The $2200 HDMI cable @ BB
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I guarantee most professional recording studios do NOT use expensive wires, they use Belden and Mogami. Belden was used at the Olympics and through out the broadcast industry. Mogami is used in professional recording studios.
Take a look at the musicians who have high praise for Mogami cables:
http://www.mogamicable.com/additional/testimonials.php
Who's Using Mogami:
http://www.mogamicable.com/mogami_users/index.php
Belden(R) Cable Chosen for Use at the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games
http://www2.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-26-1999/0001059587&EDATE= -
I have a total of $450 in my setup :eek:
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Funny thing is, I've almost got as much in cables currently as I do in equipment. A few years back, I was broken into by my crackhead neighbor (currently in prison). I told my insurance guy that I needed $200 bucks or so, and I would go out and buy new cables. I didn't have anything fancy, just some $20-30 "THX" certified cheapie cables.
Back in THOSE days, Monster was all I knew. Well, the insurance guy said that my guess wasn't good enough, and for his paperwork they would need actual model numbers for cables. So now I'm running all Monster 1000 series cables (running about $250 a pop for a 4 meter cable). I think I've got 4 or 5 of them. Sure are pretty, but I can't say I'd ever spend my own money on anything like that.65" Sony X900 (XBR-65X900E)
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This was friggin HILARIOUS!!!!
If you were like me, and are saying 'Whatever', DON'T. Go read this s@#t, it's funny as can be
Thanks for sharing!
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And I would also guess the less the number of terminations/connectors, the better. ie If you can just snake an HDMI or speaker cable through a wall vs. installing a box and adding another set of connectors to the equation, I chose going with the cable runs with only 2 connectors on the entire run of cable. Something like this works well, but may not work for everyone's aesthetic needs:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=4001&seq=1&format=2
I also prefer not to make connections when it is not necessary. i use those style of plates all the time. Speaker wire I never cut and re terminate at a plate then make jumpers , just a waste of time effort and the ability to decrease signal integrity.Dan
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EndersShadow wrote: »LOL...the folks at Fry's hate me for doing that...I go in just to peruse and sometimes cant help myself from correcting them....
I had some guy that worked there tell me that you cant get HDMI audio from a blu-ray player unless it has blu-ray live or profile 2.0. He also tried to say unless you had HDMI 1.4 cables it wouldnt work either......
After correcting him I ruined a HDMI cable sale for him by mentioning monoprice....
Correcting someone when they are giving incorrect advise is fine but stopping a sale is not really good practice unless the product is completely wrong for the application. I would never tell anyone not to by 69.00 HDMI cables as most of them pass spec and are high quality cables. Nothing wrong with that.Dan
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digitalvideo wrote: »I guarantee most professional recording studios do NOT use expensive wires, they use Belden and Mogami. Belden was used at the Olympics and through out the broadcast industry. Mogami is used in professional recording studios.
Take a look at the musicians who have high praise for Mogami cables:
http://www.mogamicable.com/additional/testimonials.php
Who's Using Mogami:
http://www.mogamicable.com/mogami_users/index.php
Belden(R) Cable Chosen for Use at the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games
http://www2.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-26-1999/0001059587&EDATE=
It basically comes back to what I have been saying , once the cable can achieve it's job , there is nothing you can do to make it better. If it doesn't pick up or lose anything on it's travels then this cable is good for the job at hand.
I really think people get wrapped up in how cool cables look , all the impressive things that the companies say and write about them etc etc etc. I'm totally against most high end wire as I fully believe it can be done for a lot less then 36 K for a 6 foot pair of speaker cables. My question is that what it takes to get the job done correctly?
Actually I email MIT about this very thing , and I'll post the email and response once I get it back. Transparent gave me a bunch of crap and danced around my actual question. I will get to the bottom of this once and for all.Dan
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I'd love to know what the Hell is in MIT's little boxes, have you ever opened one up ?
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Who has the time to come up with this stuff?!? Appreciate it though, funny stuff!
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Who has the time to come up with this stuff?!?
