My used separates nightmare (or how I went Emo)

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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited March 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Someone drank a whole pitcher of Kool-Aid.
    And there's your example. It's what started the entire derailment of this thread. You troll by comparing Emo to a cult... Jhayman trolls back... the usual suspects chime in and it all goes to hell. It was unnecessary and irrelevant to the conversation... and 7 pages later, here we are.

    Don't worry, man... I still got love for ya'. :wink:
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2013
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    And there's your example. It's what started the entire derailment of this thread. You troll by comparing Emo to a cult... Jhayman trolls back... the usual suspects chime in and it all goes to hell. It was unnecessary and irrelevant to the conversation... and 7 pages later, here we are.

    Don't worry, man... I still got love for ya'. :wink:

    Well, you are certainly right about Jhayman, but I read F1's 'kool-aid' comment as a bit a satire. Satire needs to have an element of truth to work, and there is no denying there is a cult like atmosphere amongst many Emo users here. There is nothing wrong with liking your gear, but when some say it is the best and imply others who bought better gear are wasting their money then they have crossed the line. It is always the Emo fanatics who start these discussions. It is almost as if they are just trolling.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited March 2013
    If that's what you call, "Bashing to me is when someone comes into the thread and offers up an unsolicited negative opinion to counter an argument that no one was making in the first place" then I say you don't know what bashing really is. To hopefully clear up your misinterpretation of my comment, the previous poster to my post lists a very extensive list of emo gear in his sig. Hence, my humerous/teasing type comment was directed at him and no one else. He didn't seem to mind, but a lot of thin skinned others certainly took exception. A sad reflection on the times we live in, I suppose.

    BTW, it's not trolling when the cult like comparision is accurate. One could accurately state that we foster the same cult like behavior here and I could care less. The emo crowd would do well to learn that lesson.

    ATB,
    Jesse
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited March 2013
    No bashing of any gear here. The one thing I learned early on when you buy used, buy from a reputable dealer.Me I got my Adcom from Audio Classics sight and sound unseen but w/ their rep I did it for $300 and they threw in the shipping. The problem I had besides a bad rca cable or 2 was the fact when I used Monster Cable's ICs and had to rearrange things they wouldn't give and hurt my Onkyo P301 .That was fixed and months later after complaining I get a surprise pkge in the mail 2 new Monster Cables for free and I was instructed on how to insert and remove. Emotiva for the $ looks great I have no idea how they sound compared to other amps but w/ a warrenty that they have good choice.Also for me it has to look good and they also do that .Good luck and know who and what your buying from.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,396
    edited March 2013
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    Because at this point, those of us who are enjoying our Emotiva gear without evangelizing it as the next coming can't even discuss it without the condescension of others.

    Here http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/ you can discuss until your hearts are content with other like minded audio people without any sort of conflict with others. Everyone will be in 100% agreement with your POV otherwise they are banned.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited March 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Well, you are certainly right about Jhayman, but I read F1's 'kool-aid' comment as a bit a satire. Satire needs to have an element of truth to work, and there is no denying there is a cult like atmosphere amongst many Emo users here. There is nothing wrong with liking your gear, but when some say it is the best and imply others who bought better gear are wasting their money then they have crossed the line. It is always the Emo fanatics who start these discussions. It is almost as if they are just trolling.
    I get that. But look back at every post up until his. Was anyone exhibiting such cult-like behavior? Were any of us claiming that Emo was the end-all be-all and that you're stupid to buy something different? Nope. Now look at how the thread changed after his post. 'Nuff said.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited March 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Here http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/ you can discuss until your hearts are content with other like minded audio people without any sort of conflict with others. Everyone will be in 100% agreement with your POV otherwise they are banned.

    H9
    I've been there. There's no discussion of ANYTHING there. :lol:

    I'm not asking that everyone agree. That's ridiculous. What I am saying (and have said in Emo threads in the past before I even owned one) is that if you know what these threads end up turning into and if people are having a civil discussion about it despite that (as we attempted to), don't come in and stir the pot. You know what's going to happen. Let people who enjoy their gear enjoy their gear, even if you think it doesn't deserve the hype.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • Tankman
    Tankman Posts: 419
    edited March 2013
    Some people who own EMO gear do go overboard,I own EMO cause well I didn't want used.It is entry level. Don't know why people want too jump F1nut and some of the other ole timers in here they have help so many people in here including me.But for two channel music there is much better out there.EMO is a good value,but not the only value out there.I will keep my XPA-5 for HT but my UPA-1's will be upgraded soon.If you do post anything negative about EMO on that site they will give you a hard time and maybe get banned too.Too each his/her owe I say.A Big thank you too all the Ole Timers on here I for one appreciate all the help I got from you guys!Peace!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,927
    edited March 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    "but it still weighs in at a respectable 35 pounds."

