The “I miss George Grand” discussion.

So George and I didn’t get off to a good start. If you feel like searching through the bowels of Club Polk, somewhere there’s a thread when I first joined where he and I got pretty heated. Jesse had his back and it turned into a rather unpleasant intro to the group for me.

After I took a bit of pause and lurked around here for a while and figured out the groove of the place, I realized that I was being quite the jerk of a new guy, and really regretted the way I acted. I also figured out that George was a teddy bear masquerading as a grizzly.

So years later I sent George a PM apologizing for the way I acted, to which he replied “that was a lovely olive branch but I have no recollection of us ever having a fight”. So I sent him the link to the thread from 2005 and boy did we have a good laugh!

From that point on, we were buds. We realized that we were both from close by neighborhoods in Brooklyn, and got the chance to hang out in person in NJ.

I, like many others around here, probably bought a few hundred records from him, every dime of that money going to The Githens Center. Hanging with him in person and hearing why he was so supportive of Githens was very moving.

George left this world several years back, and Club Polk wasn’t the same without him.

I’m glad we had that fight on day one. Because my apology for it created a great friendship, and I miss him a lot.

Hopefully a lot of you miss him too, so feel free to chime in....
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 4,965
    He was a great guy. He certainly is missed.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    I actually just found the PMs between us where I sent him the thread from 2005. The link is no longer valid. Probably a good thing!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    George was a few years older than me, old enough to have been a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. The Brooklyn Dodgers were before my time, I bleed Yankee Blue. So George and I used to argue the Jackie Robinson/Yogi Berra play all the time, where Jackie stole home in the World Series. Of course George insisted Jackie was safe, and I say he was out all day.

    So any time we would PM, George would sign off with “Safe”, me with “Out”. I definitely miss that banter. Hopefully George and Jackie have met up by now up there in the afterlife, and Jackie admitted to him that he was, in fact, out!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 21,220
    Miss him dearly. I never met the man but we did interact here and that is all it took. Like Cathy stated he was funny as all get out even when he was taking you to task for something he made you feel good, that's a sure sign of a great leader. The world was a better place with George in it but just think in the after life Mr. Grand (of the Jersey Grands) will be there waiting with more than likely with a great George Grand wise crack <3<3o:)o:)o:)o:)

  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    And George would be pissed off at me for writing that when he’s not around to argue!!!
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,055
    George was one of the best.
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,118
    edited January 2019
    I joined CP after George. Read the tributes and some of his threads. I was quite moved. Life’s journey, well travelled.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 12,385
    nspindel wrote: »
    And George would be pissed off at me for writing that when he’s not around to argue!!!

    He would probably call you a :p It was one of his hmmm descriptive words
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  • I was told by Mr. Grand on several occasions that I was going to h.e. l.l. for a couple of untowards posts made years ago.
    He said it in the Mr. Grand way such that I'm actually looking forward to that prognosis because that's the kind of classy broad that he was.

    ...... he'd probably add another "You're going to h.e. l.l." for that last statement, but that's okay.
    Mr. Grand was one of a kind.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,339
    George was a lot of fun. I think he and I took a few swings at each other over the years. It seemed like he would intentionally ruffle someone's feathers just to see what they were made of, and if they held their ground adequately, they would in-turn earn his respect.

    Unfortunately CP has lost a lot of the guys, George included, that made it a great place to be.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,481
    edited January 2019
    George was a great man. I never got to meet him in person, unfortunately, but he had a great wit and could rib you hard. At the same time he could build camaraderie like no other. He always stood for what was right. Period.

    I remember I bought 4 reel to reels from him a few years before he passed (The Graduate soundtrack, etc). He only accepted checks, NO PAYPAL for George. I sent him the check, and realized after I mailed it that I forgot to include shipping in the total. DUMB! I PM'd George and offered to send him another check and he said, "don't worry about it, justenjoy those tapes". That was the kind of guy George was.

    Edit: @nspindel, I remember that spat between you and George when you first joined. It is still fun reading....Lol!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 15,326
    I miss the days with George around, I still have have a box of vinyl I purchased from him that I have never opened.. I honestly don't remember what I ordered..
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    @headrott some things are better left to the dustbin of history!
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,381
    He was a cool guy. He was one of the older members that was fun to talk to. I also miss him as well as many others.
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  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,271
    My only interaction with George was kinda confrontational back in 2015. George took offense to me claiming to be a veteran because I only served 4 years in the Air Force but never in a combat zone.

    George was a combat vet, and I highly respect that, but I didn't care for him telling me that my 4 years didn't count.
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    Do not recall a Neil-spat, but can easily imagine it happening, hehe.

    Missing George here too. He did a lot of good. A big chunk of my vinyl came at a very reasonable cost thanks to GG.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    George is one of our fallen comrades whom I really miss.