Well, if you're at work, and sitting at the console multi-tasking with a tech manual on your lap, and ......
BTW, if there's a gawd in heaven .... I submitted a review of this cable on BB's site (based upon what I assume it's qualities are :redface:).
Threw in a quote from Kurt Vonnegut's, "The Sirens of Titan"; worked in the titles of several Captain Beefheart albums into the text; embedded a Youtube link for Captain Beefheart's, "Electricity" .
I couldn't be more proud of myself ! Unless the stars align and BB actually posts my review :eek:
In which case .... I ...... it's almost too much to hope for !
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It basically comes back to what I have been saying , once the cable can achieve it's job , there is nothing you can do to make it better. If it doesn't pick up or lose anything on it's travels then this cable is good for the job at hand.
I really think people get wrapped up in how cool cables look , all the impressive things that the companies say and write about them etc etc etc. I'm totally against most high end wire as I fully believe it can be done for a lot less then 36 K for a 6 foot pair of speaker cables. My question is that what it takes to get the job done correctly?
Actually I email MIT about this very thing , and I'll post the email and response once I get it back. Transparent gave me a bunch of crap and danced around my actual question. I will get to the bottom of this once and for all.
I sent this email a few days ago and got a response that they will respond to my question. Must be difficult to answer my direct and straight question.
This is what I got so far.
"Thank you for enquiry with MIT Cables regarding:
Product Name: CVT Terminator 2 RCA Interconnect
Product SKU: CVT2IC-XX
Product Link: http://www.mitcables.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=31&Itemid=264
We will contact you soon regarding your enquiry.
(Please do not reply to this email)"Dan
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Read the comments left (they're trolls, every last one of em!)
AudioQuest 39.4' Coffee HDMI Cable.
Yes this is all meant in jest
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It basically comes back to what I have been saying , once the cable can achieve it's job , there is nothing you can do to make it better. If it doesn't pick up or lose anything on it's travels then this cable is good for the job at hand.
I really think people get wrapped up in how cool cables look , all the impressive things that the companies say and write about them etc etc etc. I'm totally against most high end wire as I fully believe it can be done for a lot less then 36 K for a 6 foot pair of speaker cables. My question is that what it takes to get the job done correctly?
Actually I email MIT about this very thing , and I'll post the email and response once I get it back. Transparent gave me a bunch of crap and danced around my actual question. I will get to the bottom of this once and for all.
Dan,
First, this thread is about a Best Buy HDMI Cable so I'm not sure how you dragged MIT and Transparent speaker cables into it.
And maybe I missed it, but I don't recall members advocating the average person buy a $36,000 set of speaker cables. I'm positive no one ever recommended spending $2,200 for an HDMI.
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inspiredsports wrote: »Dan,
First, this thread is about a Best Buy HDMI Cable so I'm not sure how you dragged MIT and Transparent speaker cables into it.
And maybe I missed it, but I don't recall members advocating the average person buy a $36,000 set of speaker cables. I'm positive no one ever recommended spending $2,200 for an HDMI.
Greg
You missed the point I believe. It's a matter of getting the job done from A to B no matter who made the cable. Best buy selling it or Audioquest making it or MIT answering a question about it.
It all comes full circle. Think of this , does it take 36k to get a signal from a amp to a speaker correctly? Does it take 2200.00 to get the Digital signal correctly? So many factors I was looking for some common ground.Dan
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Well, this won't be the first time I've been accused of beating a dead horse, but after checking to see if my "review" of this HDMI cable had been posted (it hasn't), got to checking some other bargain HDMI cables on BB.
6.6' HDMI cable for $695.99.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1218245470758&type=product&isLogout=true&DPSLogout=true&_requestid=300798
The reviews for this cable are also very informative.
Some additional good news is that if my review is posted, than you will no longer have to qualify any judgemental statements with, "I think you're an idiot". Nope. All doubts shall be removed.
... but it will have been worth it.
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I sent this email a few days ago and got a response that they will respond to my question. Must be difficult to answer my direct and straight question.
This is what I got so far.