    I've got CDP's that weigh more than that.

    yep was not meant to be "pro" just info...My sony is very close to that also. Heck some class A stuff has A heatsink that weighs that much.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited March 2013
    F1nut,Fool , moron ,stupid and Troll those were Bluefox's words not mine..
    Like Kuntasensei keeps saying no one here is claiming Emo to be the best gear but we like it and when we post good things about it the thread turns into this..
    Just look what happened when someone posted about the new XPA-1L the Emo haters right away started throwing it under the bus..
    Oh my CPD and my Dac weigh more than that, so what.
    Oh I find the mods do great job moderating the forum without the need for me to contact them about personnel attacks in threads.
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,842
    edited March 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    F1nut,Fool , moron ,stupid and Troll those were Bluefox's words not mine..

    Yeah, that's how to amp up the maturity level here. Nice.

    By the way, you tried any aftermarket power cords yet? Or are they still snake oil. Just sayin', man. *sigh*
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited March 2013
    I don't know about you guys but I'm really digging our new mod :biggrin:
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited March 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    F1nut,Fool , moron ,stupid and Troll those were Bluefox's words not mine..
    Like Kuntasensei keeps saying no one here is claiming Emo to be the best gear but we like it and when we post good things about it the thread turns into this..
    Just look what happened when someone posted about the new XPA-1L the Emo haters right away started throwing it under the bus..
    Oh my CPD and my Dac weigh more than that, so what.Oh I find the mods do great job moderating the forum without the need for me to contact them about personnel attacks in threads.

    by all means, please use a HTIB for your 2 channel needs. I'm sure it will give you all the enjoyment you need.

    oh but stay away from samsung, they put some of those old tube things in there. I'm sure you wouldn't want to be associated with "old" people now.
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited March 2013
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    I don't know about you guys but I'm really digging our new mod :biggrin:

    What mod?? Hehehe....
    TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
    Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
    Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
    Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
    Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
    AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited March 2013
    Guys who spent a lot on high-priced amps are absolutely livid with Emotiva. That much is certain. Or, at the very least, obsessed. My problem with high-priced amps is that they require cable risers and esoteric strips of wire (power, interconnect, speaker) to really sound their best; to truly lower the noise floor, identify appropriate timbral textures, and extract micro detail from a pair of Polk SDAs. And that's why I like Emotiva amps. I plug in the factory provided power cable, connect the amp to a nice pair of speakers (LSi7s, for example), and sit back and listen to a fantastic and robust sound. Simply wonderful. The Emotiva apparently sounds great with Legacy Audio speaker, too. But those don't compare to SDAs, so Bill Dudleston can get away with it. People on a limited budget with Focus Whispers will want to hear what those speakers sound like on home theater amps.

    Keep the flames going guys! No point in having a civil discussion at this point ;>}. Tried and failed.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited March 2013
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    I get that. But look back at every post up until his. Was anyone exhibiting such cult-like behavior? Were any of us claiming that Emo was the end-all be-all and that you're stupid to buy something different? Nope. Now look at how the thread changed after his post. 'Nuff said.

    I'm tickled that you think I'm that influential. Here all this time I thought I was only bad and nationwide.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,927
    edited March 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Here all this time I thought I was only bad and nationwide.

    Don't worry Jess you are that and more:twisted:

    we love ya bro
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited March 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'm tickled that you think I'm that influential. Here all this time I thought I was only bad and nationwide.
    Wait... when did you go nationwide? Are there tour posters? 'Cause I would totally rock a "Your Amp Is Bull@#$t Tour 2012" poster on my wall. :wink:
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,644
    edited March 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Someone drank a whole pitcher of Kool-Aid.

    I'm just working towards my 100 posts, it's taken awhile!

    This is where the thread started to spiral down and out of control. Now, whether there is truth in that statement or not doesn't really matter. Prior to that post it was a reasonable thread.

    Now I just find it funny - not a smidge of good info after that!

