2010 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees announced
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Just in case you have not heard....
Possible live performance by Genesis with Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett? All 4 members of ABBA appearing together?
The chances of ABBA appearing together, much less performing, are absolute zero... Anna-Frid suffers from a deep-seated fear of flying and stage-fright of all things. Couple that with the fact she despizes Agentha for ruining her marriage to Bjorn, and Bjorn for allowing it to happen, and you have a very powerful reason ABBA will never be seen together again. Like the Beatles, they have been offered hundreds of millions for a single performance, and have been forced to decline them because of Anna.
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How many kids do yo think have picked up an instrument just because of KISS in the last 40 years? I say thousand's. DimeBag Darrell and Vinnie Paul of Pantera, Skid Row, FooFighters. There are a thousand Bands alone that play just because of KISS. so the music is not the likes of RUSH or ZEPPELIN who cares really. For every child that picked up a guitar or stepped up to the mic or played the drums KISS has had an "ENORMOUS" impact on the music scene not just marketing.Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎
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KISS has even been influential in Country Music... Just ask Garth Brooks! He claims that among his biggest influences when growing up was Gene Simmons. He started playing guitar so he could pretend to be KISS.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Kiss musically sucks. Rush WAYYYYYYYYYY better imo.
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TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »How many kids do yo think have picked up an instrument just because of KISS in the last 40 years? I say thousand's. DimeBag Darrell and Vinnie Paul of Pantera, Skid Row, FooFighters. There are a thousand Bands alone that play just because of KISS. so the music is not the likes of RUSH or ZEPPELIN who cares really. For every child that picked up a guitar or stepped up to the mic or played the drums KISS has had an "ENORMOUS" impact on the music scene not just marketing.
I'll agree they "made an impact" on many youngsters, they made an impact on me...I spent many hours in school drawing KISS related stuff all over my book covers and folders but never cared for much of their music. I can say that there were 2 KISS songs that I even liked...Detroit Rock City and Black Diamond....Beth was puke. Kiss has a place in music history I'll agree, but there are those more deserving imo.
"Cowboys from Hell"....classic tune, especially cranked to 11!"Thats great... but how does it sound"
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nooshinjohn wrote: »KISS has even been influential in Country Music... Just ask Garth Brooks! He claims that among his biggest influences when growing up was Gene Simmons. He started playing guitar so he could pretend to be KISS.
You mean Chris Gaines!:eek:"Thats great... but how does it sound"
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I equate KISS fans to those of Jerry Springer, tasteless. In fact, I had the pleasure of telling them that they SUCKED, up close and personal like.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I'm sorry...I just can't get behind a band that has a top ten song that was co-wrote by Micheal Bolton...you gotta draw the line somewhere!
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Knucklehead wrote: »Like anything in life....you either like something or you dont. Having 3 kids aged from 11 to 21, I have heard a whole lot worse.
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Amen to that, brother! (five kids, myself....) I think we need a badge of honor or something!
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I think as we move ahead, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is going to spark more and more debate regarding its inductees. I thought a nice bridge was laid out with the recent inductions of The Clash, Talking Heads and The Ramones (all deserving in my opinion). Not to start a generational squabble, but the time may have come and gone to rely solely on the notion of a Classic Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - as rock and roll didn't simply die once the seventies were over.
Someone mentioned inducting The Pixies and Sonic Youth in an earlier post and I think they exist as a perfect example of bands that some will say "of course... that's obvious" and others will simply be "who the hell are they?".
I do think the HOF is making some stretches to modernize. And as such, will more than likely give many individuals ammunition to scoff at subsequent inductees deserving or not. The key is that they at least attempt to stay the course with their rationale. Otherwise, the baby gets thrown out with the bath water. On the flip side, attempting to hold onto the past by inducting someone like ABBA just seems downright silly.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
zombie boy 2000 wrote: »I think as we move ahead, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is going to spark more and more debate regarding its inductees. I thought a nice bridge was laid out with the recent inductions of The Clash, Talking Heads and The Ramones (all deserving in my opinion). Not to start a generational squabble, but the time may have come and gone to rely solely on the notion of a Classic Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - as rock and roll didn't simply die once the seventies were over.
