New TV prospects

Greetings all! And so, the upgrade bug is still with me. I'm looking to upgrade my current 49" LG 4K to something bigger and better. It does have HDR, but very basic and not HDR10 or WCG. I'm trying to fall under the following.criteria:

-Budget under $2000
-65" / 4K UHD / HDR10 / WCG
-40% gaming / 60% movies

I’ve come across the Sony XBR-65X930D and the Samsung UN65KS8000FXZA so far. Any other good recommendations?

Many thanks all!
Marantz SR5011 / Polk Audio Signature S55 towers / Polk Audio Signature S35 Center/ Polk Audio Signature S15 surrounds / Velodyne DPS-10 / Samsung 60" KS8000 / Samsung UBD-K8500
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 11,530
    Wait till Superbowl ads come out.
    After CES (Jan5th) Superbowl is used to liquidate out going stock for the new 2017 models
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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 133
    So the week of Jan 5th?
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  • Sony, all the way.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 11,530
    papatom wrote: »
    So the week of Jan 5th?

    Mid January-Superbowl
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,518
    Sony is killing it right now.

    My "budget" 55" 4k that I picked up for my 2ch room blew me away with its picture quality. I think it picked it up for $1k, it kills my buddies Samsung that he paid much more for.
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Rotel RB 1582 MKII : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Pro-Ject Debut Carbon with Acryl-It Platter :
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,173
    Yep, Sony would be my vote too. Paid 1100 for my 55 in. 850c 4k set and happy as can be with it. Coming off a Pioneer Kuro too, so that should say somethin'.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • I have a Samsung 4k UHD and it is great! I have heard Sony's picture quality is better however.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,416
    Sony tv all the way, their pictures just can't be beat. Well worth extra money.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 11,530
    Of course there are many levels and many budgets. One of the 1st flaws I look for when first walking in the door and looking at a wall of TVs is Tvs with brighter edges....This issue is "edge lighting" due to the technology used for the display
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 5,984
    Just read Sony is releasing two OLED TVs in 2017. We may want to wait!
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 11,530
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,518
    edited December 2016
    Just read Sony is releasing two OLED TVs in 2017. We may want to wait!

    Highly doubt they are going to come in under the $2k budget though!

    But I'm excited to see other companies getting into OLED. I will no longer buy anything made by LG.
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Rotel RB 1582 MKII : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Pro-Ject Debut Carbon with Acryl-It Platter :
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,705
    I would go for the Samsung 6300 70 inch 4 k with her and low millisecond response time for games at $750
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,705
    Apple auto fill! I am done editing everything I say and from now on just gona leave goofy posts lol.
  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 133
    Thank you guys for the suggestions! It's a toss up between the 930d and the ks8000; both 65". Going to take s lookie tomorrow night to compare.
    Marantz SR5011 / Polk Audio Signature S55 towers / Polk Audio Signature S35 Center/ Polk Audio Signature S15 surrounds / Velodyne DPS-10 / Samsung 60" KS8000 / Samsung UBD-K8500
  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 133
    Hey guys, I wanted to add in the OP but since you cannot edit it anymore, I want to say that I would be sitting approximately 8 feet from the TV.

    With that in mind, would a 60" suffice?
    Marantz SR5011 / Polk Audio Signature S55 towers / Polk Audio Signature S35 Center/ Polk Audio Signature S15 surrounds / Velodyne DPS-10 / Samsung 60" KS8000 / Samsung UBD-K8500
  • Legender
    Legender Posts: 478
    Check out this tool for determining size vs. distance.
    http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship

    Good site for all around good information as @dskip noted above.
  • Legender
    Legender Posts: 478
    Ok... went and played with the tool... I don't really agree with it. I don't think you need to sit as close as it recommends. But interesting still. I think it's personal preference. And some eyes are better, older, younger, worse, bluer than others. As always YMMV.
  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 133
    Thanks guys!
    Marantz SR5011 / Polk Audio Signature S55 towers / Polk Audio Signature S35 Center/ Polk Audio Signature S15 surrounds / Velodyne DPS-10 / Samsung 60" KS8000 / Samsung UBD-K8500
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,705
    I am screaming (need a 4K display) after getting a high end pic but all the experts have been saying to wait u til this years CES to pull the trigger. I want HDR and 70 inch with ultra low millisecond response time for gaming.

    DLP may get some goodies this year as Texas Instruments has invented a 4K chip so expect to see cheap... Errrrrr slp projectors hitting the market.

