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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    verb wrote: »
    Marantz SACD/DVD player. DV7600. Stock picture from Canuck Audio Mart. Only 1 hundie. Seems like a good deal. No affiliation.
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  • delkal
    delkal Posts: 764
    DSkip wrote: »
    I'm doing more research now as I had missed the tag under the socket. I've reached out to Gryphon as they should have knowledge of the current voltage setting for it.

    Until recently Gryphon did not have any US dealers and would not convert their products to 110v for the North American market. I found this exchange on another board from 2016

    "No, we have no US distributor. However we have US Service facilities"

    " No, we will not factory-direct sell a product for the North American market"

    " No, we will not permit European dealers to order 110V product intended for the NA market"

    " You may purchase a new or used 220V product in Europe , then ship it to us for 110V conversion at the factory but we will not ship it to NA, only back to the original dealer in Europe".

    So their amps can be converted to 110 but until now they would not do it to stop it from being sold in America. Apparently this has changed because now they show US dealers on their website. Who did the 110 conversion on this unit is probably not known.

    This was originally a $10,000 amp and it weighs over 150 lbs. Besides the discoloration on the top I don't see anything else to say its beat. I did read these run extremely hot so that is probably why the top is stained.
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    la2vegas wrote: »

    I think I read somewhere there were 2 versions of the Silver 7's. One Superb and one just OK. Am I right?
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,288
    One was tube one was not.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    OMG this was the very first system in my youth. Back in high school, had em hooked up to a pair of Pioneer HPM 40's! Nostagia? Tempting. :smile:
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    erniejade wrote: »
    One was tube one was not.

    Is the one for sale a tube version ? The label says tube amplifier.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    erniejade wrote: »
    One was tube one was not.

    Tubed silver 7
    And the SS monos came in
    Silver 7
    Silver 9
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,288
    Tony M wrote: »
    erniejade wrote: »
    One was tube one was not.

    Is the one for sale a tube version ? The label says tube amplifier.

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    I believe this is the tube version.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    Yep. Says Carver on the name plate. That's what I thought they looked like. MASSIVE!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    edited December 2018
    erniejade wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    erniejade wrote: »
    One was tube one was not.

    Is the one for sale a tube version ? The label says tube amplifier.

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    I believe this is the tube version.

    That is the one to have. Dream gear right there.

    The label says
    Vacuum tube transfer function for the SS mono bloc's
  • delkal
    delkal Posts: 764
    edited December 2018
    erniejade wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    erniejade wrote: »
    One was tube one was not.

    Is the one for sale a tube version ? The label says tube amplifier.

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    I believe this is the tube version.

    Very nice! But that is a lot of tubes. I guess you enjoy it till the original tubes wear out then throw it away!

    I wonder how many people tube roll with this amp.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    edited December 2018
    delkal wrote: »
    erniejade wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    erniejade wrote: »
    One was tube one was not.

    Is the one for sale a tube version ? The label says tube amplifier.

    utn4qaq04lh5.jpg



    I believe this is the tube version.

    Very nice! But that is a lot of tubes. I guess you enjoy it till the original tubes wear out then throw it away!

    I wonder how many people tube roll with this amp.

    Tubes last a good long time. Bob had a circuit that made them run at about half of their max yet got all he needed out of them.
    Besides most power tubes you do not roll, I believe that is the signal tubes you mostly roll. That set has 4 in each. Your preamp tube rolling may be more beneficial.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    Hard to tube roll a Pass Labs X1. :p

    I have found that swapping out the Tung Sol signal tubes in my amps was a good move. I run early 60’s Bugle Boys and the sound improved dramatically over the original tubes.
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  • Dabutcher
    Dabutcher Posts: 2,588
    Beast of an amp. Do not know if good price or not? Peace. D
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  • Rich502
    Rich502 Posts: 146
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Polk ls90's, looks like they're in ok condition not great but only a hundred bucks. No affiliation. aebwydn6sj5l.jpghttps://yuma.craigslist.org/for/d/polk-audio/6762472121.html

    I'm surprised these are still available.
  • Rich502
    Rich502 Posts: 146
    CGTIII wrote: »
    Carver TFM-35x. Bidding at $127 plus reasonable shipping with 2.5 days to go.
    https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/61045580
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    Being that the lettering has rubbed off, surprised the lights on the meters are still functioning.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    edited December 2018
    Do a search there was just a pretty good discussion/thread on that very model
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    edited December 2018
    No. The grills were nailed on. The tweeters are a lot cleaner than this one.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    No. The grills were nailed on. The tweeters are a lot cleaner than this POS.

