A new friend and his setup

Back when I attended the California Audio Show in July of last year, a gentlemen started a conversation with me in the hallway near the end of day 2. He had heard the record I brought with being played on our favorite setup at the show, the Margules room.

We seemed to have a lot to talk about, and ended up exchanging numbers the next day when we ran into each other on the final day of the show. We'd been texting and keeping in touch for a while, mostly talking about music and gear but also life in general.

He seemed to be getting more into the audiophile side of things after the show, going to a few local meetups, as well as a demo of the Wilson Sasha put on by a dealer!

He invited me over to check out his system and I took him up on the offer last weekend. It turned out to be a great experience and it was incredibly insightful to hear another setup after only listening to my own for months! Talk about changing your perspective! Very cool.

Afterward, he mentioned he was apprehensive of what I would think of his setup, since he knows I am way more into the gear side of things than he is. His setup is B&W Nautilus 803 towers, powered by a Bryston 5B ST, and also a 18" powered Bag End subwoofer. An oldschool Lexicon preamp acted as the control center. I took a look and saw 12ga zip cord and Monster Cable interconnects. I held my tongue, although of course with someone like me who's deep into the "cables matter" mentality, I was squirming a bit on the inside.

I let my preconceived notions go, and sat down in the sweet spot with an open mind to take a listen - through a circa 1990s Toshiba DVD player! I just wanted to hear the system as it was, before I swapped in the Rotel RCD-1072 that I brought over for him to try out.

And guess what? It sounded great! Giant banana plant blocking the left speaker and everything! Just goes to show that you can't judge a book by it's cover. I liked what I heard and quickly realized this was going to be a fun day of listening. The B&W speakers were authoritative and presented a seamless wall of sound. In no way were they shrill or bright, as B&W speakers tend to get a bad rap for. The midrange was thick and palpable, voices and percussion sounded excellent.

Later on we played Tidal through his Elac Discovery music server and then switched over to vinyl which sounded the best to us. He played a few great albums that I hadn't previously heard, including Fleetwood Mac - Rumours, and Boston (self titled).

I left him the Rotel RCD-1072 with a pair of Audioquest Black Mamba II ICs, a Schiit Bifrost with Douglas Connection Bravo digital coax, and a Cambridge Audio 640p phono preamp to try out. And also a copy of the latest Stereophile for good measure.

He seemed slightly apprehensive and told me that he's "not a tweaker". I guess he doesn't get that excitement out of trying out new pieces of gear, and just likes what he likes. In a way this was refreshing to hear, as he really puts the music first, and the gear second. Something I'm sure that some of us wish we could do more often.

Anyway, what a great day of listening to new music and hanging out with a new friend! I highly encourage you to go hear a friend's setup if you've only been listening to yours for a while. It could be an enjoyable and ear-opening experience.

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Also, his animals seemed to really like me! :)

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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,297
    You’d never heard Rumours? Or Boston? Dude.....😳

    Seriously though - nice that you got to spend an afternoon with another audio enthusiast, that’s something I never get to do.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,007
    Great write up of your visit.

    That dog and cat can tell if a person is cool or not. They sense those things.

    I think the oxygen level in that room is high due to that plant, therefore your listening experience was heightened. Well those speakers and amp helped a little too I guess.

    I think I've heard the B&W speakers get really good starting with that model. Way above the 600 series I've read.

    I use to test speakers sound with that Boston album. A lot!

    I've heard great things about that "Rumours" album.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 9,960
    Lot o' rumours about how much Peruvian marching powder was gone thru during the recording of some of their albums.
  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,905
    edited January 2019
    Great review of your visit.

    Remember when I first heard the full Rumours album in 1977 going on a ski trip by car to Taos NM with some friends. I have loved Fleetwood Mac since then and they are great in concert.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,007
    edited January 2019
    I love Stevie Nicks' voice!!! A lot. <3

    "Edge of seventeen" is awesome. B)
    This is nice to read the words along with her voice!!!
    https://youtu.be/J48L9lVFfFY
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 2,954
    They certainly were a different band after the Peter Green era.
    I often wish there was somebody close by that would like to audition their gear or even swap to go for a test drive.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • JayMX
    JayMX Posts: 433
    daddyjt wrote: »
    Seriously though - nice that you got to spend an afternoon with another audio enthusiast, that’s something I never get to do.

    You're welcome to drive down and help me clean out this ol gal! But my Polks aren't as big as yours, so no making fun...
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    Tony M wrote: »
    I love Stevie Nicks!!! A lot. <3

    Fixed it for you! I do too! :D
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    Great recap of your visit Drew!

    Yes, indeed, hearing another person's setup is a great idea. I used to check out @SCompRacer setup and it was really eye-opening. Seemed like every time he made a change, things got better and better.

