A new friend and his setup

Back when I attended the California Audio Show in July of last year, a gentlemen started a conversation with me in the hallway near the end of day 2. He had heard the record I brought with being played on our favorite setup at the show, the Margules room.

We seemed to have a lot to talk about, and ended up exchanging numbers the next day when we ran into each other on the final day of the show. We'd been texting and keeping in touch for a while, mostly talking about music and gear but also life in general.

He seemed to be getting more into the audiophile side of things after the show, going to a few local meetups, as well as a demo of the Wilson Sasha put on by a dealer!

He invited me over to check out his system and I took him up on the offer last weekend. It turned out to be a great experience and it was incredibly insightful to hear another setup after only listening to my own for months! Talk about changing your perspective! Very cool.

Afterward, he mentioned he was apprehensive of what I would think of his setup, since he knows I am way more into the gear side of things than he is. His setup is B&W Nautilus 803 towers, powered by a Bryston 5B ST, and also a 18" powered Bag End subwoofer. An oldschool Lexicon preamp acted as the control center. I took a look and saw 12ga zip cord and Monster Cable interconnects. I held my tongue, although of course with someone like me who's deep into the "cables matter" mentality, I was squirming a bit on the inside.

I let my preconceived notions go, and sat down in the sweet spot with an open mind to take a listen - through a circa 1990s Toshiba DVD player! I just wanted to hear the system as it was, before I swapped in the Rotel RCD-1072 that I brought over for him to try out.

And guess what? It sounded great! Giant banana plant blocking the left speaker and everything! Just goes to show that you can't judge a book by it's cover. I liked what I heard and quickly realized this was going to be a fun day of listening. The B&W speakers were authoritative and presented a seamless wall of sound. In no way were they shrill or bright, as B&W speakers tend to get a bad rap for. The midrange was thick and palpable, voices and percussion sounded excellent.

Later on we played Tidal through his Elac Discovery music server and then switched over to vinyl which sounded the best to us. He played a few great albums that I hadn't previously heard, including Fleetwood Mac - Rumours, and Boston (self titled).

I left him the Rotel RCD-1072 with a pair of Audioquest Black Mamba II ICs, a Schiit Bifrost with Douglas Connection Bravo digital coax, and a Cambridge Audio 640p phono preamp to try out. And also a copy of the latest Stereophile for good measure.

He seemed slightly apprehensive and told me that he's "not a tweaker". I guess he doesn't get that excitement out of trying out new pieces of gear, and just likes what he likes. In a way this was refreshing to hear, as he really puts the music first, and the gear second. Something I'm sure that some of us wish we could do more often.

Anyway, what a great day of listening to new music and hanging out with a new friend! I highly encourage you to go hear a friend's setup if you've only been listening to yours for a while. It could be an enjoyable and ear-opening experience.

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Also, his animals seemed to really like me! :)

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"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
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  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,506
  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,096
    You’d never heard Rumours? Or Boston? Dude.....😳

    Seriously though - nice that you got to spend an afternoon with another audio enthusiast, that’s something I never get to do.
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

    Currently enjoying: Legacy Focus 20/20, McCormack DNA 225, Bill D C1, Oppo 105
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,366
    Great write up of your visit.

    That dog and cat can tell if a person is cool or not. They sense those things.

    I think the oxygen level in that room is high due to that plant, therefore your listening experience was heightened. Well those speakers and amp helped a little too I guess.

    I think I've heard the B&W speakers get really good starting with that model. Way above the 600 series I've read.

    I use to test speakers sound with that Boston album. A lot!

    I've heard great things about that "Rumours" album.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,363
    Lot o' rumours about how much Peruvian marching powder was gone thru during the recording of some of their albums.
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 657
    edited January 4
    Great review of your visit.

    Remember when I first heard the full Rumours album in 1977 going on a ski trip by car to Taos NM with some friends. I have loved Fleetwood Mac since then and they are great in concert.
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,366
    edited January 4
    I love Stevie Nicks' voice!!! A lot. <3

    "Edge of seventeen" is awesome. B)
    This is nice to read the words along with her voice!!!
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 2,162
    They certainly were a different band after the Peter Green era.
    I often wish there was somebody close by that would like to audition their gear or even swap to go for a test drive.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, Marantz UD7007, modded Polk SDA 2B.
  • JayMXJayMX Posts: 243
    daddyjt wrote: »
    Seriously though - nice that you got to spend an afternoon with another audio enthusiast, that’s something I never get to do.

    You're welcome to drive down and help me clean out this ol gal! But my Polks aren't as big as yours, so no making fun...
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    Current Collection:
    Monitor 4a (Peerless), Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL2000), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s, Dynamat, Sonicaps, Mills, H-nuts), SDA CRS+ (SL2000), RTA12c (194's), SDA SRS 2 (SL2000)

    Repair pile: SRS 3.1TL (198’s), RTA 11T's, (1) lonely RTA 11TL to become a center channel... someday...

    Pairs that have passed through:
    Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10c (3x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, SDA2, SDA2a, SDA1b, SDA SRS2

    ...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
  • halohalo Posts: 5,279
    Great recap of your visit Drew!

