
    ^^ yep, don't forget the hurricane prone areas of the right coast and gulf. May be they should build houses on stilts where it floods....lol.

    How come no one politicises those areas?


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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,886
    ^^ yep, don't forget the hurricane prone areas of the right coast and gulf. May be they should build houses on stilts where it floods....lol.

    How come no one politicises those areas?

    People that want to live in flood zones should be required to build their houses underground too.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,726
    afterburnt wrote: »
    ^^ yep, don't forget the hurricane prone areas of the right coast and gulf. May be they should build houses on stilts where it floods....lol.

    How come no one politicises those areas?

    People that want to live in flood zones should be required to build their houses underground too.

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  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 19,085
    edited October 30
    There's not much timber to clear in the Gulf of Mexico. Hey, if you don't mind watching your state burn down, oh well. Must not matter much to you, otherwise you wouldn't keep defending the way things are (not) done.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,886
    But you can't beat the weather
  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,784
    Perhaps the immigrants everyone is so worried about could be recruited to help fight the fires. You have to admit, these people generally work their tails off compared to the average American.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,886
    do they have water-dropping helicopters?
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,150
    Gee it's not about politics it's about stupid policy.

    Power lines in high wind areas need to be kept clear, they are not.

    Fire roads and 100 yard fire breaks need to be cut.

    Need to resume controlled burns in the winter. Cal Fire did a few in San Diego last winter then got sued to stop.

    Other thing to look at is funding, Since the 2003 fire look at how much more funding has gone to Cal Fire and local fire departments.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,140
    ^^ yep, don't forget the hurricane prone areas of the right coast and gulf. May be they should build houses on stilts where it floods....lol.

    How come no one politicises those areas misfortunes.

    Most of those areas now require homes, etc. to be elevated above flood levels. Of course, New Orleans is a different story. The next time it floods and it will, they should either leave it or call the Dutch for help.
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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,692
    Florida's New building codes are very good. I had 0 damage from IRMA. Older homes built before the new code are subject to catastrophic failure and cost 3 to 4 x as much to insure.

    Many newer homes on the coast ARE built on stilts and some are required. After a few bad hurricanes coastal Florida addressed it pretty well.

    When you saw photos of the destruction in Mexico Beach from a year or so ago you could see the diff between the old code and the new code.

    The old wooden structures got mangled. The newer concrete block and roofs withstood the storm.

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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,334
    Houston is like one of worse areas for flooding now. They destroyed the natural buffer zones being the salt marsh areas and built on them. And those are right at sea level I believe.
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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,807
    Houston is like one of worse areas for flooding now. They destroyed the natural buffer zones being the salt marsh areas and built on them. And those are right at sea level I believe.

    It's those darn politicians fault! But wait, is Texas a red or blue state? :D
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,513
    Houston is like one of worse areas for flooding now. They destroyed the natural buffer zones being the salt marsh areas and built on them. And those are right at sea level I believe.

    At least they got to lose the World Series. :#
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,807
    Viking64 wrote: »
    Houston is like one of worse areas for flooding now. They destroyed the natural buffer zones being the salt marsh areas and built on them. And those are right at sea level I believe.

    At least they got to lose the World Series. :#

    We don't mention the losers here.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,652
    Doesn't matter if a red or blue state, public safety it seems gets pushed down for money and agendas in all of them. California just happens to be a shinning example of it.

    Steve made a good point , you can't fix a problem if you can't honestly look at the cause. Which should transcend politics when public safety is involved.....should....but never does. I don't think one among us would argue that when it comes to public safety politics should be left out of the solutions. We just can't seem to get that message to those making policy for those solutions.

    Really shouldn't be hard , we all use problem solving skills in our everyday lives. You look for the common denominators and start eliminating one by one until it becomes obvious.

    First one must admit that a problem even exists. Then must have the will to solve it. Then, not let outside influences determine the solutions. Not sure California has moved beyond the fist step.
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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,150
    Red, blue, left or right. just doesn't matter.

    For CA it's more the enviro ****. They keep law suits every time they start clearing or doing the right thing.