"Thank you for enquiry with MIT Cables regarding:
Product Name: CVT Terminator 2 RCA Interconnect
Product SKU: CVT2IC-XX
Product Link: http://www.mitcables.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=31&Itemid=264
We will contact you soon regarding your enquiry.
(Please do not reply to this email)"
I installed five CVT Terminator 1 cables in my HT, and was amazed at how much better it sounded. They really bring out the subtle details in the audio, and made the background quieter. All in all, a very worthwhile upgrade for both HT, and multi-channel SACD.
http://www.mitcables.com/available-in-stores/audio-interconnects/cvt-terminator-1-rca-interconnect.htmlLumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Yoda wonders if AudioQuest thinks that everyone should own a $2200 HDMI cable.
No. AudioQuest does not think that everyone should own a $2200 HDMI cable. That is why they offer a variety of HDMI cable models ranging in length from just under 2 feet to over 65 feet and ranging in price from $22 to $9800 (see attached price list).
I assume that AudioQuest's various HDMI cables are intended to be appropriately used in specific applications with equipment of comparable performance. Although, they might not refuse the sale if someone really, really wanted to place their $2200 "Coffee" HDMI cable between a $150 Blu-ray player and a $200 receiver...just for bragging rights.

I wonder if the makers of $2200 shoes, $2200 handbags and $2200 men's suits come under the same type of scrutiny as the makers of $2200 cables?
No. Most people are intelligent enough to understand the value of a $2200 handbag, shoes, suit, etc. and that such goods are intended for specific consumers with specific performance requirements.~DKProud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
You missed the point I believe. It's a matter of getting the job done from A to B no matter who made the cable. Best buy selling it or Audioquest making it or MIT answering a question about it.
It all comes full circle. Think of this , does it take 36k to get a signal from a amp to a speaker correctly? Does it take 2200.00 to get the Digital signal correctly? So many factors I was looking for some common ground.
My apologies if I missed something.
I just always get the impression (maybe wrongly) that you are uncomfortable when someone states they have experienced improvement at a price point higher than that with which you are comfortable.
I started experimenting in late 2008 and have never felt I was mislead by those I trust here at CP. Each time I asked questions, did research, listened to members thoughts, and laid down more of hard-earned, I was pleased with the results.
No one ever said I needed to buy $36K cables. But I guess if I ever hit the lottery or was able to incrementally inch my way up into that $30K stratosphere, I might consider $36K cables.VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
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MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
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PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
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For two pages this was CP's wire bizarro world, but nothing lasts forever...
Funny stuff...
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DarqueKnight wrote: »No. AudioQuest does not think that everyone should own a $2200 HDMI cable. That is why they offer a variety of HDMI cable models ranging in length from just under 2 feet to over 65 feet and ranging in price from $22 to $9800 (see attached price list).
There are, as Mantis pointed out, potential signal degredation issues with long runs of cable, even with HDMI. With HDMI, Murphy's Law would dictate that the chance of cable fault, etc rise. I would assume manufacturing quality control standards and inspections are tighter, with subsuquent rises in cost.
Having said that, though ...... there are no plans here now or in the near future for a 20 meter, $9800 HDMI cable. :eek:
WHOLE different matter when talking about speaker cables and analog signals, IMO.DK wrote:I assume that AudioQuest's various HDMI cables are intended to be appropriately used in specific applications with equipment of comparable performance. Although, they might not refuse the sale if someone really, really wanted to place their $2200 "Coffee" HDMI cable between a $150 Blu-ray player and a $200 receiver...just for bragging rights.

Couldn't agree more. If a person has money in the bank, and wanting to splurge on some stuff for fun, go for it !
A $9800 HDMI cable shouldn't be the first upgrade in system improvement, possibly especially so in an Insignia AVR and DVD player system. 
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There's a Customer Review for their 65.6' cable; he's an electrical engineer who doesn't think the cable is worth $1529.99.
