2010 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees announced

Danny Tse

Still no Yes, Moody Blues, Chicago, Hall & Oates, etc.

If Genesis is voted in, maybe it will be the only chance to see the classic 5 member lineup live in performance....

KISS, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Genesis, the Hollies, LL Cool J and Jimmy Cliff are first-time nominees among a dozen finalists for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, according to a list released this morning by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. They join returning candidates ABBA, the Chantels, Darlene Love, Laura Nyro, the Stooges and Donna Summer.

Five of the 12 nominees will be chosen for induction from ballots cast by more than 500 music industry voters. An announcement of the inductees is expected in January, and the Hall's 25th Annual Induction Ceremony will take place March 15 at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York City. Broadcast plans have not yet been announced.

Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith told Billboard.com that "it's a real honor to be nominated in our first year of eligibility. Obviously the Hall of Fame has excellent musical taste." But the year's big story could turn out to be KISS, which has been eligible since 1999 but, like shock rock predecessor Alice Cooper, has famously been snubbed by the Hall's nominating committee and has made some harsh comments about the organization in the past. But the group's Paul Stanley recently noted that a Rock Hall induction would cause he and his longtime KISS partner Gene Simmons to consider which of the group's members they'd like to have enter with them.

"There's been a lot of people who've been a part of this, some longer than others..and some who deserve recognition more than others," Stanley explained. "Even the non-makeup years produced some platinum and double-platinum albums, and we had some very healthy sales in terms of albums and concerts through the '80s and '90s. So if we should ever be asked to accept induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it would be something to think about." The Foundation determines which members of a band are inducted into the Hall, and the ballot lists the four founding members of KISS, including Ace Frehley and Peter Criss.

Hollies co-founder Graham Nash is already in the Hall of Fame with Crosby, Stills & Nash (1997) but said he was "very thrilled" to hear about the Hollies nomination. "There's a long way form here to actually being inducted," noted Nash, who was with the group from 1962-68. "I truly believe the Hollies deserve to be inducted. They were a large part of the early history of what we know as rock 'n' roll. I would be particularly thrilled For Allan Clarke. That's where my heart goes. I'm already in there, but it would be a thrill for me to see it happen for" the Hollies.

Artists are eligible for induction 25 years after their first single or album release.

While the ballots are being mailed to voters, the Hall of Fame is also preparing for its 25th anniversary concerts on Oct. 29-30 at New York's Madison Square Garden, along with the release of a nine-DVD boxed set, "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Live," and the publication of a book, "The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: The First 25 Years."

Toolfan66

KISS is long over due.....

pmckeealaska

I understand why many are applauding Kiss as a nominee. I have a few of their albums and loved them as a kid. That being said, if those guys are getting nominated, then why the hell is Rush being dissed yet again! They are right up there with Kiss in terms of Gold and Platinum records. The whole process of how they decide who gets in seems ridiculous to me. Then again, I am a Rush fanatic and very biased.

Norm Apter

Chili Peppers, Genesis, the Stooges, and Jimmy Cliff all good choices. Just not sure how KISS turns people on. Seems like they had a great theatrical performance going on in the day, but the music....well I just don't get it. Is there anything to tap into? What am I missing here?

Then there's Hall & Oates....again kind of solid but kind of mediocre. This leaves me wondering: what is the point of the R&R Hall of Fame?

Is it just to honor popularity, record sales, or staying ability, groups/soloists who capture the essence of their time (if so, I may be more forgiving for some of the nominees listed above), but if its to honor musicians who really took music in different directions and presented something innovative and creative then many of these nominees seem, to me, not so deserving.

bobman1235

It's about time the Rock legend that is LL Cool J gets in.

Toolfan66

QUOTE: But the group's Paul Stanley recently noted that a Rock Hall induction would cause he and his longtime KISS partner Gene Simmons to consider which of the group's members they'd like to have enter with them.

What the hell is there to consider? Peter Criss and Ace Frelley Period!!! or don't even bother doing it. it took the 4 of them to build Kiss and the shows they did.

for Paul Stanley to even make a comment like that makes him an ****!!


With all this said Rush not being nominated again makes the RnR HOF a bigger ****!!

Bass_Pedal

The idea of a Hall of Fame for something as anti-establishment as rock, to me is a contradiction from the start. That being said, what kind of credibility does this thing have if LL Cool J gets in and Rush doesn't even get nominated?!?!? Who knows what the real criteria are, and to be honest, what the hell does any of it mean at the end of the day? How do you quantify greatness in an art form? Is there a classical music hall of fame, or a painters hall of fame? I guess there are, they are called museums. Hmmm, a rock 'n roll museum? No thanks.