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    I will take the liberty of quoting a post from Mr. Grand. If you didn't know him, this should tell you all you need to know about this remarkable man. Tiffany was his daughter.
    My beautiful daughter passed in October. We decided to go and visit my sister and brother-in-law outside Tampa for Christmas, just so we wouldn't be here with all the memories and baggage during the holiday. A couple days before our departure on the 23rd of Dec, Theresa told me to go look out our bedroom window. We have a potted rosebush right there. It was piled high with snow, and the temps had been frigid. ONE pink rose refused to succumb, and was right at the top, shining brightly. I looked at Theresa and told her "I can't leave her out there like that. She's coming inside." Theresa filled me in on how the bush HAD to go dormant sooner or later, the rose WILL fall off, and that's that. Fine, she can go dormant in here. We came back from Florida, and sure enough, a lot of the bush was going yellow and the leaves were falling off. But not my girl. She was still there. Moved her over to the window that gets sun all day, and started watering her. After about a month, everything stops turning yellow, and we start to get new growth. One of the heavy-hitter oncologists where Theresa works, a Dr. Weinstein, is the ROSEMAN. Grows them, studies them, blah blah blah. "Tell George it is near impossible to get the roses to bloom indoors. New growth? yes. Roses blooming? No." Dr. Weinstein didn't know Tiff well enough. In early Feb, a bunch of rosebuds started to show up. About a hundred I'd say.

    Now for a little background.......When we first found out about Tiffany and her problems at age 2 1/2, we decided to make her ours (Took me all of 5 seconds). We filed the paperwork, and the wheels slowly turned. For a couple months, everytime we had her for a weekend, we always had to bring her back cause the paperwork had not gone through yet. It sucked, but finally on 26 February 1988, Tiffany came home to HER HOUSE, and never had to leave again. So in addition to her 11 June birthday, 26 Feb was always a big day to celebrate around here. So, what do you think happened on 26 Feb 2006? The first rose bloomed and greeted me when I got up in the morning, and there are about 10 more open now, and I'd say by Sunday, the other 90 or so will be in full bloom. That's my girl.

    I have images to post of both the new bloom and the original rose which still refuses to fall off, but the wonderful system we have here for managing attachments will not let me attach them. It keeps telling me I'm not logged in or some other horsesh!t. Well I am logged in, and the little box says I AM able to attach things. This system sucks.

    Post edited by George Grand on March 2006

    Good stuff. Thanks.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    My only interaction with George was kinda confrontational back in 2015. George took offense to me claiming to be a veteran because I only served 4 years in the Air Force but never in a combat zone.

    George was a combat vet, and I highly respect that, but I didn't care for him telling me that my 4 years didn't count.

    I suspect that was just him giving you **** to try and get a rise out of you. That was George!
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  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,271
    ^^ We left it amicably, but never had any other interaction, that I can recall. Always read good things about him, though.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 30,259
    He was, and I mean this in the most complimentary and positive way possible, a piece of work.

    He was also quite active, at least in the early days, @ audiokarma under the nom de byte "Toasted Almond".

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,506
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    George is one of our fallen comrades whom I really miss.

    wlbyhs56vea1.png


    I will take the liberty of quoting a post from Mr. Grand. If you didn't know him, this should tell you all you need to know about this remarkable man. Tiffany was his daughter.
    My beautiful daughter passed in October. We decided to go and visit my sister and brother-in-law outside Tampa for Christmas, just so we wouldn't be here with all the memories and baggage during the holiday. A couple days before our departure on the 23rd of Dec, Theresa told me to go look out our bedroom window. We have a potted rosebush right there. It was piled high with snow, and the temps had been frigid. ONE pink rose refused to succumb, and was right at the top, shining brightly. I looked at Theresa and told her "I can't leave her out there like that. She's coming inside." Theresa filled me in on how the bush HAD to go dormant sooner or later, the rose WILL fall off, and that's that. Fine, she can go dormant in here. We came back from Florida, and sure enough, a lot of the bush was going yellow and the leaves were falling off. But not my girl. She was still there. Moved her over to the window that gets sun all day, and started watering her. After about a month, everything stops turning yellow, and we start to get new growth. One of the heavy-hitter oncologists where Theresa works, a Dr. Weinstein, is the ROSEMAN. Grows them, studies them, blah blah blah. "Tell George it is near impossible to get the roses to bloom indoors. New growth? yes. Roses blooming? No." Dr. Weinstein didn't know Tiff well enough. In early Feb, a bunch of rosebuds started to show up. About a hundred I'd say.

    Now for a little background.......When we first found out about Tiffany and her problems at age 2 1/2, we decided to make her ours (Took me all of 5 seconds). We filed the paperwork, and the wheels slowly turned. For a couple months, everytime we had her for a weekend, we always had to bring her back cause the paperwork had not gone through yet. It sucked, but finally on 26 February 1988, Tiffany came home to HER HOUSE, and never had to leave again. So in addition to her 11 June birthday, 26 Feb was always a big day to celebrate around here. So, what do you think happened on 26 Feb 2006? The first rose bloomed and greeted me when I got up in the morning, and there are about 10 more open now, and I'd say by Sunday, the other 90 or so will be in full bloom. That's my girl.

