Dreadnaught Avel-Lindberg 1000VA Transformer Group Buy?

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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Neil,

    Thank you, again. Awesome job!

    Phil
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • dhlogic
    dhlogic Posts: 26
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    I agree, couldn't have been easier.

    Now to play the waiting game, which I've been pretty good at. I've been collecting upgrades for my 2B's for a couple years now haha.
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  • Inthefade
    Inthefade Posts: 180
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    Thanks Neil.


    I ordered the speakons today. $148 for 6 sets of the ones F1nut suggested. I figured I'd change out the Blade/Blade on my SRS's as well.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    You're very welcome, happy to help.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,427
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    Thank you Neil for doing this and making this group buy a reality.
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,082
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    Well, it looks like I'm one day too late. Just learned about this. If there is any way to get in, please let me know.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    I've asked Melanie if it's possible.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    You're in Doug. PM sent with instructions.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    That's it though, this group buy is officially closed, at 17 units.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
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    Thanks again Neil for taking the reins and seeing this through!
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    Ok, well I'm going to make everyone's day. Rumors of the group-buy's demise have been greatly exaggerated. GlennDog contacted me yesterday, he is jumping in as well. He is not buying one, not buying two, but he is buying three of these getting the total unit purchase to 20, getting us to the next price drop.

    Glenn, I just spoke to Melanie, we agreed that it's far easier for you to pay me than to pay AL directly. They've already charged my card for 17 units at the old price point, so if you pay them directly then they're going to need to refund me the difference between the old price and the new price. If you pay me, then they only need to put through another charge on my card for the difference we owe them for your units versus what's already been paid, with the total reflecting the new lower unit cost.

    Also, dpowell I've added your unit to the order already, but I've not heard back from my PM. Please send your paypal ASAP.

    Melanie has the order on hold for now, once I collect the funds from Doug and Glenn she will push through the order for 20 and charge my card again. At that point I'll be refunding everyone who's paid a higher price. I have everyone's payment in a spreadsheet so I know exactly who gets what, since different people paid different amounts depending on when they got in. New pricing will be $243.19 per unit, down from the original $292.88. So just under $50 cheaper per transformer. Then tack on the $17.45 shipping/insurance and it's a total of $260.64. I'm jealous, we only had 10 units in my group buy, I paid more!
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Again, Neil, thank you and great work!
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    No prob. And ***NOW*** the group buy is closed! Unless someone wants to come forward really quickly and buy 5 of these, so everyone saves even more money! And even then, you're running out of time.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,082
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    Thanks Neil! Anyone participating in this thread if you can post any links to the 'how to build' thread for these, I would appreciate it.
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    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 1.2TLs + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X Polk Surrounds + 4 X ATMOS, SVS PB13 Ultra X 2, McIntosh C2300, Marantz AV7704, Bob Carver Crimson Beauty 350 Tube Mono Blocks, Carver Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400x5, ADCOM GFA 7807, Panasonic UB420, Sim Audio Moon 380D DAC, EPSON Pro Cinema 6050
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    Payment received, Doug. Thanks. Spoke to Glenn on the phone, should have payment from him today and we're done.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    Once I receive Glenn's payment, I will agree final numbers with AL and they will charge my credit card the final amount. They've already charged me for 17 units at $283.59/unit, so $4821.03. Now we'll be buying 20 units at $260.64/unit, so $5212.80. So they should be charging me another $391.77.

    Once that is done, I will be issuing the following refunds:

    Mr_Hz - $99.38, since you're buying 2 units and paid $310.33/unit.

    Moose68Bash, motorstereo, crispybrown, vmaxer, woofiepaws, agfrost, Inthefade, stogie, jonicont, voltz, sea, South Dakota Po all get $49.69, since you all paid $310.33.

    scubasteve4sq, you rounded up your original paypal to me to the nearest dollar, so you will get back $50.36!

    dhlogic, you will get back $22.95, since you paid $283.59, which was the price after we reached 15 units.

    dpowell and GlennDog will not get any refunds, since they paid the 20-unit price.
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  • scubasteve4sq
    scubasteve4sq Posts: 72
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    Hah! I thought I was keeping it simple by rounding up lol. Thanks for all the legwork I'd like you to subtract 10 bucks from my refund as a thank you for all the time and energy you put into making this a reality.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    scubasteve4sq wrote: »
    Hah! I thought I was keeping it simple by rounding up lol. Thanks for all the legwork I'd like you to subtract 10 bucks from my refund as a thank you for all the time and energy you put into making this a reality.

