Vintage Monitor and SDA Speaker Deals

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,499
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    TL = True Love

    What. No grammar correction??? Slipping...
    FestYboy wrote: »

    Oh common,
    erniejade wrote: »
    Thoes are not TL.

    ;)

    Swallow.
  • kmeekkmeek Posts: 225
    Well I got them. Now I didn't notice this until I got them home and have them right next to each other. They don't appear to be a matched set. I have the left and right speaker and they both appear to be TL's. The left speaker top and bottom caps are thicker than the right one and has more of a red hue to the oak where the right is more golden....

    Should I be concerned?

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,499
    Judging by the serial numbers, you have one TL and one non-TL, which may explain the height difference. Is the shorter one missing feet?
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 2,826
    edited April 2018
    It's also odd only one says "TL" with 5 us patents and not the other with only 2???
    Cambridge Audio 851N Streamer/DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
  • kmeekkmeek Posts: 225
    Viking64 wrote: »
    Judging by the serial numbers, you have one TL and one non-TL, which may explain the height difference. Is the shorter one missing feet?

    No the feet are on the shorter ones. It just appears the top and bottom oak panels are 1/4 inch shorter in thickness....

    Not too concerned about the minor appearance difference but I hope I don't have a TL and non-TL speaker.....
  • kmeekkmeek Posts: 225
    The guy said he bought them new in 91 as a close out from a stereo place here in Phoenix that was going out of business.....
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,499
    kmeek wrote: »
    Not too concerned about the minor appearance difference but I hope I don't have a TL and non-TL speaker.....

    The best way to be sure is to pull some of the drivers and look at the wiring harnesses and the crossovers themselves. There is a big difference as to how TL's and non-TL's are wired. At least with my 2.3's. I think the same principle applies to the 1.2's.
  • dkfreebirddkfreebird Posts: 1,130
    edited April 2018
    Pull the crossover plate out on the one that says 1.2 and see if it is has c or b printed on it..
    Post edited by dkfreebird on
    2 Channel
    Polk 1.2tl's Fully modded with dreadnought
    Rogue Atlas Magnum
    Rogue Magnum 66
    North Star Intenso Dac
    Auralic Aries Mini Streamer
    Marantz UD 7007
    Pangea PC
    Wireworld Equinox 7 interconnects
    Wireworld Equinox 7 Speaker Cables and Jumpers
    Home theater
    Marantz SR 5009-B&W Cdm1nt, Cdm Center Channel
    Backups Polk Monitor 5 peerless,2.3tl,SRS2 pin/blade,Polk Crs+ pin/blade with stands.McCormack Dna 0.5 Deluxe,Dared Sl 2000A,Dayens Ampino
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 17,510
    Viking64 wrote: »
    kmeek wrote: »
    Not too concerned about the minor appearance difference but I hope I don't have a TL and non-TL speaker.....

    The best way to be sure is to pull some of the drivers and look at the wiring harnesses and the crossovers themselves. There is a big difference as to how TL's and non-TL's are wired. At least with my 2.3's. I think the same principle applies to the 1.2's.

    Big difference in the 2.3 and 2.3tl as 2.3 used 3 different woofers.
    Not a big difference in the 1.2's are same woofers but different tweeters and slight difference in the xo.
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,998
    edited April 2018
    kmeek wrote: »
    Well I got them. Now I didn't notice this until I got them home and have them right next to each other. They don't appear to be a matched set. I have the left and right speaker and they both appear to be TL's. The left speaker top and bottom caps are thicker than the right one and has more of a red hue to the oak where the right is more golden....

    Should I be concerned?

    They sound great and I did not notice the differences when they were in normal listening positionrvnd99mfb8kv.jpg
    .

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    These look to have Larry's Rings, or at least Hurricane Nuts according to all the Hex Head Machine Screws, even the PR's.

    Have the X-Overs been updated as well?

    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,964
    Mine are TL, and start with 62xx serial numbers so you are good to go. This is the first I have heard to there being two different thicknesses in the end caps. Could be that Polk changed things on the fly, as they were known to do that back in the day. The other is that one of the two speakers had the caps replaced at some point.

