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Metallica 'Black Album' Hi Rez on HDTracks

AsSiMiLaTeDAsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,717
edited July 2013 in Music & Movies
I was browsing the "50 must have albums" list on HDTracks this morning and saw the Black album on the list in 24/96. Has anyone listened to it, know if it's any good?

That list they've generated is kinda worthless because some of the stuff on there I KNOW is bad and not well recorded, so it kinda invalidates the list in general and I don't know what to trust on there.

If anyone has any input on this album I'd appreciate, don't wanna blow $18 if it's not any good.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeDAsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,717
    edited August 2011
    Posted too soon, shoulda googled first, found my answer:

    http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Metallica-Black-Album-HDTracks-Download

    Summary, it's not very good
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  • rtartrtart Posts: 754
    edited August 2011
    I've got it on disc. DVD-A I think. I like the mix and have enjoyed it a lot over the years.
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  • brgmanbrgman Posts: 2,868
    edited August 2011
    Wow.Great information.I was just looking at this on HDTracks last night wondering the same thing.
    Weird.
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  • mantismantis Posts: 15,956
    edited August 2011
    HD tracks is hot , getting Metallica is even hotter. What are you currently using as a DAC and player?
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  • SolidSqualSolidSqual Posts: 5,217
    edited August 2011
    Generally, HD Tracks is awesome. I paid 10Audio's Jerry S. to copy some vinyl for me on to HiRez 192/24. It is amazing! I have no need for the 24/96, including this album. As an aside, the good ol' Black Album CD is pretty well recorded to begin with.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,148
    edited August 2011
    I like the Black album a lot, but sadly it's pretty much unlistenable these days. Everytime I try to sit down and listen I don't get very far because of the very poor mastering. I can't imagine having in HD would make a bit of difference.

    H9
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  • FaceFace Posts: 14,714
    edited August 2011
    The HD Tracks and DVD-A versions are definitely cleaner sounding than the original, but there's a little too much emphasis on the treble.
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  • SolidSqualSolidSqual Posts: 5,217
    edited August 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I like the Black album a lot, but sadly it's pretty much unlistenable these days. Everytime I try to sit down and listen I don't get very far because of the very poor mastering. I can't imagine having in HD would make a bit of difference.

    H9

    I'm going to have to dig out my CD and check. I don't remember it being that bad. I also remember Master of Puppets being a great sounding album . . . maybe I'm mixing the two.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,148
    edited August 2011
    I dunno, the Black album has no dynamic range and everything is squashed and sits in the mids and treble. I haven't pulled it out in years for that reason. I'll relisten too when I get a chance.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • AsSiMiLaTeDAsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,717
    edited August 2011
    The general concensus seems to be that the regular CD sounds better than this new hir rez version
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,148
    edited August 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    The general concensus seems to be that the regular CD sounds better than this new hir rez version

    Wow, the Hi Rez must really stink then.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,656
    edited August 2011
    What did they do? Just upsample the original 44K/16 bit files, or do actual high res files exist?
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  • AsSiMiLaTeDAsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,717
    edited August 2011
    My guess is a vinyl rip, but I don't know
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  • RighteyeRighteye Posts: 4
    edited June 2013
    My little desk top system is not in the league of a lot of you guys but i find this recording to be pretty good. I know that my hearing ability at 53 has reduced especially in the high frequency range so a slightly "bright" recording suits me plus i'm not into thunderous bass ( my living arrangements do not allow for it either) below is a screen capture from audacity and it shows no clipping and has a lot of high frequency recorded.

    Screen shot 2013-06-22 at 09.35.12AM.jpg
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  • billthorntonbillthornton Posts: 1
    edited June 2013
    metallica is such a great band, i have never seen them live.
    love master of puppets and most of the other songs.
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  • SDA1CSDA1C Posts: 2,054
    edited June 2013
    I saw Faith-Guns-Metallica in San Diego in the very early 90'S. What a concert! I know I am not mix master b but I enjoy the black album in it's original recording. No problems here.
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  • RighteyeRighteye Posts: 4
    edited July 2013
    Since read that a lot of that high frequency can be digital noise so may be not so good as i thought.
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  • Polkie2009Polkie2009 Posts: 3,836
    edited July 2013
    I have an old copy of the original Black CD, I always noticed how the mix always seemed so compressed, especially Lars double bass kick drums.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,656
    Another first post spammer. LOL
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  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,717
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Another first post spammer. LOL

    Good call, @bluefox.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 9,204
    Black Album. Gross.
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    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,656
    billthornton wrote: »
    metallica is such a great band, i have never seen them live.
    love master of puppets and most of the other songs.
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    Here is a first post spammer from 5 years ago. I mangled the links.
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  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 5,137
    BlueFox wrote: »
    billthornton wrote: »
    metallica is such a great band, i have never seen them live.
    love master of puppets and most of the other songs.
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    Here is a first post spammer from 5 years ago. I mangled the links.

    Hope Ken kicks him off too! :D
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