    The first setup of his that I heard featured the SDA SRS 2's and the bass on that setup was unreal. Pink Floyd's "Welcome to the Machine" was the first track he played. The initial thump from the machine was wicked.

    Not many people around here, unfortunately, for me to demo my gear or go hear their gear.

    Glad you got to hear the ELAC Discovery music server. I've tried pairing it with many DACs but, to me, the analog outs sound the best on their own.

    Thanks for sharing Drew! Love that beautiful black cat! Reminds me of my little buddy :)

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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 9,960
    muncybob wrote: »
    They certainly were a different band after the Peter Green era.

    I saw Fleetwood Mac in 1974 during the Bob Welch era, really good show. He replaced Peter Green, and right after I saw him he left to be replaced by Nicks and Buckingham. I liked the Bob Welch era Fleetwood Mac. He wrote "Hypnotized" from the "Mystery To Me" album in '73 IIRC, among many other songs. I also liked his solo work following Fleetwood Mac. Bob Welch's father was a Hollywood producer.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,874
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,874
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    I am chagrined! I cannot recognize this receiver :/

  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,492
    edited January 2019
    Awesome story!

    I started an audiophile club locally where we get to experience each others’ systems.

    It’s a great hobby indeed.

    We have about 20+ members now.
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  • JayMX
    JayMX Posts: 433
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    I am chagrined! I cannot recognize this receiver :/
    Didn’t mean to thread-jack but it’s a
    Pioneer SX-737. Needs lots of love!
    Current Collection: Monitor 4a (Peerless), Monitor 5B (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7b (Peerless), RTA15TL (SL3000), SDA CRS+ (194’s), SDA SRS 2.3TL, R100's, R200’s, R300 🤩
    Pairs that have passed through: Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 5b (SL2000) (3x pair), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10b (5x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, RTA 11T, RTA12c (194's), SDA CRS, SDA 2 (2x pair), SDA 2a, SDA 2b, SDA 1b, SDA 1c, SDA SRS 2 (2x pair), SDA SRS 3.1TL (198’s) (2x pair)...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,874
    JayMX wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    I am chagrined! I cannot recognize this receiver :/
    Didn’t mean to thread-jack but it’s a
    Pioneer SX-737. Needs lots of love!

    Well, that is extra embarrassing -- There's one of those upstairs here...
    no, check that, it's an SX-727 (previous generation). :p

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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Awesome story!

    I started an audiophile club locally where we get to experience each others’ systems.

    It’s a great hobby indeed.

    We have about 20+ members now.

    That was in Texas, right? Are you still there or have you relocated to Cincinnati?
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    I would love to do this is GA
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,492
    Still in Dallas area. Yep
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,492
    Had I moved I would’ve also tried to do it in Cinci
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,002
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I guess he doesn't get that excitement out of trying out new pieces of gear, and just likes what he likes. In a way this was refreshing to hear, as he really puts the music first, and the gear second. Something I'm sure that some of us wish we could do more often. I often wish I were like this.

    I highly encourage you to go hear a friend's setup if you've only been listening to yours for a while. It could be an enjoyable and ear-opening experience. Agreed

    Sounds like a great time. Enjoyed the write up.
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    Why do Americans wear shoes in the house? So weird!
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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 325
    Speaking of the wiring, I like the clean install. I'm trying to visualize exactly how the right speaker wiring goes around the doorway. I'm guessing it's a closet door, and so it doesn't matter if it's exposed on the other side. He just needs a wire cover for the tv cables.
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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 325
    dromunds wrote: »
    Lot o' rumours about how much Peruvian marching powder was gone thru during the recording of some of their albums.

    Rumour confirmed. I know I've seen the Behind the Music interview when Stevie talks about introducing it to the band. Before that it was just her habit. Then they basically lived in the studio, hardly ever sleeping. Their budget was being eaten up by non-stop mountains flake. That's how they did Rumours.
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,465
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    Why do Americans wear shoes in the house? So weird!

    Because my plantar fasciitis hurts like hell if I go barefoot!
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,525
    sponger wrote: »
    Speaking of the wiring, I like the clean install. I'm trying to visualize exactly how the right speaker wiring goes around the doorway. I'm guessing it's a closet door, and so it doesn't matter if it's exposed on the other side. He just needs a wire cover for the tv cables.

    The speaker cable for the right channel actually goes under the floor before it feeds back to the amp.
  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    Tony M wrote: »
    I love Stevie Nicks' voice!!! A lot. <3

    "Edge of seventeen" is awesome. B)
    This is nice to read the words along with her voice!!!
    https://youtu.be/J48L9lVFfFY


    This song was developed when Stevie asked Tom Petty's wife when they met - her answer was at the age of seventeen.
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