Need economical cables ....

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gyosa
gyosa Posts: 699
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Need 2 6 foot runs of 14 gauge cables ....
Any economical suggestions?
I’m talking like Blue Jeans economical ...
Their 14 gauge cables are almost a half inch thick ... too unwieldy....
Thanks

Bk
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
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    @Clipdat Has mentioned the Krukonceptz Krux is a good wire that isn't too expensive. DIY is pretty cheap at $3 and some change per foot. You can get wire that is already terminated on Ebay.

    The smallest they have is 12g though.

    Drew, were these hard to handle, bend, heavy in any way?
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  • Clipdat
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    I was going to mention the Krux cable, but it's pretty big because of how all the individual wires are braided together. Also as a result of that it's fairly heavy. Seeing as how the OP didn't like the BJC cable, I figured he also wouldn't like these.

    That being said, the price is right, as is the performance. I highly recommend trying these out if they fit your budget: https://www.ebay.com/itm/KnuKonceptz-Krux-Interlaced-Braided-8-Gauge-Speaker-Cable-8-Pair-w-Banana-Plugs/392222051240

    They're also available in bi-wire.
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  • jdjohn
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    To be sure, speaker cables? If so, you can't beat Monoprice 14AWG pure copper cables for price. You can find that at Home Depot or Lowe's...or Amazon.
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  • mrloren
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    Monoprice or Amazon Basic
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  • rooftop59
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    Clipdat wrote: »
    I was going to mention the Krux cable, but it's pretty big because of how all the individual wires are braided together. Also as a result of that it's fairly heavy. Seeing as how the OP didn't like the BJC cable, I figured he also wouldn't like these.

    That being said, the price is right, as is the performance. I highly recommend trying these out if they fit your budget: https://www.ebay.com/itm/KnuKonceptz-Krux-Interlaced-Braided-8-Gauge-Speaker-Cable-8-Pair-w-Banana-Plugs/392222051240

    They're also available in bi-wire.

    For that price you can also win a ZU audio auction for speaker cables FYI...haven't heard the Knus so I have no idea how they compare...
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  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
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    We have a great 14 gauge cable we can make for you, our Bravo 14 AWG OFHC Speaker Cables. Or I can put together a DIY kit for you if you'd rather do it yourself. PM me if you are interested. As a Club polk member you get a 10% discount.
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  • westmassguy
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    helipilotdoug wrote: »
    We have a great 14 gauge cable we can make for you, our Bravo 14 AWG OFHC Speaker Cables. Or I can put together a DIY kit for you if you'd rather do it yourself. PM me if you are interested. As a Club polk member you get a 10% discount.

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  • gyosa
    gyosa Posts: 699
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    Found some Kimber Kable in my box of forgotten stereo stuff ...
    2 , 6 foot pieces ....
    Forgot I had it ...
    I bought it in the late 80’s - early 90’s .... was rather expensive, I thought , at the time ...
    Used it on my B&K with the Polks .....

    Also found some brown/black Kimber Kable ...
    I remember one was more expensive than the other ... can’t remember which , though ......

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    Dayens Ampino , Yamaha wxc-50 , Polk SDA 1c’s ( my first love .. ) , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 42” - BEDROOM

    B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL

    Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Salk Supercharged Song towers ( difficult choice between these and my family if I had to choose ... 😩 ) , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN RIG

    PS Audio S300 - sitting in the closet for now …

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - PATIO
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  • delkal
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    Enjoy. Vintage Kimber Kable should be better than any of the brands we were discussing.

    But after 30 years it would be a good idea to cut off an inch and get to the bright wire.
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  • gyosa
    gyosa Posts: 699
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    Will do ...
    Also found a bunch of interconnects by MIT and Vampire Wire ...
    Totally forgot about that box of old forgotten stuff from back before I got married and had a kid !
    The days of tape decks , turntable's and CD players ....
    Ha ha ...
    ☺

    Bk
    Dayens Ampino , Yamaha wxc-50 , Polk SDA 1c’s ( my first love .. ) , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 42” - BEDROOM

    B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL

    Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Salk Supercharged Song towers ( difficult choice between these and my family if I had to choose ... 😩 ) , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN RIG

    PS Audio S300 - sitting in the closet for now …

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - PATIO
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  • PSOVLSK
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    Glad you found it before you purchased new stuff. I always seem to find my hidden/forgotten stuff after the fact.
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  • gyosa
    gyosa Posts: 699
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    Anyone know which kimber is the better stuff ?
    Looking at their website , looks like the black/grey is - assuming it's the same stuff...
    Both are 8 strands .
    Bk
    Dayens Ampino , Yamaha wxc-50 , Polk SDA 1c’s ( my first love .. ) , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 42” - BEDROOM

    B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL

    Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Salk Supercharged Song towers ( difficult choice between these and my family if I had to choose ... 😩 ) , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN RIG

    PS Audio S300 - sitting in the closet for now …

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - PATIO
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  • focus_folks_focus
    focus_folks_focus Posts: 1
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    +1 for Monoprice -- You don't need to spend more than Monoprice for speaker cables.