    No tips allowed, but thanks.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    And no tips required, I'm getting over 5000 air miles for this gig!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    For those looking for instructions on how to wire it up, check out DK's pics here:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?74472-The-AI-1-Dreadnought-Project-Pt.1

    DK's are pictured with binding posts. You can also use Speakons, as you can see in Jesse's thread:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?142058-A-slightly-different-take-on-the-Dreadnought&highlight=dreadnought
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    Breaking news, I just received payment from GlennDog, so we are all set to proceed, I will tell Melanie.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    Just spoke to Melanie. Their accounting to department needs to take the order back and regenerate an all new invoice with the new pricing after dealing with the debits/and credits. So she's not going to have a final number to charge me until early next week. The order is in at 20 units and will progress as such, since really we only needed to pay 50% up front. I have a pretty high degree of confidence I know what that number will be, but until she and I tie out figures and she charges me, I'm not going to hold off on refunds.
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  • Tronman
    Tronman Posts: 72
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    I may be in for one if I am not too late 1000VA, what is the price break at now? I will read through the thread tomorrow and let you know for sure.

    Thanks
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    Sorry, afraid the deal is closed.
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  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 317
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    I was thinking of either making or acquiring new back plates for my 1C's and using speakon connectors from both the amp and the Dreadnaught. Are there any downsides to this approach?
    Main-Carver TFM35(2),Carver C11 ,Carver SD/A 360 CD,Carver TX11 ,Grace Digital Tuner, Pioneer PL707 TT,Polk SDA1C
    Downstairs -Carver M1.5t, Carver C1 Pre, Carver TX10 Tuner, Carver TL3200 CD Player, Dual 1009 TT,Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl
    Study - Carver AV634 Amp, Carver CT7 Pre, Carver DTL50 CD Player, Polk RTA12c
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  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
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    I think it would be better to use binding posts for the speaker cables, so if you wanted to try different cables you wouldn't have to add speakons to the new cables. I believe this is the way almost everyone is doing it. You can contact Trey (VR3) for new backplates, that's where I got mine.
    Home Theater
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    Emotiva XPA-5 Emotiva XPA-2 Emotiva UPA-2
    Front RTi-A9 Wide RTi-A7 Center CSi-A6 Surround FXi-A6 Rear RTi-A3 Sub 2x PSW505
    Sony BDP-S790 Dishnetwork Hopper/Joey Logitech Harmony One Apple TV
    Two Channel
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  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 317
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    That is a good point. Thanks.
    Main-Carver TFM35(2),Carver C11 ,Carver SD/A 360 CD,Carver TX11 ,Grace Digital Tuner, Pioneer PL707 TT,Polk SDA1C
    Downstairs -Carver M1.5t, Carver C1 Pre, Carver TX10 Tuner, Carver TL3200 CD Player, Dual 1009 TT,Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl
    Study - Carver AV634 Amp, Carver CT7 Pre, Carver DTL50 CD Player, Polk RTA12c
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
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    Not true. Quite a few of us have moved to using Speakons on the speaker side. Trey sells binding post plates that are drilled out for Speakons, so it's pretty easy to do. I did this on my 4.1TL's when I redid the internal wire with Cardas Litz, have a look at post 82 here:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?137026-My-new-4.1TL-s-are-complete!/page3

    If you're starting fresh and haven't bought binding posts, my advice would be to use Speakons on both sides of the connection, Dreadnought and SDA connection on the speaker. Build the cables with something decent like Signal.

    Personally, what I would advise is for everyone here to use Speakons, then put together a group buy for the cables. 20 transformers, 2 cables per transformer. So you would have a need for 40 cables terminated in Speakon. Call Frank and see what he'll do. He's reasonable enough when you're buying a single pair of cables. If you're buying 20 pairs, I bet he's even more reasonable!
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