Looking for 2 channel amp adcom krell rotel

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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited April 2010
    A forum member has this B&K amp for sale at a great price. I am tempted to buy it myself:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98658

    If you want to go really cheap, check out Audiosource. Nice gear for the money.
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited April 2010
    Soundcraftsmen is what I use.
    Make it Funky! :)
  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited April 2010
    A forum member has this B&K amp for sale at a great price. I am tempted to buy it myself:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98658

    If you want to go really cheap, check out Audiosource. Nice gear for the money.

    http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-2-Channel-Bridgeable-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1270712683&sr=8-1

    Could be worth trying just for $h!ts and giggles for <$100.
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
    Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
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  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    JPSmario wrote: »
    I'm real satisfied with my Rotel. I've seen them for $250 on Audiogon; seems like a good price for high current useable at both 8 & 4 ohms. It drives my SDA's easily.

    I was watching this one. Now that ive been researching it, looks like a pretty decent deal for the rtc970 and rb985 for 171. Plus it was local so no shipping.
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    aloutah wrote: »
    I was watching this one. Now that ive been researching it, looks like a pretty decent deal for the rtc970 and rb985 for 171. Plus it was local so no shipping.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160418855622&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited April 2010
    aloutah wrote: »

    So did you win it? If you didn't, Audio Advisor has the Cambridge Audio 340A (50wpc) integrated amp brand new on clearance for $269 shipped. Not a bad deal at all, and an excellent starter amp for a small 2 channel setup.
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
    Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
    Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    So I came across a crown amp I am considering. Just wanted some input since I know nothing about them. Its crown ce1000. First, is this a good choice for 2 channel stereo listening? And second, how much should I offer? Ive always heard crown makes good amps, but wanted input from some of you who may have used this amp or are familiar with it. Thanks
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2010
    Crown are Pro audio amps and generally they don't do well in a hi-fi rig. I would steer clear of all pro audio amps. I had a Crown amp when I was a teenager in the early 80's and it was cool, but I was a teenager and knowing what I know now.............I'm embarassed.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2010
    You should check out Esoteric's line of amps.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Crown are Pro audio amps and generally they don't do well in a hi-fi rig. I would steer clear of all pro audio amps. I had a Crown amp when I was a teenager in the early 80's and it was cool, but I was a teenager and knowing what I know now.............I'm embarassed.

    H9

    Thats why I was asking. I saw it was a pro amp, and didnt know how that would work in a home setup. It also has way more power than I need. Someone locally just has one for 50 bucks. Like I said, I dont know much, if anything about them and wanted some guidance. Thanks.
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    Im still thinking just getting another gfa535. A guy locally has one for sale. He said its one owner and works perfectly, he also did a cap upgrade. He wants 150 though, just seems way too much to me. The last two I have watched on ebay have gone for 65 and 95 last week. If he would drop to 100 I would take it.
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    What is the boards opinion on a yamaha p-2200?
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    I know its supposed to be a pro amp, just wondering how it would fare for in home use. Or is it just better to stay away from pro amps all together?
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2010
    When you find a market where you can find stuff at half its market value, please let me know.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2010
    Ricardo wrote: »
    When you find a market where you can find stuff at half its market value, please let me know.

    Isn't this guy a riot! I'd pay $150 for a recapped 535 from a private seller long before I'd pay $65-95 for what is most likely an Ebay nightmare. You get what you pay for for in most cases.

    H9

    P.s. That amp in very good conditon is easily worth $100 w/o the recap. Add to that a one owner piece, local and upgraded.........easily worth the $150
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited April 2010
    Have you seen this older NAD on AudiogoN yet, for $109? It even looks like it has two sets of binding posts, and maybe he'll accept less if it doesn't sell quickly.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1276030594&/Nad-2100-Power-Amplifier-power

    It's a 2100 model, with 60w/ch (200w/ch "dynamic" power), and it's for sale by a member with a very high sales rating for AudiogoN.

    Product info: http://www.nadelectronics.com/img/datasheets/NAD_2100.pdf
    Alea jacta est!
  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited April 2010
    aloutah wrote: »
    Im still thinking just getting another gfa535. A guy locally has one for sale. He said its one owner and works perfectly, he also did a cap upgrade. He wants 150 though, just seems way too much to me. The last two I have watched on ebay have gone for 65 and 95 last week. If he would drop to 100 I would take it.

    If you really like the Adcom, go check it out, offer him a bit less and if not $150 is really not a bad price, especially if its recapped. If not, half of the fun of this hobby is trying new things, so give something else a try. The used market is expansive it seems, as so many people are always upgrading, which allows the used but still good stuff to pass down onto us :)
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
    Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
    Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC
  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited April 2010
    Kex wrote: »
    Have you seen this older NAD on AudiogoN yet, for $109? It even looks like it has two sets of binding posts, and maybe he'll accept less if it doesn't sell quickly.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1276030594&/Nad-2100-Power-Amplifier-power

    It's a 2100 model, with 60w/ch (200w/ch "dynamic" power), and it's for sale by a member with a very high sales rating for AudiogoN.

    Product info: http://www.nadelectronics.com/img/datasheets/NAD_2100.pdf

    Headroom on NAD's are EXCELLENT. MY integrated is only 50wpc, but you couldn't tell by listening to it ;) The toroidal transformer inside of it is huge for this size of amp and it really can output some reserve current (dynamic headroom is rated at 160wpc). My only concern would be age. The Adcom you could fully check out first and it has been recapped, which is always good for the long haul.
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
    Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
    Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    Zitro wrote: »
    Headroom on NAD's are EXCELLENT. MY integrated is only 50wpc, but you couldn't tell by listening to it ;) The toroidal transformer inside of it is huge for this size of amp and it really can output some reserve current (dynamic headroom is rated at 160wpc). My only concern would be age. The Adcom you could fully check out first and it has been recapped, which is always good for the long haul.