    Yes, indeed, hearing another person's setup is a great idea. I used to check out @SCompRacer setup and it was really eye-opening. Seemed like every time he made a change, things got better and better.

    The first setup of his that I heard featured the SDA SRS 2's and the bass on that setup was unreal. Pink Floyd's "Welcome to the Machine" was the first track he played. The initial thump from the machine was wicked.

    Not many people around here, unfortunately, for me to demo my gear or go hear their gear.

    Glad you got to hear the ELAC Discovery music server. I've tried pairing it with many DACs but, to me, the analog outs sound the best on their own.

    Thanks for sharing Drew! Love that beautiful black cat! Reminds me of my little buddy :)

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  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,363
    muncybob wrote: »
    They certainly were a different band after the Peter Green era.

    I saw Fleetwood Mac in 1974 during the Bob Welch era, really good show. He replaced Peter Green, and right after I saw him he left to be replaced by Nicks and Buckingham. I liked the Bob Welch era Fleetwood Mac. He wrote "Hypnotized" from the "Mystery To Me" album in '73 IIRC, among many other songs. I also liked his solo work following Fleetwood Mac. Bob Welch's father was a Hollywood producer.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,578
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,578
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    I am chagrined! I cannot recognize this receiver :/

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,083
    edited January 4
    Awesome story!

    I started an audiophile club locally where we get to experience each others’ systems.

    It’s a great hobby indeed.

    We have about 20+ members now.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • JayMXJayMX Posts: 243
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    I am chagrined! I cannot recognize this receiver :/
    Didn’t mean to thread-jack but it’s a
    Pioneer SX-737. Needs lots of love!
    Current Collection:
    Monitor 4a (Peerless), Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL2000), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s, Dynamat, Sonicaps, Mills, H-nuts), SDA CRS+ (SL2000), RTA12c (194's), SDA SRS 2 (SL2000)

    Repair pile: SRS 3.1TL (198’s), RTA 11T's, (1) lonely RTA 11TL to become a center channel... someday...

    Pairs that have passed through:
    Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10c (3x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, SDA2, SDA2a, SDA1b, SDA SRS2

    ...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,578
    JayMX wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    I am chagrined! I cannot recognize this receiver :/
    Didn’t mean to thread-jack but it’s a
    Pioneer SX-737. Needs lots of love!

    Well, that is extra embarrassing -- There's one of those upstairs here...
    no, check that, it's an SX-727 (previous generation). :p

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  • halohalo Posts: 5,279
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Awesome story!

    I started an audiophile club locally where we get to experience each others’ systems.

    It’s a great hobby indeed.

    We have about 20+ members now.

    That was in Texas, right? Are you still there or have you relocated to Cincinnati?
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,705
    I would love to do this is GA
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,083
    Still in Dallas area. Yep
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,083
    Had I moved I would’ve also tried to do it in Cinci
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • PSOVLSKPSOVLSK Posts: 4,140
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I guess he doesn't get that excitement out of trying out new pieces of gear, and just likes what he likes. In a way this was refreshing to hear, as he really puts the music first, and the gear second. Something I'm sure that some of us wish we could do more often. I often wish I were like this.

    I highly encourage you to go hear a friend's setup if you've only been listening to yours for a while. It could be an enjoyable and ear-opening experience. Agreed

    Sounds like a great time. Enjoyed the write up.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,887
    Why do Americans wear shoes in the house? So weird!
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,705
    Lmao!! ^
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • spongersponger Posts: 325
    Speaking of the wiring, I like the clean install. I'm trying to visualize exactly how the right speaker wiring goes around the doorway. I'm guessing it's a closet door, and so it doesn't matter if it's exposed on the other side. He just needs a wire cover for the tv cables.
    Denon AVR 3312CI
    S15
    Sony 790S
    Denon DP 300f
  • spongersponger Posts: 325
    dromunds wrote: »
    Lot o' rumours about how much Peruvian marching powder was gone thru during the recording of some of their albums.

    Rumour confirmed. I know I've seen the Behind the Music interview when Stevie talks about introducing it to the band. Before that it was just her habit. Then they basically lived in the studio, hardly ever sleeping. Their budget was being eaten up by non-stop mountains flake. That's how they did Rumours.
    Denon AVR 3312CI
    S15
    Sony 790S
    Denon DP 300f
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,492
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    Why do Americans wear shoes in the house? So weird!

    Because my plantar fasciitis hurts like hell if I go barefoot!
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,279
    sponger wrote: »
    Speaking of the wiring, I like the clean install. I'm trying to visualize exactly how the right speaker wiring goes around the doorway. I'm guessing it's a closet door, and so it doesn't matter if it's exposed on the other side. He just needs a wire cover for the tv cables.

    The speaker cable for the right channel actually goes under the floor before it feeds back to the amp.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • minerminer Posts: 1,271
    Tony M wrote: »
    I love Stevie Nicks' voice!!! A lot. <3

    "Edge of seventeen" is awesome. B)
    This is nice to read the words along with her voice!!!


    This song was developed when Stevie asked Tom Petty's wife when they met - her answer was at the age of seventeen.
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