    I have images to post of both the new bloom and the original rose which still refuses to fall off, but the wonderful system we have here for managing attachments will not let me attach them. It keeps telling me I'm not logged in or some other horsesh!t. Well I am logged in, and the little box says I AM able to attach things. This system sucks.

    Post edited by George Grand on March 2006

    That rose bush...man, what a kicker it was!

    I stopped by one afternoon in early March one year, about 2 years after Tiff passed. The rose bush was inside 'cause George took it in in the winter. When I got there, we had our greetings and I noticed that the rose bush wasn't outside yet and said that maybe it should be 'cause it's got buds on it. He blew it off and said those buds had been there since Valentine's Day.

    We did our thing, exchanged some gear and had some coffee. I was there maybe 2 hours, tops. When I was leaving, I said my goodbyes and started walking to my truck and George calls from the door and says "Hey Jahn! C'mere, lookit dis!" and points at the corner where the rose bush was. I look in and there is a single rose half bloomed like you get at the florist. George says "Tiff says hi!" with a tear in his eye.

    That was, like...whoa. Maybe coincidence? I dunno but George said later that was the only bloom on the bush until May when they put it outside in the warmer weather.
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  • vcwatkins
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,497
    Love George. If he called you "sweetheart" you were about to get a backside reaming from him...LOL What a character. George gave me a vintage Pioneer 8-track player FREE to put in my 70's mancave. He said it was his fathers, and he wasn't sure if it had ever been used. In George's memory, one day I will give it to another Polkie, with the same promise I made to George---it stays in the Polk family.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 21,220
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    George is one of our fallen comrades whom I really miss.

    wlbyhs56vea1.png


    I will take the liberty of quoting a post from Mr. Grand. If you didn't know him, this should tell you all you need to know about this remarkable man. Tiffany was his daughter.
    My beautiful daughter passed in October. We decided to go and visit my sister and brother-in-law outside Tampa for Christmas, just so we wouldn't be here with all the memories and baggage during the holiday. A couple days before our departure on the 23rd of Dec, Theresa told me to go look out our bedroom window. We have a potted rosebush right there. It was piled high with snow, and the temps had been frigid. ONE pink rose refused to succumb, and was right at the top, shining brightly. I looked at Theresa and told her "I can't leave her out there like that. She's coming inside." Theresa filled me in on how the bush HAD to go dormant sooner or later, the rose WILL fall off, and that's that. Fine, she can go dormant in here. We came back from Florida, and sure enough, a lot of the bush was going yellow and the leaves were falling off. But not my girl. She was still there. Moved her over to the window that gets sun all day, and started watering her. After about a month, everything stops turning yellow, and we start to get new growth. One of the heavy-hitter oncologists where Theresa works, a Dr. Weinstein, is the ROSEMAN. Grows them, studies them, blah blah blah. "Tell George it is near impossible to get the roses to bloom indoors. New growth? yes. Roses blooming? No." Dr. Weinstein didn't know Tiff well enough. In early Feb, a bunch of rosebuds started to show up. About a hundred I'd say.

    Now for a little background.......When we first found out about Tiffany and her problems at age 2 1/2, we decided to make her ours (Took me all of 5 seconds). We filed the paperwork, and the wheels slowly turned. For a couple months, everytime we had her for a weekend, we always had to bring her back cause the paperwork had not gone through yet. It sucked, but finally on 26 February 1988, Tiffany came home to HER HOUSE, and never had to leave again. So in addition to her 11 June birthday, 26 Feb was always a big day to celebrate around here. So, what do you think happened on 26 Feb 2006? The first rose bloomed and greeted me when I got up in the morning, and there are about 10 more open now, and I'd say by Sunday, the other 90 or so will be in full bloom. That's my girl.

    I have images to post of both the new bloom and the original rose which still refuses to fall off, but the wonderful system we have here for managing attachments will not let me attach them. It keeps telling me I'm not logged in or some other horsesh!t. Well I am logged in, and the little box says I AM able to attach things. This system sucks.

    Post edited by George Grand on March 2006

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 21,220
    nspindel wrote: »
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    My only interaction with George was kinda confrontational back in 2015. George took offense to me claiming to be a veteran because I only served 4 years in the Air Force but never in a combat zone.

    George was a combat vet, and I highly respect that, but I didn't care for him telling me that my 4 years didn't count.

    I suspect that was just him giving you **** to try and get a rise out of you. That was George!

    agree and to just see if you had enough "salt" in your britches.
    :D:D:D
  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,271
    edited January 2019
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    nspindel wrote: »
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    My only interaction with George was kinda confrontational back in 2015. George took offense to me claiming to be a veteran because I only served 4 years in the Air Force but never in a combat zone.

    George was a combat vet, and I highly respect that, but I didn't care for him telling me that my 4 years didn't count.

    I suspect that was just him giving you **** to try and get a rise out of you. That was George!

    agree and to just see if you had enough "salt" in your britches.
    :D:D:D

    I don't know if I was "salty" or not, but our exchange was at the end of this post -

    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/comment/2181310#Comment_2181310

    His original comment wasn't directed at me, i just took exception to the comment. Which wasn't "a fact jack".