My used separates nightmare (or how I went Emo)

polkfarmboy wrote: »

This threads giving me ........ BPTSD Binding post traumatic stress disorder

LOL...at least you have a sense of humor over it.

I'll try and find a towel for all the other cry babies...

polkfarmboy wrote: »

This threads giving me ........ BPTSD Binding post traumatic stress disorder

LOL! Too funny PFB! Please don't tell us it was an Emotiva amp that you jacked up the binding posts on.:eek:

Jhayman wrote: »

You must have bought some expensive Kool-Aid as well being all pent up living in the snow capital of our Beautiful Country..
I could care less who's on this forum or what they have done, is that supposed to mean something to me.
All I see is someone who is a so called respected member of this forum posting trolling remarks for no other reason than to stir the pot..

i think he stockpiled the kool-aid and survived on it while he was snowed in

BlueFox wrote: »

Maybe if you guys would quit being so defensive, and stop taking every tease as a personal insult, then you wouldn't get teased as much. It's nice to like your gear. That's why we buy it, but, in the end, you get what you pay for. Nothing more, and nothing less.

People should be respectful of other people's gear. Period. Only A-holes would do otherwise. Yes, you do get what you pay for, for better or for worse.

I've said it before, I'll state it again. Emo is really good entry level HT gear. Beyond that, one can do better (If they choose to) without trying too hard for 2 channel rig. I am just as entitled to my opinion as those who have their Emo shrines.

H9

kuntasensei wrote: »

See, it's stuff like "Emo shrines" that I'm talking about. I'm not placing the brand on a pedestal. Neither was anyone else in this thread. Nor am I saying that you can't do better for a 2-channel rig... 'cause hell, I'm using RTi70s - not exactly well-liked, even in Polk's lineage of speakers, so it isn't like I'm rockin' a high-end system. I'm also not being defensive, as if I take personal offense to people downing Emotiva. I just don't understand the disrespect people exhibit for this one particular brand, or the outright smack-talk that results every single time they're mentioned here. Maybe it's just me, but if you don't like a brand and people are having a discussion about it, why do people feel it necessary to thread-crap every time, as if it threatens them somehow? It's just odd to me. After my experience, I don't really care for Adcom amps... but I'm not going to tell people who use them that they're "drinking the Kool-Aid" or go into Adcom threads and be a smartass to anyone. That's childish.

Not that any of this matters, ultimately... 'cause I'm pretty happy with the sound of the XPA-3 with my speakers. More so than I have been with the GFA-5503 or the HCA-2003 in my particular setup. That's what matters to me - not the name on the front of it or the bizarre hatred for the brand as if they're some kind of cult. I'd just like people to be a little more respectful and keep the back-handed elitism out of the discussion. We're all here because we love audio... There is no sense in all this derision.

Enjoy the music brother. Your ears are all that matters. That dared that he sing so much praise about was the biggest piece of crap I ever had in my home. I don't come on here and bash it when someone praises it. I just went out and bought a real tube pre, well make that 2 real tube pres. The stuff he calls junk is made in the same place his beloved dared is. I guess thats the pot calling the kettle black. Ignore it, and enjoy it. We both know that emo is not be all end all. What I find crazy is the people that did own them here did not have the 2 channel verison or the monos but they were doing critical listening but then they upgraded to a more expensive 2 channel amp and now everything is great. There are some good multi-channel amps out there but most can't compete with a 2 channel or mono amp for critical listening. Even emo snobs will say that the monos and 2 channel amps are a step above all of the multi channel amps.

Glad you did what I did and listened for yourself. I guess our ears are terrible. I have talked with people that are running 20-25k dynaudio, revel, and other high priced towers on the xpr1's. One guy has owned pass, octave, and has a properly treated room. He was on the fence like me until he got them in home. Needless to say, they stayed.

I was lucky enough to learn to bend a little and how to take the cotton out of my ears and put it in my mouth and listen. A little humility has helped me a great deal here.

a little of this goes a long way some should try it.

Some here do not like my Carvers TFM25/45, but I think they are wonderful. I personally have not heard an Adcom I like but I tell folks they should give them a listen if they are in their price range. I REALLY liked the Ayre amp I heard on my own gear but I really do not have the upper 4 figures they go for. I have not heard any Emotive Amps could they hold their own with the Arye probably not but their marketing will not allow me to go hear them side by side maybe I'd be really surprised. I did read the article on the owner in Stereophile and it was well wrote. It made me realize that he has been around the audio side for sometime. One last note until I read that article I never knew that the company that owns Emotive also owns Sherbourn and
I have heard Sherbourn and do like them.
I'm really glad the OP has found something that works and should not have any trouble with for years to come.

kuntasensei wrote: »

