Metallica 'Black Album' Hi Rez on HDTracks

AsSiMiLaTeD
AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,695
edited July 2013 in Music & Movies
I was browsing the "50 must have albums" list on HDTracks this morning and saw the Black album on the list in 24/96. Has anyone listened to it, know if it's any good?

That list they've generated is kinda worthless because some of the stuff on there I KNOW is bad and not well recorded, so it kinda invalidates the list in general and I don't know what to trust on there.

If anyone has any input on this album I'd appreciate, don't wanna blow $18 if it's not any good.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,695
    edited August 2011
    Posted too soon, shoulda googled first, found my answer:

    http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Metallica-Black-Album-HDTracks-Download

    Summary, it's not very good
  • rtart
    rtart Posts: 750
    edited August 2011
    I've got it on disc. DVD-A I think. I like the mix and have enjoyed it a lot over the years.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited August 2011
    Wow.Great information.I was just looking at this on HDTracks last night wondering the same thing.
    Weird.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,206
    edited August 2011
    HD tracks is hot , getting Metallica is even hotter. What are you currently using as a DAC and player?
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited August 2011
    Generally, HD Tracks is awesome. I paid 10Audio's Jerry S. to copy some vinyl for me on to HiRez 192/24. It is amazing! I have no need for the 24/96, including this album. As an aside, the good ol' Black Album CD is pretty well recorded to begin with.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 24,139
    edited August 2011
    I like the Black album a lot, but sadly it's pretty much unlistenable these days. Everytime I try to sit down and listen I don't get very far because of the very poor mastering. I can't imagine having in HD would make a bit of difference.

    H9
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2011
    The HD Tracks and DVD-A versions are definitely cleaner sounding than the original, but there's a little too much emphasis on the treble.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited August 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I like the Black album a lot, but sadly it's pretty much unlistenable these days. Everytime I try to sit down and listen I don't get very far because of the very poor mastering. I can't imagine having in HD would make a bit of difference.

    H9

    I'm going to have to dig out my CD and check. I don't remember it being that bad. I also remember Master of Puppets being a great sounding album . . . maybe I'm mixing the two.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 24,139
    edited August 2011
    I dunno, the Black album has no dynamic range and everything is squashed and sits in the mids and treble. I haven't pulled it out in years for that reason. I'll relisten too when I get a chance.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,695
    edited August 2011
    The general concensus seems to be that the regular CD sounds better than this new hir rez version
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 24,139
    edited August 2011
    The general concensus seems to be that the regular CD sounds better than this new hir rez version

    Wow, the Hi Rez must really stink then.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,277
    edited August 2011
    What did they do? Just upsample the original 44K/16 bit files, or do actual high res files exist?
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,695
    edited August 2011
    My guess is a vinyl rip, but I don't know
  • Righteye
    Righteye Posts: 4
    edited June 2013
    My little desk top system is not in the league of a lot of you guys but i find this recording to be pretty good. I know that my hearing ability at 53 has reduced especially in the high frequency range so a slightly "bright" recording suits me plus i'm not into thunderous bass ( my living arrangements do not allow for it either) below is a screen capture from audacity and it shows no clipping and has a lot of high frequency recorded.

    Screen shot 2013-06-22 at 09.35.12AM.jpg
  • billthornton
    billthornton Posts: 1
    edited June 2013
    metallica is such a great band, i have never seen them live.
    love master of puppets and most of the other songs.
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,069
    edited June 2013
    I saw Faith-Guns-Metallica in San Diego in the very early 90'S. What a concert! I know I am not mix master b but I enjoy the black album in it's original recording. No problems here.
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  • Righteye
    Righteye Posts: 4
    edited July 2013
    Since read that a lot of that high frequency can be digital noise so may be not so good as i thought.
  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,835
    edited July 2013
    I have an old copy of the original Black CD, I always noticed how the mix always seemed so compressed, especially Lars double bass kick drums.
  • BlueFox
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    Another first post spammer. LOL
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,649
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Another first post spammer. LOL

    Good call, @bluefox.
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 9,426
    Black Album. Gross.
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  • BlueFox
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    metallica is such a great band, i have never seen them live.
    love master of puppets and most of the other songs.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,150
    BlueFox wrote: »
    metallica is such a great band, i have never seen them live.
    love master of puppets and most of the other songs.
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    Here is a first post spammer from 5 years ago. I mangled the links.

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