New stand

NJPOLKER
NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
edited January 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
I just had to buy a new stand for my components and TV. Soon I will buy a flat screen TV and do away with the old school TV. The TV is the last thing on my mind :)

I know Sal/Laz has one and the President told me Joe has one too. I am not sure if Joe is my pal Joey but I hope so :D

It should be here in a few days and I hope its not a pain in the **** to assemble. Looks simple enough.

Do I need to fill the posts with lead? Any other suggestions? My wife will defiantly notice it because she is going to have to dust it :eek: Just joking, I clean everything regarding my system.
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited January 2010
    sweet! thought I read on here that lead shot was the way to go
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2010
    Lead shot. Use whatever is leftover for your next neighborhood GTG and toss a few in the burgers.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited January 2010
    I have the same one also in black. I have not been able to get the caps off to fill them. I tried but I was afraid I was going to damage something if I tried any harder to get the caps off.

    I do like the rack and it has a nice clean look, not to mention the modular flexibility of the system.

    Scott
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
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  • jaxwired
    jaxwired Posts: 201
    edited January 2010
    super nice rack! Love the look. Might I be so bold to ask the brand, and how much a similar rack would run me?
    2 Channel
    NAD C545 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Bryston BP6 -> Bryston 4B SST2 -> Dynaudio Contour S1.4
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited January 2010
    Do they make racks just for mono block amps?
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited January 2010
    MillerLiteScott wrote: »
    I have the same one also in black. I have not been able to get the caps off to fill them. I tried but I was afraid I was going to damage something if I tried any harder to get the caps off.

    I do like the rack and it has a nice clean look, not to mention the modular flexibility of the system.

    Scott

    you can add another shelf to the rack?
    panasonic th-50pz85u
    pioneer elite vsx-92txh
    pioneer elite bdp-05fd
    emotiva xpa-3
    monster power hdp 2550
    sa 8300 hd dvr
    sda 2b's
    fronts - rti a9's
    center - csi a6
    surrounds - fxi a6's
    sub - polk dsw pro 600
    harmony one
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    superjunior wrote: »
    you can add another shelf to the rack?
    Yes.
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Do they make racks just for mono block amps?
    Yes.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2010
    That is hotness.
    Jake
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    Thanks guys.

    It will be nice to see more of my components for a change. The stand is far more revealing so "she" will notice more but I am not buying anything not noticeable for awhile, ie: the speakers I just bought.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    Drew & Scott to get the end caps off, take a long flat blade screw driver with some girth and place through the hole where the spike go until it touches the endcaps. Then with a rubber mallet gently tap the screw driver around the perimeter of the end cap and it will pop off without any damage. Next feel inside the end cap and you will feel rubber plugs which plug up the crossbars. Remove all the rubber plugs and put them away for a rainy day. Replace the end caps by placing it back on top and gently tap them down with the rubber mallet until they are well seated.

    Next step, get about six bags of #9 bird shot, place a funnel in the hole where the spikes go and start pouring the shot into the racks. Make sure you raise and lower the rack while doing this to get the shot in every hollow post and crossbar evenly. Make sure to leave some room where the spike hole is and then screw the spikes in tightly.

    It takes a little patience and getting use to but once you've done the first tier the rest just zips by.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited January 2010
    some vintage gear would look awesome in that stand with the brushed supports.
    Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
    Mirage PS-12
    LG BDP-550
    Motorola HD FIOS DVR
    Panasonic 42" Plasma
    XBOX 360[/SIZE]

    Office stuff

    Allied 395 receiver
    Pioneer CDP PD-M430
    RT8t's & Wharfedale Diamond II's[/SIZE]

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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    Thanks Joe your a champion.

    I am going to order the lead shot now.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited January 2010
    the brand is vti.
    http://www.racksandstands.com/VTI-C108.html

    here's the vti rack that i have.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Thanks Joe your a champion.

    I am going to order the lead shot now.

    I forgot to mention that you must take all five endcaps off and remove the rubber plugs so that the crossbeams are exposed and open so the shot goes into all the crossbeams.
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  • zeppage2
    zeppage2 Posts: 196
    edited January 2010
    I found shot to be prohibitively expensive and opted for play sand instead.
    Not to mention there are health concerns with the lead dust:(
    Actually, I have never heard of filling equipment stands with shot/sand, only speaker stands...
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited January 2010
    The lead has more mass. If you are worried about the dust, ok. I doubt your sand is sterilized...
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    zeppage2 wrote: »
    I found shot to be prohibitively expensive and opted for play sand instead.
    Not to mention there are health concerns with the lead dust:(
    Actually, I have never heard of filling equipment stands with shot/sand, only speaker stands...

