New pair of Cherry Polk Audio LSI15 NIB W/Warranty $975. shipped

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  • stevelarrison
    stevelarrison Posts: 63
    edited June 2003
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    Originally posted by Tour2ma
    e-tool.

    You appear to be on the path to do the right thing...


    One of us has a problem interpreting human nature. I see this as a continuation of what started when he classified open box speakers as "new in box".
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited June 2003
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    Steve,

    The guy needs a little slack and a little encouragement IMO, OK? Ask yourself how your post helps at this point.

    The NIB thing is mis-used a lot for open stock items. When a seller shows a picture of the "NIB" item out of the box, that just means he doesn't understand the term.
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2003
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    It's a dead horse for sure...

    Lets turn the scenerio around. This is purely hypothetical. Lets say the method of payment bombed somehow after the speaks were shipped. How happy would e-tool be to wait several weeks for a solution? Especially if the buyer were to tell him "I assumed there was money in the account but if the bank can't figure out where it went then sorry, there is nothing I can do about it. It's totally up to them."

    Lets get real here. This doesn't fly EITHER way. Either you take care of your buyer or you don't. It is obvious which decision you made.

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • stevelarrison
    stevelarrison Posts: 63
    edited June 2003
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    In my opinion, he takes any advantage of slack, real or perceived, that he can get. More won't help.

    I don't believe that he didn't understand the term NIB. The Ebay auction he won was for OPEN BOX speakers. He claimed the box was only opened to check the contents for damage.

    When the slow ship issue came up, he claimed to have sent the item on May 19, even though Fed-Ex tracking records as well as the arrival of the product told a different story.

    He claimed that the rushed packing job was due to being accussed of fraud on this forum. Yet the first statement of concern about the arrival of the speakers wasn't made until 5/27. If he really shipped them on 5/19, how could accusations made 8 days later impact how they were packed?

    Others have made statements about Fed-Ex insurance claim methods that imply that ET wasn't familiar with the process.

    When you have yet another attempt to bury the issue and ignore responsibility for his own actions, I find it hard to praise him for "doing the right thing". From the first mention of damaged goods, he hasn't taken interest in doing the right thing, and it doesn't appear to have changed yet.
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  • stevelarrison
    stevelarrison Posts: 63
    edited June 2003
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    Originally posted by madmax001
    It's a dead horse for sure...

    Lets turn the scenerio around. This is purely hypothetical. Lets say the method of payment bombed somehow after the speaks were shipped. How happy would e-tool be to wait several weeks for a solution? Especially if the buyer were to tell him "I assumed there was money in the account but if the bank can't figure out where it went then sorry, there is nothing I can do about it. It's totally up to them."

    Lets get real here. This doesn't fly EITHER way. Either you take care of your buyer or you don't. It is obvious which decision you made.

    madmax

    The only difference is that if the payment didn't go through, the seller wouldn't be out anything that wasn't recoverable. Sure, not having a sale completed is a bummer. Especially if the seller needed the money in a hurry, but it can be overcome by finding someone to complete the transaction.

    If ET doesn't own up to his responsibility, then nothing is going to make the deal right.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2003
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    When things are handled appropriatly, the buyer and seller share the profit. (or the loss).

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • Jimmie
    Jimmie Posts: 103
    edited July 2003
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    The buyer in this situation should not be responsible for any of this mess. The buyer is absolutely helpless if he assumes the packages will be packaged correctly and insurred for at least their value.
    The right thing to do is for the seller to take full responsibility, even if he honestly thought everything was kosher, and refund the buyer what he was paid plus pay all shipping charges involved.
    Ups will ship the 15's in the original boxes. There is just no excuse for this blunder. Also, The buyer was not told of the change in packaging and was led to believe they would be shipped in the original boxes.
    There is no way to fairly end this except to make the buyer financially whole just like he never made the deal.
    The seller should eat this circus of errors and try to sell the 15's for salvage price any where he can find someone interested.

    Jimmie
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2003
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  • Jimmie
    Jimmie Posts: 103
    edited July 2003
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    Demiurge,
    Cool poster!! I get it.

    Jimmie
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