Plasma or LED?
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Looks like about everyone loves their Panasonic Plasma.
Looks like I am down to the Panasonic GT 50 or Samsung E7000 plasma. I've seen both in a store setting and they both looked excellent to my eyes. I wasn't able to view them side by side though.
That Samsung looks to be a little cheaper (since they are offering a $200 gift card with purchase).AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
Mains: Polk LSiM707
Center: Polk LSiM706c
Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
DVD: Xbox 360
NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200 -
LED for sure! I do not go for brands...I go for technology!!!Make it simple...Make it better!
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Looks like about everyone loves their Panasonic Plasma.
Looks like I am down to the Panasonic GT 50 or Samsung E7000 plasma. I've seen both in a store setting and they both looked excellent to my eyes. I wasn't able to view them side by side though.
That Samsung looks to be a little cheaper (since they are offering a $200 gift card with purchase).
The Panasonic ST50 is also in the debate. I have never looked at one in person, but the reviews say that it is extremely similar to the GT50.AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
Mains: Polk LSiM707
Center: Polk LSiM706c
Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
DVD: Xbox 360
NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200 -
Here is a little reading for your pleasure (or un-pleasure) whatever the case may be. If it makes any difference as TV views are about as concise as "what kinda speakers should I buy" threads are. http://plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/plasma-vs-lcd.html
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cowtrimmer wrote: »Here is a little reading for your pleasure (or un-pleasure) whatever the case may be. If it makes any difference as TV views are about as concise as "what kinda speakers should I buy" threads are. http://plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/plasma-vs-lcd.html
It seems like I've done nothing but read buying guides, reviews, etc. I don't get much time to go and actually see the TV's in action. The joys of living in a rural location, not many choices to view TV's.
Alright, down to the 2 different Panasonic Plasma's. ST or GT? I can't justify the VT, way to much $ for me. Would a normal eye notice a difference? I'm not a videofile by any-means, but I definitely want the TV to have a very nice picture.AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
Mains: Polk LSiM707
Center: Polk LSiM706c
Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
DVD: Xbox 360
NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200 -
It seems like I've done nothing but read buying guides, reviews, etc. I don't get much time to go and actually see the TV's in action. The joys of living in a rural location, not many choices to view TV's.
Alright, down to the 2 different Panasonic Plasma's. ST or GT? I can't justify the VT, way to much $ for me. Would a normal eye notice a difference? I'm not a videofile by any-means, but I definitely want the TV to have a very nice picture.
Well I went with the ST as I got a 60" ST for the same price as a 50" GT. I did not see both side by side, but for me coming from a DLP it was going to be a big enough change regardless.
From what I have read this years GT models incorporate a panel as good or better than last years VT models. The ST models have a panel as good or better than last years GT models....
So IMHO go with the biggest screen size you can get and give up a little on picture quality. But you might see it totally the other way around :biggrin:.
P.S. I am very happy with my ST model, although I at times I still wish my wife had let my buy the Sunfire Signature 450x5 with that money instead
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Upstatemax wrote: »I've owned my Samsung plasma for three years with zero issue. When I was looking for a new tv I checked out both Panny and Samsung plasma screens and I liked the Samsung picture better...
The Panny technically had a better black level that I found to be hardly noticeable, but the Samsung had better color reproduction to me...
Almost everyone I know has a Samsung plasma or LCD/LED and I have not heard of or seen a single problem with one of them. LG on the other hand, absolute crap...
Well, I was one of 100,000s that had under rated power supply caps in my crapsung LCD that failed in less than 2 years that crapsung would not suport me on. Get your google on.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&gs_mss=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20rep&tok=ifnqgA5SpCQTiZO9e9QCSw&cp=31&gs_id=40&xhr=t&q=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20repair&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Samsung+LCD+power+supply+repair&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.b2U&fp=2afa5d44ccb651f3&bpcl=40096503&biw=1441&bih=723Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
Well, I was one of 100,000s that had under rated power supply caps in my crapsung LCD that failed in less than 2 years that crapsung would not suport me on. Get your google on.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&gs_mss=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20rep&tok=ifnqgA5SpCQTiZO9e9QCSw&cp=31&gs_id=40&xhr=t&q=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20repair&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Samsung+LCD+power+supply+repair&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.b2U&fp=2afa5d44ccb651f3&bpcl=40096503&biw=1441&bih=723
There is only over 1 million hits for the problem. I even tried to help them by asking them to let me win something, a $5 starbucks card but no, I was SOL. Crapsung can suck it ! I fixed the problem myself for less than $3.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
Lots of hate for Samsung out there evidently.