Someone mentioned inducting The Pixies and Sonic Youth in an earlier post and I think they exist as a perfect example of bands that some will say "of course... that's obvious" and others will simply be "who the hell are they?".
I do think the HOF is making some stretches to modernize. And as such, will more than likely give many individuals ammunition to scoff at subsequent inductees deserving or not. The key is that they at least attempt to stay the course with their rationale. Otherwise, the baby gets thrown out with the bath water. On the flip side, attempting to hold onto the past by inducting someone like ABBA just seems downright silly.
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Bottom line...The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a business and as such must sell it's product and bring people through the doors. In order to continue to do that it must appeal to wide demographics and wider genre's. Kiss in the RRHF will sell tickets because they will have Kiss displays featuring the costumes etc. Rush although much much more talented unfortunatley will sell less tickets because their displays will be less "WIZZ BANG". It doesn't take a pocket protectored accountant to do that math. It sucks but it's true that talent is less important than saleability.
Now if the Hall of Fame was solely based on talent, who is already inducted and who will be inducted would look completely different. However, as long as it is run like a business, bands like Kiss will make it long before bands like Rush. Sad but true.SDA-1C (full mods)
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Bottom line...The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a business and as such must sell it's product and bring people through the doors. In order to continue to do that it must appeal to wide demographics and wider genre's. Kiss in the RRHF will sell tickets because they will have Kiss displays featuring the costumes etc. Rush although much much more talented unfortunatley will sell less tickets because their displays will be less "WIZZ BANG". It doesn't take a pocket protectored accountant to do that math. It sucks but it's true that talent is less important than saleability.
Now if the Hall of Fame was solely based on talent, who is already inducted and who will be inducted would look completely different. However, as long as it is run like a business, bands like Kiss will make it long before bands like Rush. Sad but true.
I agree with everyone, Rush should be in, the talent is not a question. Im not sure why we are comparing the 2 bands anyway. If we are talking about talent as far as playing musical instruments, sure Im with you on that. It seems as though many bands including Rush must be less talented at marketing themselves, that too is part of your legacy as a band. Who would I rather see in concert? Kiss anyday (and Ive seen both bands), I can listen to Rush on a CD and get the same effect, not knocking Rush, but it is what it is. Its the business.Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
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I guess I am wondering when this became a bash thread against Kiss. I thought we were talking about the R&R hall of fame. So many haters man..My Main Gear
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Well... I gotta say. A "bash thread against KISS" is a nice change of pace from the annual "why the hell is Rush not in the R&R HOF?!?!" thread I can pencil in every year on my calendar.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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From the Associated Press....When Genesis gets inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next month, founding member Peter Gabriel won't be there.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame president Joel Peresman said in a statement Thursday that Gabriel says he has a scheduling conflict with his tour that begins in Europe.
Along with Gabriel, the band's original lineup included Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks, Anthony Phillips and Steve Hackett. Phil Collins joined the band later and replaced Gabriel as lead vocalist in 1976.
Genesis was inspirational in the progressive rock movement. Gabriel's vision helped define the genre's theatrical approach to a rock show with costume changes, innovative stage design, and intricate lighting effects.
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I think KISS is well known even today. You see Gene Simmons doing the Dr. Pepper commercial. Maybe the RRHF has lost some its appeal. Seems like some groups ought to be in before some others.
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Knucklehead wrote: »I agree with everyone, Rush should be in, the talent is not a question. Im not sure why we are comparing the 2 bands anyway. If we are talking about talent as far as playing musical instruments, sure Im with you on that. It seems as though many bands including Rush must be less talented at marketing themselves, that too is part of your legacy as a band. Who would I rather see in concert? Kiss anyday (and Ive seen both bands), I can listen to Rush on a CD and get the same effect, not knocking Rush, but it is what it is. Its the business.
I believe YES should have been/be in before Genesis and before Rush. Geddy Lee himself said that himself. IMO they are much better song writers and musicians than any members of Rush and Genesis. That is NOT to say that members of Rush and Genesis are "slouches" by any means, just not up to par with YES.
Kiss, on the other hand is just not worth putting on the "well maybe we'll put them in" list, IMO. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
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The Rock and Roll HOF will never mean s**t to me as long as Rush is not in. This is truly a travesty.
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