    Tony, you know you're vintage speakers. What might those AR's be worth in their current condition? Supposedly they have upgraded crossovers.

    A lot less than they're asking
  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    No way. They better be posting some cash on their end as well.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    FestYboy wrote: »
    No way. They better be posting some cash on their end as well.

    Lots of cash
    La2vegas have you smoked yourself stupid.....?
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,517
    I was blessed enough to hear a set of AR-11s (I think). Outside they looked mint, but driver wise they looked funky as he11 but sounded awesome!

    They are on my list to own.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    This is more like it .^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Price too.

    I don't see them come up for sale much but lately they're everywhere.

    I've never heard a pair of this model but I did own a pr. of the 3x's and like a dummy, I got the grill off, saw the deteriated woofer surround and strange mid and tweeter. I tested them and I don't believe the mids or tweeters worked and I tossed them in the trash. :s The cabinets were ROUGH! But they could've been refinished for sure.

    I paid 6.00 for the pair at a Goodwill store about 15 years ago. :)
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 2,987
    edited December 2018
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Are these any good. AR 2ax?powpc01n91tw.jpg
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    I got a pair of AR-2ax a couple of weeks ago, and have been working on them, so can give some fresh perspective. Those look different in a couple of ways.

    Here is a pic from the CL listing that MotorHead provided, and these look like mine.
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    The woofer in that first pair looks like a replacement. It looks to have a fairly new foam surround, the cone looks new, voice coil leads are located in a different spot (notice in the third pic the leads - little dots - are located on opposite sides of the dust cap), it's also missing the little foam ring around the dust cap, and the frame is black instead of brushed, raw metal like shown in the third pic.

    I think there were two types of tweeters used in the 2ax: phenolic dome and soft/textile dome. The tweeter in the first pic must be the phenolic black dome, and notice it has three little orange points around the edge, whereas the tweeter in the lower pic has four of those points and the brownish textile dome. The mountings are different as well with three flat-head screws in the first versus six counter-sunk screws in the latter.

    The crossovers in these speakers are pretty basic, with two high-pass caps (one for mid and one for high/tweeter), and then two potentiometers (mid and high). In the pair I got, the caps had been replaced (w/Solen), but the pots were still original and terrible. I replaced the pots. I also replaced the grills, and interestingly enough, the first pair above look to have the exact same replacement grills I got, which are nice...although that pic isn't so great, or maybe they already have some age on them.

    So, after fixing mine up, how do they sound? Well, there's no point in adjusting the mid and high pots to anything except all the way up. IMO, the highs roll-off too much otherwise. In fact, by-passing the pots altogether may be best, and I read how a lot of folks actually do that. Having said that, I think these sound pretty darn good for their age once the internals are updated. In a proper listening position (seated), they have a rich, warm sound, with enough detail in the highs to satisfy, and definitely not fatiguing or shrieking. While standing, you miss some of the detail in the highs. With two high-pass caps, you get a blending of the higher frequencies with the mid and tweeter, and the tweeter is not all that loud. The bass is warm and effective, but not all that defined. I have them hooked-up to a second system, and was doing an A/B comparison with a pair of Infinity Column II. Frankly, the Infinitys sounded much better to my ears at moderate-to-loud listening levels, but the ARs would be really nice at lower levels in a seated position.

    There was no fill material of any type in mine, and I wonder if they originally had any. Also, I wonder if a simple internal brace between the front baffle and the back of the cabinet would provide any benefit. The cabinet box has quite a bit of resonance, and can sound a little loose. The wooden stands are cool and retro, but of course they can wobble a bit on a hard floor, so you have to think that solidifying everything somehow would help.
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 2,987
    Happy to help. FWIW, in addition to my Infinity Column II, I also have a pair of RSIIIa, and RS5. If I were you, I would not trade your RS5B in any kind of deal for the AR-2ax. Got to love those Emit tweeters B)

    From a collectible standpoint, the ARs are really cool, get serious retro styling points, and sound ok. But for pure performance, IMO the Infinitys sound better. Hmmm...perhaps I should try my RS5B for a more comparable A/B as far as size.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    edited December 2018
    Here's a pair in Wilm. NC. for 200.00. :)
    Been here for 19 days now.

    https://wilmington.craigslist.org/ele/d/vintage-ar-2x-floor-speakers/6754746695.html
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 2,987
    Not to split hairs or anything, but those ^^^ are 2x, not 2ax ;) They will not have the 'super tweeter' as it was known.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,517
    Thank god I’m not close. I still want one of these, or to build one similar...
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