I went ahead and ordered the GT50 (60"). Now the waiting game through Christmas and after for it to arrive.AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
Mains: Polk LSiM707
Center: Polk LSiM706c
Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
DVD: Xbox 360
NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200 -
I sell these things everyday, IMO samsung is way to bright and over saturated. even with adjustment the colors dont look natural. I tend to like Sharp and LG. Not as bright and more true to life color out of the box. I have the sharp aquos quattron from 2 years ago. Properly calibrated that tv is nothing short of amazing. I had a coworker come over and he was just in awe. He couldnt believe how good the tv looked when properly calibrated.
As far as Plasma vs LED-LCD. I think the highend - consumer marketed version of each are very comparable. If I had a dark media room I would got Panny VT or GT, but if you have a lot of wndows you almost have no choice but to get and led. Plasmas just dont have the power to compensate for that extra ambient light. The grey out and dull. Led's can easily over power most light. Glare is the same as most high end leds will use a polished screen for the extra crispness that it gives.
If I could afford it I would get the new Elite (sharp) led tvs. That tv when properly setup up is stunning. The black is so deep its like looking into a infinite void.HT Rig Samsung 64F8500 |Pioneer Elite BDP-52FD|Pioneer Elite VSX-32| Two Carver TFM-15cb Bridged for mains|Polk Audio RTiA5 Cherry|Polk Audio CsiA6 Cherry|Polk Audio T-15 Heights|Polk Audio FXia6 Surround|DIY 8cuft Dayton Ultimax 15" powered with a Crown XLS1000
2Channel Rig Polk Audio LSi9 Cherry| Carver C-1BillD Mod|Carver M1.0t MkII Opt2|Pro-ject RM 1.3|SpeedBox S|AQ King Cobras|AQ Rocket88|
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Well I am late to this party but Panasonic Plasma all the way. I have no issues with mine in a room with five windows facing east.AVR: Elite VSX-21TXH
Amplifier: B&K 7250 Series ii
Misc: Velodyne SMS-1
Mains: RTi-10
Center: CSi-5
Rear: Boston DSi460
Sub: SVS PC-Ultra
TV: Panasonic TC-P58V10
DVD: Panasonic DMP-BD60K -
Well I am late to this party but Panasonic Plasma all the way. I have no issues with mine in a room with five windows facing east.
I initially had some concern on the placement of the TV to my windows also. That has mostly been soothed over by this forum and the reviews that I have read. Now only if it would get here sooner...AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
Mains: Polk LSiM707
Center: Polk LSiM706c
Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
DVD: Xbox 360
NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200 -
...Both he ST and GT are excellent models , get the GT if you can afford it. The ST is a stellar performer at it's price point so if you can't swing the GT , you'll be tickled pink with the ST.
Do you think the VT is worth it? How does it compare to the GT?2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's
Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses
Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's -
Panasonic has my vote.Front- RTI A7,(powered by ADCOM GFA 5500)
Center- CSI5,
Surrounds- RTI 6 and Rear Surrounds- TS 15.
TV-Panasonic P55ST50
SUB-SVS PB10-NSD and PSW505
Receiver- Yamaha Aventage RX-A2000 -
falconcry72 wrote: »Do you think the VT is worth it? How does it compare to the GT?
I have a GT25 and a VT30. Although the VT30 is newer it is better then the GT25. Also you have more picture settings on the VT'sAnaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
I have the 65" GT30 and side by side I could not justify the extra $800. When I asked a friend of mine that works for Panny selling these to big box stores he also had a hard time justifying the cost, ST to GT yes but not Gt to VT.
YMMVSpeakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
Well, I was one of 100,000s that had under rated power supply caps in my crapsung LCD that failed in less than 2 years that crapsung would not suport me on. Get your google on.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&gs_mss=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20rep&tok=ifnqgA5SpCQTiZO9e9QCSw&cp=31&gs_id=40&xhr=t&q=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20repair&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Samsung+LCD+power+supply+repair&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.b2U&fp=2afa5d44ccb651f3&bpcl=40096503&biw=1441&bih=723
I really feel no reason to "get my google on"...
I mostly ignore people ranting online. I rely on my own personal experiences. Is Samsung's customer service crappy?
Maybe. But I have never had a single reason to contact them, to me that's a great thing. If ever needed to contact them and I was treated like garbage, I would draw my own opinion.
