Rm7200 Mounts

JoeCane

What mounts can I use to mount 7200 near ceiling and angle them down?

THe omnimount in Club shopping says you need to put holes in the speaker to use them

Is that OK?

What is best placement for the front 7200's?

Thanks,
Joe

mantis

I'm not a fan of hanging wall mountable speakers from the ceiling.I do however like hanging Bose cubes from the ceiling as there bracket is designed to do so.
You speakers will work there best mounted on the wall.

If ceiling placement is your game,then I would look into inceiling speakers.Seemless and sound great when placed right.Polk makes em allday.

JoeCane

So, for best sound they have to be on the wall mounted with supplied bracket some back of 7200 is touching wall.

I really do want wall mount (just below ceiling). However, I want to be able to adjust direction.

Did I buy the wrong speakers?

mantis

joe,
I don't think you did,however I would like to know more about placement and why?

CRUNCH

i used the omni mount 10 lb. and i can tell you they are plenty adjustable from the wall. if you feel you need to turn them a very sharp angle if mounted from the wall get the extended arm omnimount 10 lb. its a very clean mount and look great. just fish the wires. i have the rm6700. the 7200 is not much bigger. by the way, its cheaper to get them here from polk then to buy them at ths shack. :cool:

JoeCane

Thanks for the help.

Thoes omni mounts seemed good. These B-Tech bt33 seemed like they would work too:
http://www.btech-usa.com/bt33.html

mantis: Here is a picture of the corner unit that my Plasma will be in. Center will be in there too. AS you can see the fire place (ugly I know) is in the way and the doors to the cabinet need to open so the only place for the speakers in above.

rs159

EEEK! Well, ummm... hmmm.... why not put the right speaker on the mantle? That looks to be the best place for it. I don't think you want your mains 3 feet above the center - VERY weird sounding. On the mantle, the right speaker would sound a tiny bit different but if it's placed closer to the edge I don't think you should notice and it would be a world better than near the ceiling.

brettw22

Originally posted by JoeCane
mantis: Here is a picture of the corner unit that my Plasma will be in.

You can't bury a Plasma tv in a corner unit. Talk about hiding the cool factor away......

rs159

WAF - 'nuff said

JoeCane

Yes you got it. My setup would have been different. This is the family room not the TVRoom... How wierd would sound be? That is why I wanted to at least angle the fronts downward.

So should I get Energy Encore speakers insted. I was told they sound just find at different height than center? Or should I just giveup and get BOSE

I the circuit city display has the to fronts high adn center low does not sound terrible.

Right now we have small boom box for music and 12yr old TV. So anything will be better. So hard to get something to work in THAT corner.

I was thinking it would be COOL to spring open the doors and WOW look at what you got in there!

Now what do I do.

rs159

Sorry if I came across as the sound ****! I'm just trying to help so you aren't dissapointed in the long run.

Would it be so bad?

(sorry, I have terrible image editing skills - it would look 100 times better in real life)

rs159

(Even though I don't -think- I'm a sound ****) My reasoning is that it's nice to have a linear soundstage where if something goes off screen or comes on it doesn't jump up in the air or duck to the ground. It's kind of destracting, and you can tell exactly where each speaker is instead of each one smoothly integrating with the others.

JoeCane

Ya I agree. How about a bit lower even. Like the speaker mounted under the mantle? The wife might just go for this. Then fronts will be just 12-18" above center.

So pointing the speakers down will not help sound stage at all?
Do the left and right side speakers need to be at same height as well?

BTW: the wall are getting painted (yellow came with house) and fire place brick might get paint or be replaced or covered with slate.

I dolike the corner cabinet deal. Sort of low profile look, but I think it would have been so much nicer to have a different corner setup.

At least she is not making me put all themoney in kids college fund or save for vacation to Disney World.