Edit: My mistake, I just learned that the the full name of this thing is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum. Awesome, I wonder if they have any fossels in this museum?

zombie boy 2000

I was actually one of the few people who attempted to defend Run DMC's nomination. But LL Cool J???? Seriously?!? If rap is going to be allowed into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, how would LL get in before the likes of Public Enemy? It just doesn't make sense.

Fongolio

I'd take KISS over LL any day and I can't stand KISS. And still no Rush nomination makes the whole thing a sham.

Toolfan66

The thing with KISS as well as Alice Cooper and David Bowie and a few others is they changed the way things were done. KISS love or hate em you have to give them credit for what they did.

With the release of KISS Alive it really started a wave of live albums to follow Aerosmith, Peter Frampton, Ted Nuggent, AC/DC just to name a few. and the theatrics of the live shows was something to be seen.

Also the bands that came after and followed in there footsteps that some of us have come to love, as well as their live shows.

One of the credits I give KISS is in the 80's they stoped doing what they were doing and followed in the footsteps of the bands that followed them and had a great career in doing so.

I agree that KISS is not the best musical band out there "not by any means" but what they did worked and was and is very successful.

Yes I have a love for them as a band, i was 12 when I got to see them and saw them many times after I have great memories of those days because of them, and got into many other rock bands because of them.

By the way I do think they are the biggest sell out ever as a band as well.

Nuff said!!!

Larry.

obieone

That institution is a JOKE! The fact that the mother of all hoes, Madonna is in there, and not Rush, is incomprehensible!

bklynNupe

zombie boy 2000 wrote: »

I was actually one of the few people who attempted to defend Run DMC's nomination. But LL Cool J???? Seriously?!? If rap is going to be allowed into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, how would LL get in before the likes of Public Enemy? It just doesn't make sense.

TOTALLY AGREE!

I grew up mostly in The Bronx listening to Rap in it’s pre-record/radio days. I also listened to tons of Rock/Punk/ R&B and Jazz as a young teen.
Public Enemy fan when they were only heard on tiny stations like college WNYU radio.
LL fan as well.

However, I not sure if Rap really fits in the R&R hall of fame format?
As a Billion-Dollar industry, I think it should stand on it’s own. Run DMC was a noteworthy exception because they showed a mainstream audience Hip Hop kids had been incorporating snippets of Rock riffs for years. If there is a fair argument for continuing the trend of inducting Rap artist, then you have to go with Public Enemy.
P.E. used just as many Rock riffs as the Beastie Boys from day one. They also had a natural alignment with the Lower East Side Punk scene with screeching sounds and radical lyrics. P.E. introduced a style of Rap to a new audience. Not to be confused with a lot of this Horrible Pop-Dribble being pushed today.

bklynNupe

BTW, r&r hall of fame does suck.
I figured out when I was 21 that I didn’t need any award shows to validate music that I knew was good! I haven’t watched ANY of them in years! I’ve only caught highlights on other programs but that is as far as I go.

George Grand

TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »

The thing with KISS as well as Alice Cooper and David Bowie and a few others is they changed the way things were done. KISS love or hate em you have to give them credit for what they did. Larry.

So, you want me to give them credit for putting on outlandish make-up, and ridiculous clothing?

Darlene Love and Laura Nyro were the only worthy names I think I saw.

Toolfan66

George Grand wrote: »

So, you want me to give them credit for putting on outlandish make-up, and ridiculous clothing?

Darlene Love and Laura Nyro were the only worthy names I think I saw.

LOL!!!:D tell it like it is George..

I do agree the R&R HoF is a joke... Just like the MTV video awards..

hockeyboy

Paul says he's in baby.:D

CTTE

This guy feels the same way about the Hall of Fame as I do:

http://www.zeni.net/pipermail/hammond/2005-February/042354.html

Face

George Grand wrote: »

So, you want me to give them credit for putting on outlandish make-up, and ridiculous clothing?

They're the Bose of rock. All about the marketing and money.

comfortablycurt

I give KISS no credit for anything they ever did, at any point in time.

They suck. Pure and simple.

Clowns in make up that played a bunch of disco/rock that sounded like something that comes out of a donkeys ****.

Just my $.02

Bass_Pedal

Face wrote: »

They're the Bose of rock. All about the marketing and money.

Couldn't say it any better - "The Bose of Rock" Indeed!

