Rogue M-180's on the way.
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Get a Vincent then! its a Hybrid Amp with tubes & SS that don't need adjusting, and its like the best of both worlds right? thats what I did
2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
A McCormack DNA 500 just popped up on audiocircle for sale.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=133865.0
2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources. -
A McCormack DNA 500 just popped up on audiocircle for sale
Thanks Trat, I just reached out to the seller .... We will see
Tony must be out of town on another extravagant wife's company paid vacation
What's a fair price for the DNA 500? . . . TYAC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
Pre Cary SLP-05
Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
Mains Salk HT2-TL
Rythmik F12 -
Trat- Congrats on some nice gear! I had the Rogue Stereo 90 at one point and really liked it. Although with the stock tubes, mine sounded too creamy and mushy for my taste. It was very responsive to tube rolling and with the right tubes it sounded excellent. Have fun!
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A McCormack DNA 500 just popped up on audiocircle for sale.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=133865.0
Must have been a solid. . . .sale pending . . . But not to me, boo, hooAC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
Pre Cary SLP-05
Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
Mains Salk HT2-TL
Rythmik F12 -
Certainly in the ball park on price. Sale pending already ? Figures....they don't come up for sale too often and for good reason. You may be able to find the middle child, the DNA-250 easier. Still powerful and has the same basic sound signature.
Wonder if JHAYMAN still has his, he had both at one point. I talked him into jumping on the McCormacks and haven't seen him since. Probably still trying to get his sack unglued from his face. lol
Glenn, what don't you like about the Rogue's ? Curious is all, have you tube rolled ? Connected gear and cables ?HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Glenn, what don't you like about the Rogue's ? Curious is all, have you tube rolled ? Connected gear and cables ?
No SQ issues what so ever. You keep mentioning the McCormacks, so the wheels started spinning!! But the Rogue metal case is thin and I'll be Dynamatting it. Also, if the M180s are rack mounted, you'll never see the beauty of the tubes. They are on the floor now and taking up precious real estate, lol
I don't think that there are output tubes that I can roll, but last xmas I replaced them all with matched Tung Sol KT120s from Rogue . . . which made a huge diff
I also replaced all the drivers with circa 1962 RCA 12AU7A grey plates (Thanks Faustin)
In the input driver section are some JJs that came with the unit and are the next on the list to be replaced. If anyone can recommend a replacement, I'm all ears!
Related equipment is Cary 98pre, MIT Shotgun SC & IC, Oppo 105, Salk HT2 & Furman
AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
Pre Cary SLP-05
Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
Mains Salk HT2-TL
Rythmik F12 -
Gotcha man, nice system btw you pieced together there too. The Rogues are nice amps, but tube amps do have their drawbacks for some.
Anyway, as long as your happy, rock on. Hopefully someone with more experience with the Rogues will chime in on some tube recommendations for ya.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Glenn, You might try some RCA, 3 Mica, Black Plate, D Getter 12AX7 or the 5751, these tubes play very nicely in my Rogue Cronus.
Another exceptional tube is the Sylvania 5751, 3 Mica, Black Plate from the 1950's. The 5751's have about 30% less gain than the 12AX7's, so you might keep that in mind. Only downside is they are not cheap!
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Thanks Mike,
I've got a couple of local-ish guys that I trust, but like you said Not Cheap!
ya git what ya pay for, right?AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
Pre Cary SLP-05
Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
Mains Salk HT2-TL
Rythmik F12 -
Thanks Mike,
I've got a couple of local-ish guys that I trust, but like you said Not Cheap!
ya git what ya pay for, right?
Well, yeah!
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Late to the party here but interesting reading. I have a McCormack DNA-1 and Rogue M120 Magnum monos. Both are superb amps, the DNA-1 is a tubelike SS and the Rogue is a SS-like tube. So even though there are differences they are not as obvious. The DNA-1 beats the Rogue at the extremities of the frequency range but the Rogue is better at the mids. I like pairing the Rogues with my Benchmark Dac-pre and the DNA-1 with a Dodd variable gain tube buffer-pre.