    +1 for Blue Jeans cable, when it comes to interconnects.
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  • EndersShadow
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    Black Gray Kimber is VS
    Black Brown Kimber is PR

    VS > PR
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    focus_folks_focus wrote: »
    +1 for Monoprice -- You don't need to spend more than Monoprice for speaker cables.

    +1 for Blue Jeans cable, when it comes to interconnects.

    Yeah right, and all you need is a Yugo for a car too.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,971
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    tonyb wrote: »
    focus_folks_focus wrote: »
    +1 for Monoprice -- You don't need to spend more than Monoprice for speaker cables.

    +1 for Blue Jeans cable, when it comes to interconnects.

    Yeah right, and all you need is a Yugo for a car too.

    Don’t forget miller light for beer and a jug of burgundy for wine!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,092
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    rooftop59 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    focus_folks_focus wrote: »
    +1 for Monoprice -- You don't need to spend more than Monoprice for speaker cables.

    +1 for Blue Jeans cable, when it comes to interconnects.

    Yeah right, and all you need is a Yugo for a car too.

    Don’t forget miller light for beer and a jug of burgundy for wine!

    You don't know what you are talking about. All you need is Colt 45. Miller and the Jug are snake oil.
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  • SIHAB
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    the champagne of beer!
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,454
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    Actually Monoprice has stepped up some of their wire offerings
    https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33839

    The normal in-wall stuff is not bad. No, I didn't say great, just not bad. Better than Home Depot lamp cord.

    The clear jacket Monoprice stuff will turn green in 6 months to a year.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    In-wall speaker wire is more permanent which is why it should be a better quality cable. Your system over time evolves for the better I would hope, so why leave a not so great cable in the walls to run it.

    At least for the front 3 speakers, surrounds don't need great cables because they handle ambient sounds.
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    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
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  • BillDurham
    BillDurham Posts: 2
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    Blue jeans cheap, and neutral sonically, tight bass = CAT5. Have used for interconnects and speakers, also is a great internal wire. DH labs silver over copper 14 ga does many things very well, you could spend more and get less. Also I have used DH ic wire for tweeters, very very good. Small guage is fine unless you run at 50 watts all the time. OK so this is rhinestones on a jean jacket spelling out Jersey Girl.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,027
    edited September 2019
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    Strictly FWIW:

    I outgrew my CAT5 infatuation about a decade ago -- although there's still a little floatin' around here (e.g., inside my Duplex cabinets). Need to do something about that one of these days...

    Nowadays, I like this stuff -- though perhaps not for y'all with monstrous powered amplifiers driving low-sensitivity loudspeakers, though, I'll readily acknowledge.

    Belden 9497 (13 ga)

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    (borrowed image: https://cheaptubeaudio.blogspot.com/2017/04/l-japanese-497mkii-r-us-9497-click-pic.html)

    47715535421_e0e1c2eb9d_b.jpgDSC_4465 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
    (the sharp-eyed will espy CAT5 feeding the supertweeter in the photo of my Frankenaltecs' all-first-order XO above :# )
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  • gyosa
    gyosa Posts: 699
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    I’ve been using the Kimber VS (black / grey ) for the last month or so ....
    Sounds great ....

    Bk
    Dayens Ampino , Yamaha wxc-50 , Polk SDA 1c’s ( my first love .. ) , Kimber Kable 4TC, Sony 42” - BEDROOM

    B&K EX-442 ( it will go in my casket when I die ... ) , PS Audio 4.6 preamp ( old school , but it still jams on ... ) , Eversolo DMP-A6 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - POOL

    Parasound A21, Eversolo DMP-A8 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Kimber Kable 4vs , Salk Supercharged Song towers ( difficult choice between these and my family if I had to choose ... 😩 ) , Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED - DEN , MAIN RIG

    PS Audio S300 - sitting in the closet for now …

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - PATIO
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  • BDT
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    I've always had good luck with Signal Cables........
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