Bad start to my day, thanks ups!

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  • mrbigbluelightmrbigbluelight Posts: 7,697
    Okay, I'm ignoring my own advice, but ..... in the other thread, you mentioned that the seller had put a PAIR of Martin Logan Summits in ONE BOX !! with nothing on the bottom !!
    Around 200 pounds of relatively fragile speakers in a BOX ?!?!

    Okay, you didn't know that this sellers version of "Secure Packing" was from another planet with lower gravity.
    But, as F1 mentioned and TX illustrated with amp packing, perhaps in the future you could have the seller send you pictures of how he packed your item(s) BEFORE shipping ?
    4 or 5 or 6 pics to give you assurance that "Secure Packing" means just that.
    If you approve, then the deal goes through. If not, then the deal is cancelled.

    I mean, shipping a pair of Summits in a BOX ? Cheese and crackers !

    Meanwhile, go ahead and ship those speakers to me, put in your claim with whomever, and I'll share your grief.
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,010
    I had a 6900. That does not look like the McIntosh Packing.
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,010
    Even if people don't like the McIntosh sound, the stock boxes are heavy duty and do not allow movement on top of heavy padding. My 402 actually bolts down to a sheet of wood!
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,094
    So what is damaged?
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  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 7,024
    You having the Amp shipped to the UPS hub was it no your intentions to inspect the package why would you just walk away with out inspecting the package?
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    edited July 2016
    Actually once the piece is on the truck for delivery it's pretty safe in most cases. I'd say (based on what my friend says who is a UPS driver) most damage is at the hubs and during transfer. It's rare that a driver would cause damage, possible? sure. But most damage happens early on in the journey.

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  • polkfarmboypolkfarmboy Posts: 5,724
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Actually once the piece is on the truck for delivery it's pretty safe in most cases. I'd say (based on what my friend says who is a UPS driver) most damage is at the hubs and during transfer. It's rare that a driver would cause damage, possible? sure. But most damage happens early on in the journey.

    H9

    Has anyone ever told you that you talk a lot of crap? If not then ... Your just spouting utter nonsense because I seen a driver smash up a pair of Martin Logan by throwing them off the truck and onto a dolly upside down despite the factory boxes being clearly marked on the orientation. Just because you spoke to one individual driver means nothing.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,586
    All I know PFB is that I have not purchased a single piece of my systems locally. 80% of it was 2nd or 3rd hand. I ship and receive servers(50-70lbs) and CCTV video equipment back and forth and all over from US/CA., with only a couple claims and those were racking hardware.

    So you are either FOS or just plain careless in the handling of your business.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    edited July 2016
    You want to put my credibility against yours PFB? Re-read, I said in most instances. Of course things like that can happen, but a good majority of the damage happens before the items are on the truck.

    Perhaps me saying "it's rare" was incorrect. So let's say it can happen, but not often.
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 2,535
    Can anyone pass the popcorn?
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  • mrbigbluelightmrbigbluelight Posts: 7,697
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Forum fight! Forum fight!! Wooooo!!

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  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 5,062
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Forum fight! Forum fight!! Wooooo!!

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  • mrbigbluelightmrbigbluelight Posts: 7,697
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  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,642
    Well speakers arrived smashed up too!

    And I'm going to guess you had those shipped to your house, or picked them up at the store but didn't open them till you got home right...

    OMG your sooooo lame? Your sense of humor makes me want jump off a bridge wearing beats head phones shouting BLM!

    So tempting.......would you also be wearing skinny jeans?
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  • footwedgefootwedge Posts: 475
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Forum fight! Forum fight!! Wooooo!!

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    Clearly fake...no skinny jeans.

    Need still shots of the green and black shorts.

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  • BetaBeta Posts: 263
    edited July 2016
    erniejade wrote: »
    the stock boxes are heavy duty and do not allow movement on top of heavy padding. My 402 actually bolts down to a sheet of wood!

    That was my experience as well erniejade. Mine came triple boxed and was bolted down on to thick plywood that was reinforced by 2 x 2s or 2 x 4s in the inner most box. The inside of the two inner boxes also had spray molded hardened foam that was encased in plastic wrap.

    I asked the entity I bought my amp from that I was prepared to pay more for packaging, if necessary. No one wants to waste money, but when it comes to having a 100lb amp shipped to me, I'd rather pay a little extra than have an unpleasant surprise. Lastly, I had my amp shipped to my local FedEx store.

    Sorry this happened PFB.

  • boston1450boston1450 Posts: 6,377
    I literally saw my UPS driver(s) drop a package(s) once a Yamaha receiver while getting out of truck. I was just coming out the door to meet him.... When i purchased it i asked the seller to pack it better & i paid him extra. I got on PP acct & sent him more $$$. That pkg fell 3 ft to the ground. I wasnt to happy. The good thing is where it was packaged right it did NO damage what so ever. If you ask me communication as soon OR before you buy something is the best was to assure you get your item damage free. Everyone pizz's n moans about shipping charges & how stupid fast your gonna get it. Id rather get it safe & im not gonna loose sleep if its 2/3 weeks. I got speakers here from Colorado & Arizona. I sure da heck aint gonna drive to Colorado for 130-200 dollars & shat i never took my slippers off.
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  • sucks2bemesucks2beme Posts: 4,890


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  • Dennis GardnerDennis Gardner Posts: 4,801
    I've seen damage happen just about anywhere in the shipping chain. I once had both forks of a lift penetrate through the back and front of a commercial standup cooler destroying the whole unit. They never came close to getting under it on the pallet. I never understood that one.

    PFB does have a shipping curse in effect, but he does buy more than anyone on here too. I'm just glad that he isn't into high end turntables....
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  • cmy330gocmy330go Posts: 2,334
    ...I seen...

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  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Posts: 1,596
    If the packing is good you will rarely see any damage from any of the carriers.

    Obviously the packaging for these items left a little to be desired if they all arrived damaged.
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,073
    Not again
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  • ken brydsonken brydson Posts: 7,524
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Not again

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  • gcegce Posts: 2,178
    You should have the seller email you pictures of how its packed before money is sent!
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  • minerminer Posts: 1,255
    All is not lost - get a replacement glass from McIntosh. And....learn from this experience.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,352
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Actually once the piece is on the truck for delivery it's pretty safe in most cases. I'd say (based on what my friend says who is a UPS driver) most damage is at the hubs and during transfer. It's rare that a driver would cause damage, possible? sure. But most damage happens early on in the journey.

    H9

    WRONG I watch our drivers UPS-FEDex daily get PO'd at boxes and start kicking and throwing them in the truck....I have even stated be very aware of your surrounding cause one of these days someone is going to record you doing this and your jod will be GONE...I have filmed them and turned it over to our UPS/FEDex rep. we got new drivers but it goes deep in the driver pool ....
  • ParadoxexParadoxex Posts: 196
    The "based on what my friend says who is a UPS driver" detail is kind of an important qualifier when the question is who is damaging UPS packages...
  • maximillianmaximillian Posts: 2,084

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    Wait... let's get back to a real issue. You have a version of this without the dudes, maybe with some mud too?
  • NotaSuvNotaSuv Posts: 2,701
    nice to see the BS posts alive and well. Opened box, dropped
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