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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,927
    correct - but not always (i.e., not all "new threads" are flagged as new, nor are all threads with "new posts".

    If there is a pattern, I've not discerned it... but, then again, I am not the brightest segment in the display! ; - )
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Kenneth Swauger wrote: »
    Hi Mark,
    Our contact at Vanilla is really great, she has answered all of my questions quickly and thoroughly.

    Then why do we still have this horrible red font?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    Hello,
    As I understand it the color scheme is designed to coordinate with what the rest of the complete new web site is going to have. The red and black colors of Polk's logo are reflected in the forum's colors.
    I use a Mac and the red seems fine, so maybe I'm not seeing the "horrible" part?
    Is it over-saturated? Describe what the color's problems are?
    Ken
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,927
    It's a perfectly ordinary red -- not any more or less horrible than any other reasonably reddish red, I'd opine...
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Kenneth Swauger wrote: »
    Describe what the color's problems are?

    It's RED. Red is a harsh color against a white background, and probably any other background. In our society, red is used to signify danger. It stands out. It isn't a pleasant color for the eyes.

    And what the heck does the logo color have to do with anything?

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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2014
    If you want to understand what red font does to your brain, hit the recent discussion tab so that you have a large area of threads in the main area and the smaller control tab area on the right. The red font on the main area is so bright and overpowering that it makes the white background look pink. Compare this to the smaller column on the right that has black fonts and you can easily see the differences side by side.

    This is what most are complaining about and you can see how this would cause eyestrain. It is really only an issue when all the fonts are red. It washes the page pink. The read font on an actual thread is reduced to names and tag headers, so it isn't too bad when reading large paragraphs or posts. It is the main thread page that is an issue.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    Hello,
    Okay, I think I understand the complaint and I'll pass it along. I have to say, I don't experience the same problem on both my computers. Nothing strains my eyes and I bet I read the forum for more accumulated time than anyone else. No background turns pink when I look at the main categories page, everything stays the correct colors. No eyestrain at all.
    Keep in mind, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm sure you're seeing what you see, but it's not that way for me. You see distortion, I don't.
    Ken
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2014
    It doesn't happen for me on the "Home" page that has the main categories either due to the black font subtitles that help break it up. It is the most evident on the page that pops up after you hit "recent discussions". The predominance of red on this page is overwhelming.

    For those just hanging out on the forums looking for the latest posts, this gets used as their homepage of the forum. That is how I use most forums that I visit.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,927
    Kenneth Swauger wrote: »
    ...
    Keep in mind, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm sure you're seeing what you see, but it's not that way for me. You see distortion, I don't.
    Ken

    substitute "hear" for "see", and this could come from any of ten million "audiophile" threads on the internet...

    ; - )



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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2014
    I think the other comment for PC users about having a widescreen option is valid too. With a widescreen option, when you zoom a page (control/scroll wheel) in Windows, the font actually decreases in size allowing for more thread title length to be seen. This makes the page very legible. In this current format, when you utilize the zoom feature, the font just gets increased with the page size and looks like a primary reading book from preschool. Titles remain the same length since we can't control column size as in vB.

    Using the zoom in widescreen allowed full titles of threads to fit on one line and thus gave you more thread titles to be viewed at a glance without needing to scroll. In vB I can see 20 threads at a glance, in this format, zoomed out, I see 7. You can see how this would make a difference for those that lounge around on forums watching for updates.
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,156
    I cant seem to attach multiple pictures they keep going away after I add the first one, it worked for me a while back. I also have issues with an I phone or I pod the screen flickers when scrolling up or down it takes several minutes to stop it seems to want to keep scrolling, it could be me but works fine on a Kindle Fire HD and my Samsung S4 no problems on laptop or Pc except today it wont let me add multiple pictures in a post.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    I liked the way the thread titles used to be bold, showing there is something new since last time you visited the site.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,927
    madmax wrote: »
    I liked the way the thread titles used to be bold, showing there is something new since last time you visited the site.