    That NAD has pretty favorable reviews, plus seems like a good price. Do you have to be a paid subsrciber to buy something on audiogon? I might just go see what cash in hand will do for the guy with the 535 locally though first.
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited April 2010
    aloutah wrote: »
    That NAD has pretty favorable reviews, plus seems like a good price. Do you have to be a paid subsrciber to buy something on audiogon? ...
    No, you don't have to pay anything to join AudiogoN, and it is far safer to deal there than eBay, if you communicate correctly with the seller. With feedback like his, I wouldn't hesitate to buy from this seller. It's not quite as personal as Club Polk, but it's almost as safe if you apply common sense rules to the transaction IMO.

    There are few worthwhile amplifiers for $100, but this is one of them. It is stable at 4 ohms and 2 ohms (as are all NAD amplifiers, and even all NAD receivers). As Zitro suggested, you will be very surprised by the power output, despite the seemingly modest rating. I'm not sure I've ever seen it listed so low before. Shipping will probably be about $25, but you may be able to offer $110 with shipping included, or at least split shipping with the seller. None of the newer NAD amplifiers, even those that are over 10 years old, are going to sell for this low IMO.

    The nice thing about an AudiogoN seller with feedback like this guy/gal, is that you can ask him exactly what's right and what's wrong with it, and I wouldn't expect him/her to give you any misleading information such as you might anticipate with some eBay sellers.
    Alea jacta est!
  • carvcom
    carvcom Posts: 240
    edited April 2010
    There was a krell on a local classified recently for 300 but that was a bit out of my range and I dont know much about them

    I think I would have jumped on a working Krell amp for $300.

    The smaller Carvers are really good deals now, like the TFM-25 or 35You can usually find either for under $200. Later when you have more jack, you can pick up another, switch them to mono, & have some decent power.
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    carvcom wrote: »
    There was a krell on a local classified recently for 300 but that was a bit out of my range and I dont know much about them

    I think I would have jumped on a working Krell amp for $300.

    The smaller Carvers are really good deals now, like the TFM-25 or 35You can usually find either for under $200. Later when you have more jack, you can pick up another, switch them to mono, & have some decent power.[/QUOTE

    Yeah, guess I didnt know what I was missing. I had heard the name, but didnt want to spend 300 on an amp. Anyway, im sure someone was happy with a great deal.
  • virtualdean
    virtualdean Posts: 286
    edited April 2010
    aloutah wrote: »
    The tmf35x I was watching on ebay went for 170, I thought that was too much, but apparently people are paying double that. There was a krell on a local classified recently for 300 but that was a bit out of my range and I dont know much about them. Just knew the name and the guy wouldnt drop the price anyway. So there are some good deals out there. Im basically looking to pay about half of the market value. So im maybe looking for an amp this forum would price around 400, but only paying maybe 200.

    TFM35X typically go in the 375-475 range depending on whether its been serviced or not. I wanted one desperately when I was shopping and kept getting outbid by wiser bidders than me. If one went for $170 its was either broke or hot or a fluke. Of course, I have the ebay curse..in which prices drop precipitously when I'm not looking and rise the same way when I'm shopping.
  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited April 2010
    aloutah wrote: »
    Im still thinking just getting another gfa535. A guy locally has one for sale. He said its one owner and works perfectly, he also did a cap upgrade. He wants 150 though, just seems way too much to me. The last two I have watched on ebay have gone for 65 and 95 last week. If he would drop to 100 I would take it.

    THe problem here is your dealing with Ebay and a person you can see in person. I am leary of ebay people seeing a lot of them selling at times have NO IDEA what they are selling or know anything about the history of it. For example a pair of MIT T4's were up for sale for 20 bucks. Someone removed the ends to use the bare wire. The seller when asked why this was done said he didn't see anything wrong with them, and that this possibly ment it was bi-wired.

    If you can get the amp for 125.00 even thats a good deal. at least he could probably tell you the history of it rather than some random person off ebay that has no idea.
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    I would much rather buy from someone locally. If not to hear the story and see it before buying, then to save on shipping. If I want to spend 100-150 for an amp, then the $50 shipping most ebayers are asking will eat that budget up. If Im patient im sure I will find the deal im looking for.
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited April 2010
    I found a Harman Kardon Citation 19 for sale locally. I dont know much about it, but he said to just make an offer. He said he is upgrading to Vincent gear and is getting rid of it. Any idea about this amp and maybe a value approx? He also has a nikko alpha 450. Any thoughts on it?
  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited May 2010
    I havent had any success finding a new power amp, but I did pick up a new integrated today. Its a Kenwood KA 9100. Someone here is sleeping but anxious to give it a listen tomorrow. I was actually buying some JBL L100's from a guy and he said he had a vintage marantz around he wanted to let go as well. I was excited to see what he had, but it turned out to be a kenwood integrated when I got there. I know nothing about vintage kenwood, but it was in perfect cosmetic condition. Used, but wrapped in the original plastic and in the original box. Curiosity got me and I went for it. Ive been reading reviews and I guess its a pretty decent amp that is somewhat sought after. He said he bought it new in the late 70's and has had it in storage for a long time. He did say it had a scratchy pot, but otherwise supposed to be in great working condition. Anyone have any experience or opinion with/on this amp? Also, im curious what a rough value of it might be. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!