    I have two friends that live in the back country of San Diego. They both clear their land at least 200' away from their home. Almost every year they get fined and have to go to court. Every time they win. Some enviro **** sees them clearing and files a complaint, county has no choice but to site them.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,513
    So much for "the next TWO days". :p
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,515
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    Yup. Nothing on fire where I'm at.
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,807
    Back in the day they used to burn some other kind of trees.ovxon7aj40la.png
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,807
    daddyjt wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Doesn't matter if a red or blue state, public safety it seems gets pushed down for money and agendas in all of them. California just happens to be a shinning example of it.

    Steve made a good point , you can't fix a problem if you can't honestly look at the cause. Which should transcend politics when public safety is involved.....should....but never does. I don't think one among us would argue that when it comes to public safety politics should be left out of the solutions. We just can't seem to get that message to those making policy for those solutions.

    Really shouldn't be hard , we all use problem solving skills in our everyday lives. You look for the common denominators and start eliminating one by one until it becomes obvious.

    First one must admit that a problem even exists. Then must have the will to solve it. Then, not let outside influences determine the solutions. Not sure California has moved beyond the fist step.

    One more thing that seems to be preventing us from getting to the root cause of these types of issues now, is the fervor to assign everything to “climate change”. The contortions that politicians and media put themselves through to ignore facts and drive their narrative is head scratching to say the least.

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,609
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,140
    It's fall and getting chilly outside......yep, it's climate change time again.
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  • polrbehrpolrbehr Posts: 2,428
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's fall and getting chilly outside......yep, it's climate change time again.

    I predict another ice age will be coming soon too. Say, in about 3 more months?? :cold_sweat:

    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 19,085
    When we can stop 1 damn tornado, come talk to me about how we're going to change the entire "climate."
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,951
    edited October 31
    steveinaz wrote: »
    When we can stop 1 damn tornado, come talk to me about how we're going to change the entire "climate."

    We can Steve but the fall out and destruction from the thermonuclear device is frowned upon. B)
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,652
    Revert back to my previous post.....you can't control nature, we just have to live in it's world. Climate change puts forth the idea that somehow by sending money to politicians and giving them more control over our lives, that will stop the Santa Ana winds from blowing, volcanoes from erupting, earthquakes will settle down and hurricanes will never happen again. Polar ice will stop melting/freezing, oceans will stop rising/falling, blizzards will be a thing of the past, and our climate will be the same, year after year, decade after decade.

    ….and if you believe that to have merit, maybe a padded room is in your future.

    I think many confuse pollution with climate change. Pollution in general is a real thing that every country needs to address on their own abilities. Like we discussed before, Asia isn't going to let anyone push them around, nor is Russia, India, and many South American countries. The main polluters come from Asia, India.

    Most western cultures have taken steps to at least try and be better stewards of the planet....yet it is western cultures which take the brunt of the criticisms. Nobody is marching in India, China, Russia in protests. Why is that ?

    The fires in California are once again being used for propaganda to serve an agenda. Actually solving the problem using common sense solutions doesn't appear to be on the radar.

    The people are upset that they pay so much in taxes and get so little back for it. They blame the state partially for not allowing brush clean up, tree's trimmed. The state wants to blame the utility companies, the utility company blames the state for over regulating them to the point they have no wiggle room to invest in modernizing their equipment. PG&E has filed for bankruptcy protection earlier this year, so don't expect them to be throwing tons of cash at this problem.

    Took what....100 or so years for your ancestors to build up California from a wilderness, and now in a few decades they seem bent on trying to return it to a wilderness. I'll be the first to applaud them for their conservation efforts, but when that get's in the way of public safety someone has to say wait a minute here.

    The very first duty on any local/state/federal government is to keep the general public safe as best they can. Safe from disasters, crime, murder, safe water to drink, air to breathe, roads to travel on. Safe schools, safe workplaces, safe air travel. Just to name a few. Some states put more safety concerns into sidewalks than we do wildfires.

    If I lived in California, I'd be demanding they fulfill their duty of safety for the general public first and foremost.
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,513
    tonyb wrote: »
    Asia isn't going to let anyone push them around, nor is Russia, India....

    India is in Asia. So is 77% of Russia. :p
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