    The good news is they are both TL's.... now let the mods and upgrades begin.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 505 SACD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

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  • verbverb Posts: 10,313
    Congrats @kmeek ! Looks like a fun project! Those speakers are what I aspire to have someday! Have fun! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cables, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,858
    Viking64 wrote: »
    TL = True Love

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,499
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Big difference in the 2.3 and 2.3tl as 2.3 used 3 different woofers.
    Not a big difference in the 1.2's are same woofers but different tweeters and slight difference in the xo.

    That makes sense. My 2.3TL's came from the factory with the instruction manual for the SDA SRS 1.2 and the SDA SRS 2.3.

    There was a loose, single-page addendum tucked inside the manual with the heading "Addendum to SRS 1.2tl and SRS 2.3tl Manual". The only difference shown in the diagram was the new layout of the 2.3TL drivers.

    The "Physical Specifications" for the 1.2TL were the same as the 1.2, save for the new tweeters. The 2.3TL listed the switch to 6 x MW6510, and of course, the new tweeters.
  • kmeekkmeek Posts: 225
    Mine are TL, and start with 62xx serial numbers so you are good to go. This is the first I have heard to there being two different thicknesses in the end caps. Could be that Polk changed things on the fly, as they were known to do that back in the day. The other is that one of the two speakers had the caps replaced at some point.

    The good news is they are both TL's.... now let the mods and upgrades begin.

    Thanks for the heads up. I can handle the minor cabinet differences. The cabinets are in excellent shape and I am stoked to finally get some SRS's let alone TL's...
  • krazypolkkrazypolk Posts: 757
    edited April 2018
    While searching through Craigslist I saw an ad for some ls70's for 140 dollars. Not sure if they are the sound that I like but they sure look nice. Any thoughts?yza4dfn8ovp6.jpg
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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,858
    I'd rock them in a heartbeat. I'd take a close look at the grill surrounds though and if there's damage, come in with a lower bid.
  • krazypolkkrazypolk Posts: 757
    Sorry but what are grill surrounds?
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,466
    edited April 2018
    The LS series had strange grills. Only the cloth portion was supposed to be removed.

    Millions(?) of LS speaker grills were damaged by us people trying to remove the grills like we were used too.

    BUT...those look like they were the old school style grills.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 17,510
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,858
    If you look closely at the lower photo, you'll see small holes to the outside of the rubber grommets that hold the cloth grill. Those are to locate the plastic surround for said grill.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,466
    I see them now.
    So they are probably broken.

    But for the money, I'd probably go look closely at them and see if the woofers move. ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,858
    Not all of them, note how the grill on the table stands off and the holes are very dark indicating that at least some came out intact.

    At the very least they're worth a look and listen.
  • krazypolkkrazypolk Posts: 757
    While reading up on this model, it appears that the ls70's are the least desirable of this particular line. I saw a lot of praise for the ls90 and the smaller ls50. Why so?
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,466
    edited April 2018
    They have smaller woofers.

    I was rocking my LS90's today. :D:pB)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • krazypolkkrazypolk Posts: 757
    Tony M wrote: »
    They have smaller woofers.

    I was rocking my LS90's today. :D:pB)

    I was just reading about your industrial rack and your cerwin vegas. It looks like you have quite a bit of gear

    Congratulations.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,466
    Thanks.

    Yep, there's quite a lot of audio history out there. And I sold 1/2 of what I had 1o years ago only to get more back. :s

    Yes, I've been told I have an amazing collection...OF A LOT OF STUFF. Good stuff too. B)

    A few have said it's a frikn GOLD MINE out there. :D

    I've also been collecting for a loooong time. ;)
    It's a curse too. :#
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 9,013
    https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ele/d/vintage-polk-audio-speakers/6574618271.html - Monitor M10 speakers - $200.

    Nice price... Maybe? Need to see the drivers

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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,466
    Clipdat wrote: »

    I wish you could go and audition them JUST to hear them! ;)B)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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