The rise and fall of western ....

rubin
rubin Posts: 565
edited October 2009 in The Clubhouse
Rember that phrase? 15,000,000 dollars per day x 365 days per year x2,000 years will pay off the current national debt.(good luck Obama) Guess we all better learn to speak chinese,what a somber thought.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,044
    edited October 2009
    Seems like not that long ago Clinton left the country with a huge budget suplus. I agree, someday China will crush us...
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2009
    Really guys?
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited October 2009
    i remember as a kid i used to ALWAYS hear, "BUY AMERICAN!".

    "USED TO" being the operative words. hell, now you can't hardly do so anyway.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited October 2009
    In before it gets locked. Another political thread. Shame ** Shame ** Shame
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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited October 2009
    This can only end in a bad argument I believe and thus I agree with ^^^ that this will get cut off very quickly.


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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,849
    edited October 2009
    Rubin get off the magic bus and look at all the cellophane flowers,tangerine trees and marmalade skies
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  • sTiLlLeArNiNg
    sTiLlLeArNiNg Posts: 805
    edited October 2009
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    Seems like not that long ago Clinton left the country with a huge budget suplus. I agree, someday China will crush us...

    China is VERY quickly coming to the forefront of the global economy! I say in ~10yrs they will be the "leader's" :o
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited October 2009
    sTiLlLeArNiNg wrote: »
    China is VERY quickly coming to the forefront of the global economy! I say in ~10yrs they will be the "leader's" :o

    The same "they" said that 10yrs ago. The global economy is hurting, not just the US.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited October 2009
    Well, seeing as how EVERYONE want's to dump the USD as the world currency standard, I wouldn't be too worried.
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    Holy crap. I vote for Lockdown ASAP. :o
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    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,381
    edited October 2009
    sTiLlLeArNiNg wrote: »
    China is VERY quickly coming to the forefront of the global economy! I say in ~10yrs they will be the "leader's" :o


    deleted....
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  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited October 2009
    In b4 404.

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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited October 2009
    My statement is reality. Our country is in severe debt. If we say nothing ,it will bury us.I'm very concerned that Washington is in the dark as to what to do to resolve this. We've got to pressure them into motivation.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2009
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    Seems like not that long ago Clinton left the country with a huge budget suplus. I agree, someday China will crush us...
    Empires rises and fall, always happened through history. Nothing last forever!
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2009
    rubin wrote: »
    My statement is reality. Our country is in severe debt. If we say nothing ,it will bury us.I'm very concerned that Washington is in the dark as to what to do to resolve this. We've got to pressure them into motivation.

    Well this post ought to do it, good job!
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited October 2009
    rubin wrote: »
    My statement is reality. Our country is in severe debt. If we say nothing ,it will bury us.I'm very concerned that Washington is in the dark as to what to do to resolve this. We've got to pressure them into motivation.
    This is not the place to do so. This is an audio board, not a political platform.
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited October 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    This is not the place to do so. This is an audio board, not a political platform.

    Just one way to bring an important issue to the attention of all us common folk.
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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited October 2009
    But this isn't the place to do so.


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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2009
    This doesn't necessarily have to turn into a political thread....

    Opportunities are there for US companies in China to sell their wares....i.e. GM's Buick is a big seller in China. However, I think the management of many US companies are too shortsighted and will eventually sell out their US resources (human resources and otherwise) to less inexpensive off-shore operations as soon as the opportunity arises to make a bigger profit. Loyalty to your employees? How much does that worth?
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited October 2009
    rubin wrote: »
    Just one way to bring an important issue to the attention of all us common folk.

    Do you really think theres a person on this forum that does NOT know how much debt were in?

    This is NOT the place for this. It is in the rules...NO POLITICS.

    If you cant follow those simple rules, your stay here will be short.
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited October 2009
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    This doesn't necessarily have to turn into a political thread....

    Opportunities are there for US companies in China to sell their wares....i.e. GM's Buick is a big seller in China. However, I think the management of many US companies are too shortsighted and will eventually sell out their US resources (human resources and otherwise) to less inexpensive off-shore operations as soon as the opportunity arises to make a bigger profit. Loyalty to your employees? How much does that worth?

    It's harsh reality that employees aren't much more than tools of necessity,who are more and more being replaced by automation. Good for business not for us. The I watch your back you watch mine attitude,or sticking together seems lost.And what does the gov't think about us? Well you spend more time in jail for tax evasion tnan for murder! Money is more valuable than human life to them.
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  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited October 2009
    C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!

    I want to know if anyone else really wants In-And-Out Burgers to start moving more the direction of the MidWest...

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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited October 2009
    That'd be great because I read that they were voted as the best fast food hamburgers in the country.


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  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited October 2009
    I know! I had a friend that took off to San Fransisco on vacation for a couple weeks. he came back a Believer. Tshirt, bumperstickers, the works.

    It's been a couple for years and he still talks about it.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,381
    edited October 2009
    everpress wrote: »
    C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!

    I want to know if anyone else really wants In-And-Out Burgers to start moving more the direction of the MidWest...

    I'll take a 4x4 with my fries animal style....:)
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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,209
    edited October 2009
    In-And-Out that would be great over here in DFW. I will be sure to stop by one the next time I'm in Vegas.

    Rubin please stop wasting our time with this nonsense.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    +2 on the in 'n out.










    Burger.
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  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited October 2009
    This thread is now about good cheeseburgers.

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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited October 2009
    I will be in Vegas for the Super Bowl and bachelor party, so I will have to hit up the In-and-Out when I'm there as well...I'm sure I'll need something to cure a hangover on at least one of the 4 days I'm there.


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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited October 2009
    everpress wrote: »
    C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!

    I want to know if anyone else really wants In-And-Out Burgers to start moving more the direction of the MidWest...

    Don't stop in the Midwest! Keep moving east until you hit water!
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