Thanks for your help.

mantis

after looking at your pic joe,
I think BOSE would work wonders for you.Believe it or not,in situations like that Bose really shines.There are plenty of benifits to owningthe cubes.I would get a lifestyle system.It has a built in DVD player,am fm radio,plays cd's,can support a 2nd zone,RF remote,new more powerfull sub/bass module,can be hung from the ceiling with there brackets,makes the WAF to the extreme.You can't go wring with Bose in your room.
Talk to me......
there is hope with what you own.Omnimounts can help.Just be carefull when drilling into your speakers.I would look inside and make sure your not going to hit the crossover or wires.
Putting one on the mandle and one on the wall is a good Idea.Home Depot make nice wire molding to hide the wire going to the mandle.Run the left inside the wall.
sanp some more pic's of your room,let me see the entire room.I can help you here allday.

JoeCane

mantis,

Thanks for helping me. I am really a newbie at the HT stuff.
So BOSE are not all bad? I would rather get Acoustimass® 10 or 15 and have my own receiver (Denon) and DVD player.

Is bose cube for center OK for HT? How would I mount the Bose for good sound (good enough)?



Or how about using stands for fronts? I ruled out stands before becuase space between fireplace and cabinet is tight. BUt how about stand to left on floor and stand to right on fireplace step?

If I use stands will 6200's still work. Can I put 7200's on stand?
Or what speakers should I get? Back to Energy Encore (my second choice after Polk). BTW around $1000 is my speaker budget for now. I actually have 7200's on order, but I have not gotten them yet and I can still cancel or just refuse delivery.

I know the whole corner placement and cattycorner room setup is not idea, I just did not think it was going to be sooo hard to find a reasonable setup. We arenot audiophiles, but I do not want to spend the money to have it sound bad.

Thanks again,
Joe

JoeCane

Here is one of my reasons for staying awya from bose:

http://www.intellexual.net/b.htm

My parents and two friends have them and love them, I just thought I could do better for the money.

rs159

What I don't get - if the wave radio is basically a mono clock radio with 2.5" transmision line sub, how can they get away with a 36" tube? And why do you use a 2.5" driver for a sub? I think the bose engineers actually know what they're doing but the execs don't let them make good products.

rs159

BTW - yes, left and right mains should be about the same height as the center and the exact same height as eachother. And aiming the speakers down doesn't help much with soundstaging, sounds will still come from the ceiling, but pointing them down will give you more direct sound that comes straight from the speaker and less reflected sound that bounces off the walls and furniture and such. In other words, it sounds better - but not great.

CRUNCH

why do you need to drill holes? my 6700 has a key hole (built in wall mount) that the omni mount screws into perfectly. i thought the 7200 was the same. have you tried the 6700? they have a very nice sound. i paired it with the 404. i think you would be hard pressed to hear the difference between the two. i listened to the 7200 the qlipsch quintets, and the bose 15. the winner was the 6700. good luck.:)

CRUNCH

btw.....CC has the 200 off on the sub going on now for polk.

mantis

JoeCane,

So BOSE are not all bad? I would rather get Acoustimass® 10 or 15 and have my own receiver (Denon) and DVD player.

Thats your option.I would go with the lifestyle package ,all in one.Bose does a really great job here despite what others say.I have Installed hundreds of Bose units with ALL happy customers.Hell I think there great for people just like you,not alot of experience,needs something easy to use and still get some great sound.Your room is the perfect size as well.

Is bose cube for center OK for HT? How would I mount the Bose for good sound (good enough)?

All the speakers in there packages are exactly the same.All cubes and sound great.Mounting them all on the ceiling would be fine.I do it alot with steller results.Got an attic above right??Easy Install.There brackets are fantastic.You can center the center channel over the cabnet slightly in front ,then left and right off to the sides in a straight line caddycorner like your cabnet.You can drill a1 inch hole in the top of the wall,put a plate behind the sub,use a cable plate,remove the barrel and drill out the hole to 1 inch.Allowing the wires to pass to the sub.All wires go to the sub.

Or how about using stands for fronts? I ruled out stands before becuase space between fireplace and cabinet is tight. BUt how about stand to left on floor and stand to right on fireplace step?

Bose pole stands are as small as they come.If they can fit????go for it.There great.I love em.The wire goes right inside to pole for a seemless Install.By looking at your room,I would go all ceiling mounted,rears as well.All off the ceiling.

If I use stands will 6200's still work. Can I put 7200's on stand?