And Gene Simmons is a pompous ****! Based on the quality of the hall, their induction seems appropriate...

Toolfan66

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Toolfan66

Face wrote: »

They're the Bose of rock. All about the marketing and money.

Very Fitting, but I will always like them for many reasons. Not that I spend any money on them anymore. Those days stopped 25 years ago.


Edit: I take that back I did buy KISS alive on vinyl a couple months ago.

mmadden28

comfortablycurt wrote: »

Clowns in make up that played a bunch of disco/rock...

Ah come on, the disco album is one of my favorite albums. Come on sing it with me "I was made for loving you baby, you were made for loving me...."
Man now I have to find that track somewhere --It's stuck in my head and I have to hear it--take me back to the more carefree days of my youth. One of the few Vinyl records I had as a kid--might have even had it on 8 Track.
But I gotta ask...ABBA? Donna Summer?

Norm Apter

Bass_Pedal wrote: »

Couldn't say it any better - "The Bose of Rock" Indeed!

And Gene Simmons is a pompous ****! Based on the quality of the hall, their induction seems appropriate...

Yeah, I remember in an interview he gave back in the 1990s, he declared unequivocally that each and every singer / musical performer was motivated only by the prospect of getting laid and that any performer who denies that is a liar. While that may be a consideration for many without talent I found it pretty insulting as a lover of music to hear this sort of statement-as-fact nonsense. Classic problem of an overinflated ego with very little to back it up.

Fongolio

Back in the 70's and 80's I'd always see "KISS" graffitti every where. I was the guy who who added "ucks!". Since we are having a KISS bashathon I just thought I'd share that.

Toxis

That's not creepy at all.

But to even call Kiss music is a joke in itself. Sorry but they are almost at the top of my most hated bands/artists of all time. Almost. That's a title Beyonce will hold until the day she falls off the face of the planet. She can't die because then she'd be a legend and that's just pathetic.

nooshinjohn

Larry on this one. Kiss does deserve to be nominated, but does not deserve to get in right now. Rush has been ignored far to long, as IMHO they are one of the must talented bands ever, both musically and lyrically.

ABBA? They actually should get in to a hall of fame, just not the R&R hall of fame. They to were a great band, but their music was hardly what I would call rock&roll.

Toolfan66

nooshinjohn wrote: »

Larry on this one. Kiss does deserve to be nominated, but does not deserve to get in right now. Rush has been ignored far to long, as IMHO they are one of the must talented bands ever, both musically and lyrically.

ABBA? They actually should get in to a hall of fame, just not the R&R hall of fame. They to were a great band, but their music was hardly what I would call rock&roll.

Hey I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea about why I like KISS, it all has to do for good memories for me.

RUSH by far and wide is a thousand times better then KISS will ever be "PERIOD", RUSH stays in my rotation on my rig. very seldom and i mean very seldom do i ever play KISS.

You will never hear me say KISS RULES. all I was saying is they have a place and that is all. They will never be the likes of the other artist's we love.

If anything the only talent they had was Ace and Peter.

Knucklehead

I think some of us may be looking at KISS from a 2009 perspective, I saw KISS in 1978 when I was 12....They were IT period, nothing heavier and no other show like it. They are being inducted largley on what they did for the industry in general. Gene Simmons is a very smart businessman, he has kept KISS alive for 35 years! Like em' or hate em' they have earned their place.

hockeyboy

KISS changed Rock and Roll whether it was for the better or worse that's for you to judge. Of course they belong in the Rock Hall of Fame, I cannot believe there would even be a debate for a band that has sold over 80 million albums world wide.. Of course Rush also belongs lets not start being ridiculous. Here is a list of the current members- find a couple that don't belong but there are a lot of heavy hitters.

http://www.rockhall.com/inductees/inductee-list

Knucklehead

from the web:

KISS
Few bands short of The Beatles inspired more kids to pick up the guitar than KISS. With their signature make-up, explosive stage show and anthems like “Rock and Roll All Night” and “Detroit Rock City,” they are the very personification of rock stars. Original members Ace Frehley, Peter Criss, Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons came together in New York in 1972. While their first two records didn’t generate many sales, they quickly gained a national following for their bombastic, pyro-filled stage show. Their 1975 live disc Alive! captured that energy and reached number nine on the charts, quickly making them one of the most popular bands of the 1970’s - scoring countless hit singles, sold-out tours and appearing everywhere from comic books to lunch boxes to their very own TV movie. They continue to perform sold out concerts around the world.