    How awesome would t be to get a 170 inch 235 aspect image on the wall in 4 k for less than $2000.
  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 133
    Went to Best Buy with the wife tonight and compared the 930d vs. KS8000. We were EXTREMELY impressed with the Samsung over the Sony. We shall see over the next couple days or week.
    Marantz SR5011 / Polk Audio Signature S55 towers / Polk Audio Signature S35 Center/ Polk Audio Signature S15 surrounds / Velodyne DPS-10 / Samsung 60" KS8000 / Samsung UBD-K8500
  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,367
    If you like the Samsung get it at Costco. Toss in the 5 year warranty for like $90 and don't worry.

    My neighbor had a 52" he got from there. 4 years later his wife somehow spilled water on it ad trashed it. One phone call and the next day the tech showed up and said yup trashed. Tech made a call, two days later FedEx showed up with a new 55".
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,173
    mrloren wrote: »
    If you like the Samsung get it at Costco. Toss in the 5 year warranty for like $90 and don't worry.

    My neighbor had a 52" he got from there. 4 years later his wife somehow spilled water on it ad trashed it. One phone call and the next day the tech showed up and said yup trashed. Tech made a call, two days later FedEx showed up with a new 55".
    mrloren wrote: »
    If you like the Samsung get it at Costco. Toss in the 5 year warranty for like $90 and don't worry.

    My neighbor had a 52" he got from there. 4 years later his wife somehow spilled water on it ad trashed it. One phone call and the next day the tech showed up and said yup trashed. Tech made a call, two days later FedEx showed up with a new 55".

    That's as good as it gets for warranty service. I'm surprised too because Samsung is not known for excellent customer service. Matter of fact, none of the brands excel at it.

    Costco however, is...they stand behind whatever they sell.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,367
    [/quote]
    That's as good as it gets for warranty service. I'm surprised too because Samsung is not known for excellent customer service. Matter of fact, none of the brands excel at it.

    Costco however, is...they stand behind whatever they sell.[/quote]

    For the Costco warranty, it not Samsung, the number goes to Costco.

    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,261
    Just be glad the Samsung doesn't explode. Between their phone and washing machine they have a pretty good PR problem, and it might lead to some good deals. Sort of like after Volkswagen got caught cheating on the emissions test. LOL. I have to admit that I did like that cheat. :)

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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,367
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Just be glad the Samsung doesn't explode. Between their phone and washing machine they have a pretty good PR problem, and it might lead to some good deals. Sort of like after Volkswagen got caught cheating on the emissions test. LOL. I have to admit that I did like that cheat. :)

    So did my boss, her VW had 120k on it and VW gave her 19K for it, she only paid $27k for it.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 133
    edited December 2016
    Alright guys, so after spending most of the weekend between two best buys, we've decided on and purchased the KS8000. We were ready to pull the trigger on the 930D, but in the end it came down to price and the small advantages the 930D had, just wasn't justifiable. Once we got home, we watched xmen apocalypse on 4K disc and were blown away. Very happy with our purchase.

    Only caveat is my wall mount kit only came with 20mm M8 screws and the Samsung requires 45mm M8 screws. Hoping Lowes or Home Depot have those.
    Marantz SR5011 / Polk Audio Signature S55 towers / Polk Audio Signature S35 Center/ Polk Audio Signature S15 surrounds / Velodyne DPS-10 / Samsung 60" KS8000 / Samsung UBD-K8500
  • tonyp063
    tonyp063 Posts: 861
    Only caveat is my wall mount kit only came with 20mm M8 screws and the Samsung requires 45mm M8 screws. Hoping Lowes or Home Depot have those.

    I have the same tv (Costco version) & I can tell you Home Despot & Lowes don't have the correct 8mm screws.
    Ace Hardware, however, *does*

  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 11,530
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    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • papatom
    papatom Posts: 133
    Quick update....Home Depot had 8M 45mm screws...only 3 of them. Identical to what came with my wall mount. Lowes had one, but it was 50mm. Since that one stuck out a hair, i used a 5/16 washer to really snug and secure it. Worked like a charm. TV is mounted perfectly.
    Marantz SR5011 / Polk Audio Signature S55 towers / Polk Audio Signature S35 Center/ Polk Audio Signature S15 surrounds / Velodyne DPS-10 / Samsung 60" KS8000 / Samsung UBD-K8500
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