Honestly, the first and only time I've had to contact Polk CS, the guy was crazy rude and treated me like crap...
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Just to add one more vote for Panasanic plasma. I have one and have been very happy with it. It has a great life-like picture quality and I have had no problems at all with it. I think a Panny plasma is the way to go.
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Good luck to those who still have a working Samsung they bought new within the last 5 years and especially the last one or two years because there are numerous__ comsumer complaints about Samsung not standing behind their warranty to fix their tvs. And yes, many of these tvs are not even a year old. People have spent way too many hundreds or a thousand dollars on a new Samsung tv to only have it crap out on them after a couple of months ,then Samsung says sorry,not our problem.... Unfortunately, these newer tvs with all of the computer like circuitry in them is compounding the problems. And let me add, this isn't only__ with Samsung, you'll find other names like LG, Toshiba, Sony,Panasonic, (yes, Panasonic ,which I was really surprised to see, I've always liked their integrity),Vizio, ,DYODD.
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I have the 65" GT30 and side by side I could not justify the extra $800. When I asked a friend of mine that works for Panny selling these to big box stores he also had a hard time justifying the cost, ST to GT yes but not Gt to VT.
YMMV
For straight up picture quality you're probably right, but the vt's design is also really sexy. Love that single pane of glass look.2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's
Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses
Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's -
I agree Falcon, If it had not been just moving and buying a new house and all that goes with it I would have spent the extra money but...... I am very happy with the 65GT30. I picked up a few LG LCDs for rest of the house with the extra money. Pretty impressed with the 42" LGs. I still have the Crapsung at our house in Plano and it has a good picture. Samsung had such a big problem they basically covered 80% of the people who had the problem and stranded the other 20%. Easy fix but they cheaped out and got caught.
Yeah my TV was 18 months old and out of warrenty but they lost a customer for life that will dog crapsung to anyone that will listen. They told me even TVs have to be serviced like a car. A bedroom TV less than 2 years old with low usage should fail in 18 months and considered normal, They can suck it.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
Can't vote for the Panny as I've never personally owned one, a friend has one and the picture is fantastic. My Samsung plasma also had problems after about 18 months and I replaced it with LG LED a couple months backMains: Polk Audio SDA-2Bs
Center and Surrounds: Bic Acoustech
AVR: Pioneer 1015tx
Amp: Anthem Amp 1
Turntable: Project Debut III
Inputs: Xbox 360, Samsung BDP-1000, Apple TV -
...I went ahead and ordered the GT50 (60")...
I may very well end up with the same screen... it's between the 60" GT50 and the 55" VT50. hmm slightly slicker bezel or 5 extra inches...2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's
Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses
Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's -
Just got a Panasonic GT50 60" plasma and am very please with it, except for the sound quality. I am replacing the Mits 57831 DLP (replaced 5 lamps in less than 5 years).[
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Just got a Panasonic GT50 60" plasma and am very please with it, except for the sound quality. I am replacing the Mits 57831 DLP (replaced 5 lamps in less than 5 years).
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I recently purchased the 50ST50 after finding it for an excellent price.($500 less than the GT).Outstanding TV for the money.
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RT-12, CS350-LS, PSW-300, Infinity Overture 1, Monoprice RC-65i
Adcom GFA-545II, GFA-6000, Outlaw Audio 990, Netgear NeoTV
Denon DCM-460, DMD-1000, Sony BDP-360, Bravia KDL-40Z4100/S
Monster AVL-300, HTS-2500 MKII -
Well, I was one of 100,000s that had under rated power supply caps in my crapsung LCD that failed in less than 2 years that crapsung would not suport me on. Get your google on.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&gs_mss=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20rep&tok=ifnqgA5SpCQTiZO9e9QCSw&cp=31&gs_id=40&xhr=t&q=Samsung%20LCD%20power%20supply%20repair&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Samsung+LCD+power+supply+repair&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.b2U&fp=2afa5d44ccb651f3&bpcl=40096503&biw=1441&bih=723There is only over 1 million hits for the problem. I even tried to help them by asking them to let me win something, a $5 starbucks card but no, I was SOL. Crapsung can suck it ! I fixed the problem myself for less than $3.
I have two Samsung Plasma TV's one I have had for 5-6 yrs the other is about 3yrs old now, Zero Issues.
I also have two Samsung LCD's about the same ages as stated above, Zero issues. -
Try it this way..
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Your link sucks, and was feeble to say the least..