    Are you kidding me??
    After all the bird/buck shot I have released from my shotguns thats the least of my worries.
    You gotta be from California:D
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    amulford wrote: »
    The lead has more mass. If you are worried about the dust, ok. I doubt your sand is sterilized...

    LMAO
    Maybe I will use New Jersey sand :o its gotta be more sterile than lead :(:(
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited January 2010
    Don't want to mess up your thread and take it off the subject but since it's about VTI are these amp racks any good? At the price it seems like a great deal.

    404+Series+Amp+Stand.jpg
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    LMAO
    Maybe I will use New Jersey sand :o its gotta be more sterile than lead :(:(

    Drew, you can also use reptile sand as it won't absorb airborne moisture and become moldy but it is a real pain in the arse to work with and is very messy. I would definitely stay away from playground sand as it has a propensity to absorb moisture especially on the NJ humid days.

    Go with the shot, it really deadens the ring, resonance and airborne vibrations as well as foot falls.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Don't want to mess up your thread and take it off the subject but since it's about VTI are these amp racks any good? At the price it seems like a great deal.

    404+Series+Amp+Stand.jpg

    They are good for the price. Just make sure you fill them with either lead shot or reptile sand and use the method I wrote above to make sure the crossbeams get filled too.
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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited January 2010
    I have used the VTI BL404 with one additionalshelf for a two years. Great openess and versitility. Drains excess resonance/vibration very well for this price point. I have my TT on the top shelf (5th level) with no problems not (floor is wood on a slab)
    integrated w/DAC module Gryphon Diablo 300
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    cartridges Miyajima Madake, Ortofon Windfeld Ti, Ortofon
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I forgot to mention that you must take all five endcaps off and remove the rubber plugs so that the crossbeams are exposed and open so the shot goes into all the crossbeams.

    Thanks for the follow up and recommendation.

    Will this do the job? How many bags do you think will do the trick?

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=192129
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Thanks for the follow up and recommendation.

    Will this do the job? How many bags do you think will do the trick?

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=192129

    Six bags should cover it. However I would look to a local gun shop in that you may get it cheaper per bag plus with that kind of weight, shipping costs are going to be high. Plus if you get it from a local gun shop and find you need more you can just take a ride over. If you've found that you don't need all six bags, they'll take any full bag back for a refund.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    Thanks Joe
    You got mail, again :p

    Gun shops are rare in this crime ridden communist state I live in but thanks for the suggestion.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    Doctor R wrote: »
    I have used the VTI BL404 with one additionalshelf for a two years. Great openess and versitility. Drains excess resonance/vibration very well for this price point. I have my TT on the top shelf (5th level) with no problems not (floor is wood on a slab)

    Hey Doc
    Did you fill the posts? If so what with? If not, why not??
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2010
    I'm thinking of doing this to my VTI rack thanks to Joe's instructions. How may pounds of shot approx? I see you said six bags but how many pounds? 6-25lb bags?
    -Kevin
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    vc69 wrote: »
    I'm thinking of doing this to my VTI rack thanks to Joe's instructions. How may pounds of shot approx? I see you said six bags but how many pounds? 6-25lb bags?

    Yes sir! Atleast to start out. When you've completed the task you will be bowled over by the difference and improvement in SQ having all your components isolated from the airborne vibrations as well as the isolation from each other.

    Might I also suggest getting getting Isol-Pads to go under your components for further isolation. You can get them from Quest for Sound; http://www.questforsound.com/accessories/acc_sqIsolPads.htm

    Steven Monte is the owner. If you tell him you are a member of this forum and drop my name he will give you a great discount.

    I use one under each foot of each component and they really work wonders.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Thanks Joe
    You got mail, again :p

    Gun shops are rare in this crime ridden communist state I live in but thanks for the suggestion.

    I've received no email Drew. You may want to consider looking up some gun shops on the PA side of the river. With gas and tolls I think you will still save money vs the shipping from MO.
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  • zeppage2
    zeppage2 Posts: 196
    edited January 2010
    same item here:

    but only .40-.52 each :)

    http://www.hvactool.com/catalog.php3?hcategory=19&hsubcat=83&hpagenum=2&hproductid=MA-002RR

    the 2x2 size is optimal
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