Another customer responded to his negative post, extolling the virtues of the cable. Kind of interesting discussion.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Carbon+65.6'+HDMI+Cable+-+Platinum+White/9892876.p?skuId=9892876&id=1218202520596#tabbed-customerreviews
...still waiting for my review. :redface:Sal Palooza -
That cable has Solid 10% silver-plated long-grain copper conductors.
Audio Quest's Diamond series uses 100% pure silver conductor wires. I would hate to guess how much that cable is going to cost.AVR: Onkyo Tx-NR808
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You missed the point I believe. It's a matter of getting the job done from A to B no matter who made the cable. Best buy selling it or Audioquest making it or MIT answering a question about it.
It all comes full circle. Think of this , does it take 36k to get a signal from a amp to a speaker correctly? Does it take 2200.00 to get the Digital signal correctly? So many factors I was looking for some common ground.
In that case Dan, why aren't you using low voltage wire from Home Depot. After all, it will get the job done from A to B.
For those of us that know your history you're coming off as quite the hypocrite and any respect you may have had is going down the drain quickly.inspiredsports wrote:I just always get the impression (maybe wrongly) that you are uncomfortable when someone states they have experienced improvement at a price point higher than that with which you are comfortable.
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LOL.. just flashed to some deep-voiced dude selling "investment grade" interconnects on basic cable...Audio Quest's Diamond series uses 100% pure silver conductor wires. I would hate to guess how much that cable is going to cost.SomeBasicCableDude wrote:"Why put your precious metal fundage is useless coins, barstock or ETF certificates, when you can enjoy it in your Living Room or Den...
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Comparing $2200 shoes, $2200 handbags and $2200 men's suits to $2200 cables really isn't a good comparison. Clothing and accessories are fashion meant to be seen by others. It is a direct reflection of the image one wants to portray to others.
Cables on the other hand are used to meet a simple function, transmitting a signal from point A to point B.
Really? Clothing and accessories are only good for fashion meant to be seen by others? Clothing and accessories are not used to meet a simple function?
Shoes simple function: protection for the feet.
Clothes simple function: protection for the body.
Handbag simple function: carrying small items that would be impractical or impossible to carry in clothes pockets.
Yeah, we all know that transmitting a signal from point A to point B is a trivial task. That is why telecommunications companies have spent billions of $$$ over the last 100 years developing different types of cable connectors and cables with various types of wire geometries, shielding, conductor materials, and insulation.
I sent this email a few days ago and got a response that they will respond to my question. Must be difficult to answer my direct and straight question.
Think about your work as a custom installer and consider how much time you can devote during the day to answering technical email questions. Engineers at audio companies, like the technicians who install A/V gear, are not idly sitting around waiting on questions to come in. Most of the time the person who can answer a specific question has to be found. Then that person has to find time to answer the question. Sometimes the question may require research. Sometimes people have pressing priorities, like deadlines, and can't get back to you right away.
Many years ago I was able to call Polk's engineering department directly and get technical questions answered immediately. Now I have to go through customer service and getting an answer, if I get one at all, ranges from a few days to a few weeks.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
DarqueKnight wrote: »Really? Clothing and accessories are only good for fashion meant to be seen by others? Clothing and accessories are not used to meet a simple function?
While I agree with your statement somewhat - $2200 shoes are not for "protecting your feet" - that's what a $12 pair of velcro shoes from Wally World are for.65" Sony X900 (XBR-65X900E)
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Polk Monitor 40's (4)
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While I agree with your statement somewhat - $2200 shoes are not for "protecting your feet" - that's what a $12 pair of velcro shoes from Wally World are for.
I think it depends on where your feet will be. A $12 pair of velcro shoes from Wally World might suffice for walking around the mall. If your feet will be walking around a radioactive toxic cleanup site or walking around the exterior of a space shuttle in orbit, $2200 might not be enough for proper footware.
I understand that spacesuits run in the multiple millions of $$$.
If your goal is just to get a signal from point A to point B and be able to hear it, then any cable will do. If your goal is to get a signal from poin A to point B with the least amount of noise and distortion, then this requires some expertise and expense. As I mentioned before, telecom companies have decades of peer-reviewed published research on this topic.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!