See, it's stuff like "Emo shrines" that I'm talking about. I'm not placing the brand on a pedestal. Neither was anyone else in this thread. Nor am I saying that you can't do better for a 2-channel rig... 'cause hell, I'm using RTi70s - not exactly well-liked, even in Polk's lineage of speakers, so it isn't like I'm rockin' a high-end system. I'm also not being defensive, as if I take personal offense to people downing Emotiva. I just don't understand the disrespect people exhibit for this one particular brand, or the outright smack-talk that results every single time they're mentioned here. Maybe it's just me, but if you don't like a brand and people are having a discussion about it, why do people feel it necessary to thread-crap every time, as if it threatens them somehow? It's just odd to me. After my experience, I don't really care for Adcom amps... but I'm not going to tell people who use them that they're "drinking the Kool-Aid" or go into Adcom threads and be a smartass to anyone. That's childish.

Not that any of this matters, ultimately... 'cause I'm pretty happy with the sound of the XPA-3 with my speakers. More so than I have been with the GFA-5503 or the HCA-2003 in my particular setup. That's what matters to me - not the name on the front of it or the bizarre hatred for the brand as if they're some kind of cult. I'd just like people to be a little more respectful and keep the back-handed elitism out of the discussion. We're all here because we love audio... There is no sense in all this derision.

I agree 100%. I haven't read this whole thread but it seems to be the same people every time. (Trollers)

Loud & Clear wrote: »

People can do better than your SDAs, too. Would you like to be reminded of that as often as you log on to the site? Of course that's just a subjective opinion that I've expressed, although I've owned three pairs of SDAs. My most recent subjective opinion suggests that you have no idea how good a pair of Lsi7s, powered by an Emotiva UPA-200, sounds in my particular room. My guess is that won't stop you from trying, however.

And tubes DON'T rule. Not in my house. They sounded like a eunuch with real speakers like mine. ;>}

Great, you know what you like and don't like as do I. So what was your point again?

H9

Damn not again..
No responses for almost 12hrs, lol
Tubes may rule but once all the old timers relinquish their audio torches Tubes will be Gone Forever.
Me thinks the old timers feel threatened by Emo, which fuels all their hatred..
I say Grey hair go in Peace and leave Emo alone..

Jhayman wrote: »

Damn not again..
No responses for almost 12hrs, lol
Tubes may rule but once all the old timers relinquish their audio torches Tubes will be Gone Forever.
Me thinks the old timers feel threatened by Emo, which fuels all their hatred..
I say Grey hair go in Peace and leave Emo alone..

LOL. The original Jhayman is back.

DSkip wrote: »

Really? While I do have grey hair, I was born during the Reagan administration. Unless something comes that blows the liquidity and soul of tubes out of the water, I dare say I'm a tuber for life.

I like the assumption made that you have to be old to enjoy tubes. Once again running his mouth off about something he knows nothing about. Go figure.

cstmar01 wrote: »

I like the assumption made that you have to be old to enjoy tubes. Once again running his mouth off about something he knows nothing about. Go figure.

Aren't you like 79?

Jhayman wrote: »

Tubes may rule but once all the old timers relinquish their audio torches Tubes will be Gone Forever.
Me thinks the old timers feel threatened by Emo, which fuels all their hatred..
I say Grey hair go in Peace and leave Emo alone..

Last year several of us guys met up and went to the Altanta Axpona. In a group like that you kind of hang together so you don't get too far apart but sometimes one guy may stay in a room longer than others if something catches their ear. If so, in the next room or two you hang longer and let the others catch up. So everybody gets their time with favorites.

Emotiva had a room with a full setup. When I saw their name on the door I thought, good...a chance to hear a newer brand. Well, it was a gritty and un-hifi sound. It didn't take 20 seconds to vacate. One of those rare times when within just a few notes you can comfortably spin on your heel and head for the door. And you know, everyone else did the same. Independant conclusion the same by everyone. Not even close to the general level of really being at a show with decent equipment! Much more in line with expectations from a Best Buy or something.

Most higher end equipment in general is tube. Certainly plenty that isn't too. When the persuit is for better, you just really don't care which it is. But more often than not, it is tube that allows the easy open communicate with the musician kind of feeling. You really should take the time and go to the expense of getting to an event like this. It'd tend to open your eyes and show the level of knowledge you're working from and have been so happy to vocalize here.

But don't fear it....the level of enjoyment can go so much higher. The thrill of hearing more from the same material you thought you were familiar with is addicting. You'll eventually find pleasure in coming back and saying to others how foolish you were. The enjoy factor goes so much higher that it's fun to admit how wrong you were! You'll find yourself so immersed in music you listen to the whole song to last dieing note instead of the first minute and then skipping on.

Right here on this forum, over time, you can see this play out time after time. Join the club. Get out and experience that there actually is a whole level way above and beyond the big box store level!

CJ