    One more post closer to 100...
    Aaron
    Enabler Extraordinaire
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited March 2013
    ALL212 wrote: »
    I'm just working towards my 100 posts, it's taken awhile!
    It's good that you're at least acknowledging your ulterior motive. :lol:
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2013
    ALL212 wrote: »
    I'm just working towards my 100 posts, it's taken awhile!

    This is where the thread started to spiral down and out of control. Now, whether there is truth in that statement or not doesn't really matter. Prior to that post it was a reasonable thread.

    Now I just find it funny - not a smidge of good info after that!

    One more post closer to 100...

    Hell yeah!
    Keep posting you are all most there.:cheesygrin:
    To give you some idea how big of mouth I have, I have been here almost 3 years less than you!:mrgreen:
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    Just like a scary movie. It.........just.........won't............die.

    You gotta admit though, unless you press the "post" button, you don't have a dog in the fight.
    I have been following this thread, but, and this is a rare occasion....I have not posted.:eek:.
    Basically, it has happened so many times in the past, for once, personally, I thought I would keep my mouth shout.
    YMMV!:biggrin:
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,644
    edited March 2013
    I just figured my post was as relevant to the OP's thread as F1nut's was...

    DAMN - two posts in one day!! Just think, at this rate I'll have 100 sometime in 2015!

    If we're all gonna crap on a thread - let's make it a colorful, fun crap. Still stinks, but at least it's got an entertainment factor.
    Aaron
    Enabler Extraordinaire
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2013
    ALL212 wrote: »
    I just figured my post was as relevant to the OP's thread as F1nut's was...

    DAMN - two posts in one day!! Just think, at this rate I'll have 100 sometime in 2015!

    If we're all gonna crap on a thread - let's make it a colorful, fun crap. Still stinks, but at least it's got an entertainment factor.

    Go for it man....ALL OUT!:cheesygrin:
    It is impossible to post dumber stuff than has been posted in the past!:cheesygrin:
    Just saying!
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  • D_M
    D_M Posts: 175
    edited March 2013
    Well, since we're all plying on, give me piece of this post count action.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2013
    D_M wrote: »
    Well, since we're all plying on, give me piece of this post count action.

    Bring it!:lol:
    I, and I am sure alot of other people do not blame you a bit.
    Some mouths are bigger than others (mine included).:lol:
    I did the same thing back in the day!:cool:
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,644
    edited March 2013
    D_M wrote: »
    Well, since we're all plying on, give me piece of this post count action.

    That's the spirit!! Who else wants to either post crap or just up their post count?

    Original OP - my sincere appology for this but after F1nut crapped on your thread and then the followers-on got involved it's a wasted thread anyway. I'm not sure why this place can't be cleaned up or why you can't post an honest opinion without someone turding up the place.

    There's a reason I have so few posts in the amount of time I've been here. And this thread represents the classic reason why..
    Aaron
    Enabler Extraordinaire
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2013
    Personally, unlike some others, I am all about growing this forum and you have to do what you have to do to get to where you want be!
    Nuff said, do it!:cheesygrin:
    Stronger the forum the less likely they will shut it down!

    Balls to the wall!:lol:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited March 2013
    ALL212 wrote: »
    That's the spirit!! Who else wants to either post crap or just up their post count?

    Original OP - my sincere appology for this but after F1nut crapped on your thread and then the followers-on got involved it's a wasted thread anyway. I'm not sure why this place can't be cleaned up or why you can't post an honest opinion without someone turding up the place.

    There's a reason I have so few posts in the amount of time I've been here. And this thread represents the classic reason why..

    My honest opinion, you should go back to not posting because you obviously don't know the score.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2013
    ALL212 wrote: »
    That's the spirit!! Who else wants to either post crap or just up their post count?

    Original OP - my sincere appology for this but after F1nut crapped on your thread and then the followers-on got involved it's a wasted thread anyway. I'm not sure why this place can't be cleaned up or why you can't post an honest opinion without someone turding up the place.

    There's a reason I have so few posts in the amount of time I've been here. And this thread represents the classic reason why..

    PS: F1 could care less, you would think he hates you, he does not!
    Jesse is a down to earth guy and you would think (like I have in the past) have a difference with him and the next thing you know you have a great report going with him through pm's.
    Trust me, been there done that, one of the best guys on this forum!
    Bare none.
    I have tried to pi$$ him off in the past and am still good friends.
    He gets a really bad rap for his "short to point" answers......
    Could not be father from the truth!
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