    Yes, indeed -- that would be a nice 'retrofit' to this forum s/w, if it were possible!
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I think most everyone has a wide screen monitor these days so why not take advantage of it - > feels like watching a 4:3 movie on a 16:9 screen just seems a waste.
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  • GospelTruth
    GospelTruth Posts: 403
    I think most complaints about the new format or appearance are legitimate. Selecting colors for a site can be a tricky business and you should apply some color theory when making choices. A good site is webdesign.about.com/od/color/a/aa072604.htm. I think after reading that you would concur that this bright red is not the best choice for a font color. If Polk wants to keep the red, complimentary colors on a website should be blue and yellow. Those colors are there on the main page in subdued formats. I have tried to give some examples with using the blue and yellow below.

    I did some manipulating with a page from this discussion. After saving the page to my hard drive and doing some simple stylesheet changes, you can see that things can improve with little effort.
    • I made the site able to resize for widescreen
    • Changed the font colors and styles
    • Added background to the breadcrumbs so they are easily visible
    • Changed fonts on the right navigation to not all be bold making it easier to read.
    • Changed the background color to a muted yellow with a different opacity.
    Not everyone may like what I did for this example, but you can see what can be done easily to make this site a little more appealing. Again, all these changes were made easily by style sheet changes, not one edit to the HTML itself. Why these things that users have been asking to be done have not is beyond me.

    Blue Font, Not Widescreen
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    Widescreen resized
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    Changed the text to a dark red instead of the blue above.
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  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    "GospelTruth" while your re-work is an improvement, it doesn't touch the many other basic problems.
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  • GospelTruth
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    I was not trying to fix all the problems that are involved in this new site. I'm just showing that some things that are relatively simple to fix are not even being done. What I did took more time to save the page and take screen shots than it did to actually make the changes to the stylesheet for some font colors and aesthetics some here find annoying. And while not all the functions are easy to figure out, what a person sees upon arriving at this site says volumes in my book. You can't just a book by it's cover, but most do. Same things for a website. Most people will judge it by first glance and see if it even looks professional or not. What I was showing was how simple it is to fix some of this visual issues that have not been tackled. That is all.

    Hopefully everything gets addressed at some point. I come here now and can tell that there are not as many people contributing as there were before this upgrade. That I find, is a shame.
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  • sprite
    sprite Posts: 1
    WOW this new forum blows. Looks like alot of good info lost! all links are broken WTF? Im out! Thanks Polk
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  • boston1450
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    edited September 2014
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,988
    sprite wrote: »
    WOW this new forum blows. Looks like alot of good info lost! all links are broken WTF? Im out! Thanks Polk

    After 1 post ? Buh bye now.

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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    sprite wrote: »
    WOW this new forum blows. Looks like alot of good info lost! all links are broken WTF? Im out! Thanks Polk

    As he/she states with his/her fist post.........
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,156
    Out with one post under your belt see ya:'( you Will be missed. ( NOT)
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    ken brydson wrote: »
    sprite wrote: »
    WOW this new forum blows. Looks like alot of good info lost! all links are broken WTF? Im out! Thanks Polk

    After 1 post ? Buh bye now.

    Beat me to it Ken. The premise remains though.
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,687
    I'm not surprised that a new member would react that way. I said it before, if I was a new member, first time visit, I wouldn't come back to this disaster either.
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    I've become acclimated somewhat. I realize changes have been made, some obvious, some under the skin, due to feedback, but you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
    Put another way, you can put lipstick and a party dress on a pig, but it's still a pig.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,992
    sprite wrote: »
    WOW this new forum blows. Looks like alot of good info lost! all links are broken WTF? Im out! Thanks Polk

    Says the guy with one post. I'm guessing we won't miss you..

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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,186
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    sprite wrote: »
    WOW this new forum blows. Looks like alot of good info lost! all links are broken WTF? Im out! Thanks Polk

    Says the guy with one post. I'm guessing we won't miss you..

    Too funny!!!
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  • EndersShadow
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  • quicksilvergts
    quicksilvergts Posts: 274
    I just want ALL the old links back for products, threads, showcase. If it takes vBulletin to restore that that I vote yes for "V". If not, well
    "It is, what it is" unfortunately.

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,687
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Compeltly?

    I didnt make it I just google'd man..

    PS IIRC you stole that from one of your friends...

    Hello there pot @ZLTFUL‌

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