Sure you can but with limited space you have I don't think it's the way to go.Using the Omnimount brackets would make for a cleaner install,I like and perfer to use the keyhole slotes,but not in a corner.The only speaker I know of that would work using the keyhole/flush mount is the Mirage Omnisats.These things are super fantastic.They spread 360* as they are Omnipolar.Awesome design with good to better sound quality.

BTW around $1000 is my speaker budget for now. I actually have 7200's on order, but I have not gotten them yet and I can still cancel or just refuse delivery.

Thats fine,get them,we can get them to work allday.Just take pic's when they get there and we and the rest of the forum will help with some Ideas.The rm series of Polk sound pretty good with a low cost.Effective entry level speaker package.

I know the whole corner placement and cattycorner room setup is not idea, I just did not think it was going to be sooo hard to find a reasonable setup. We arenot audiophiles, but I do not want to spend the money to have it sound bad.

I like this point here.Don't worry about the corner thing.We together will get the system rocking.I do the corner all the time on the job,many many people deside this is the room to go with(alot like yours) and deside that the corner is where the TV and theater gear is going to live.What you got to keep in mind is BOXING OFF the corner.Your seating will provide the locations for the rears,again think BOXING OFF the corner.It sounds great.Not Ideal but as you said,your not an audiophile.Only Nutcases like me are,then you never stop spending money on your system.Sometimes I wish I could go simple,a few grand and BAM I'm done,be completely sadisfied,but it's to late for me now.
Joe this is a fun and exciting time for you and your family.This system will provide many many hours of fun listening.I love to see the reactions of peoples faces the first time it gets fired up......priceless I'll tell yeah.

wallstreet

Now that's what I call a problem room! Call the editors at Sound and Vision, they have a recurring section for folks with problem rooms. You may have to call the professionals in for this one.

JoeCane

I got Mantis and ClubPolk I do not need any experts. Mantis might ust be an expert (not sure).

Hey this is actually kind of fun. Sort of a cool challange. Make this problem room sound OK (not perfect, just OK).

So what about using stands (adjustable height to get speakers at same level).

I do not really want to put a stand on fireplace, but if that will be MUCH MUCH better than my mounting speakers above cabinet then I will try it.

Here is a picture:

Thanks,
Joe

rs159

Could you open the tv stand and let us see the goodness?

rs159

The setup in the picture should work. Looks a little goofy in the pic but hey, stick figure people look goofy too. With some creative design you should be able to offset the effect of having 2 different sized stands.

JoeCane

How about back to wall mounts above angled down. wth center (also tilted down) above Plasma insted of below.

Sound stage would be basically close to same plane. Wouldn't it?
And if I watch TV like I usually do laying back with my head tilted back, my ears would be on a simlar plane as the angled sound from fronts and center.

I do not actually have the Plasma TV yet. I figured U should get audi setup first to make sure it would work. Gettig the Plasma mounted in there (with center in a god spot) is another project I am working on.

JoeCane

Oops forgot to attach picture for above post.

You guys Rock! Thanks for all the good input.

What do you think of this one:

VR3

Tie a string to the top of each speakers, and then hang them over your head. Then turn the stereo on max. Neway----

I would try to keep the mains even with or 1 foot below the center channel. IMO

rs159

Joe, if you did what is in your previous pic it'd prob'ly be better to put the right main on (or below) the mantle as described before. Then ev'rything'd be just right.

BTW, where do you plan on putting the sub?

rs159

Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Tie a string to the top of each speakers, and then hang them over your head. Then turn the stereo on max. Neway----

Then watch them swing back and forth whenever they hit some slamming midbass.

TonyPTX

Joe,

Not sure if this is what you want, but BestBuy has a nice product designed perfectly for the RM series. Check out this link...here If you like the product, you can pick them up cheaper at a local Lowes hardware store. Check out the telephone audio/video aisle. They can be had for $29 or 39. Can't remember. Check out the attached picture of my RM6700 speaks mounted in the corner.

PS. I no longer have the RM6700 speakers and now I have 4 of these mounts that I'd be willing to sell off real cheap. Contact me at TonyPTX@cox.NOSPAM.net if you're interested. If you want better pics, just let me know. I've got them sitting in a box in the closet. They are fully adjustable and would work as wall mounts or ceiling mounts.