How would Transparent Music Wave Reference spkr compare to MIT S3 Shotguns

thsmith
thsmith Posts: 6,082
edited July 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
Anyone know how these would stack up againest MIT S3 shotguns speaker cables.

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?cablspkr&1246937978
Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2009
    I have been a recent MIT convert and while I don;t have a lot of experience with many other brands of cables. I'd go MIT everytime. It's all in the network boxes baby......all in the boxes!

    I've found incremental improvements with other cables, but noticed the biggest and most pleasing difference when switching to MIT's. Doubt I'll ever purchase anything else unless I can be convinced (by listening myself) otherwise. :)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited July 2009
    Oh, this question is extremely easy. I don't know the answer but do know that if you email Joe Abrams (who has the ad) and ask him he will tell you exactly and truthfully. He is a seller whom you can rely on totally. I don't give this sort of recomendation lightly either.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited July 2009
    Fair point Madmax. I have dealt and talked with Joe just once and I agree he is someone to trust.

    Duh, I should have thought of that.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited July 2009
    I think Transparent used to manufacture MIT cables back in the companies inception. Since that time, there may have been a divergence in cable theory. I think I read a thread somewhere covering this topic. I will see if I can find it.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2009
    Hmmm,, old news,, the debate continues.

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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited July 2009
    I have a message into Joe but I think he is moving this weekend.

    A change of direction and maybe I will start a new thread if I don't get much under this one.

    Any thoughts on MIT CVT Terminator 2 Speaker Cables compared to the S3 Shotgun speaker cables? I have a chance to Demo a new pair and the price is OK but I thought I would see what some of you with Mits have an opinion first.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited July 2009
    trust snakeoil salesman ?

    Ok, which one of you is responsible for this tag? Don't be a coward, speak up......I dare you.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    I have a message into Joe but I think he is moving this weekend.

    A change of direction and maybe I will start a new thread if I don't get much under this one.

    Any thoughts on MIT CVT Terminator 2 Speaker Cables compared to the S3 Shotgun speaker cables? I have a chance to Demo a new pair and the price is OK but I thought I would see what some of you with Mits have an opinion first.

    Here's what I mentioned to Sal................go with the S3's

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1103274&postcount=73
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok, which one of you is responsible for this tag? Don't be a coward, speak up......I dare you.

    't'wasn't me
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited July 2009
    I'm not a fan of either cable.

    Dan
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2009
    Whomever wrote that tag is a **** and a total coward.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2009
    Some prefer MIT, some prefer Transparent.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited July 2009
    It was not me. I am a believer and damn proud to admit it.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited July 2009
    tracy, sending you a pm.
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    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2009
    Tagger:

    Those that don't know, don't know they don't know, and they are ****.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    Any thoughts on MIT CVT Terminator 2 Speaker Cables compared to the S3 Shotgun speaker cables? I have a chance to Demo a new pair and the price is OK but I thought I would see what some of you with Mits have an opinion first.

    I've had both in my rig. I prefer the S3's. Tighter lows, and the CVT's sounded a little on the bright side.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited July 2009
    Thanks all. I think I will demo a pair of new S3s and see how it goes.

    I get my second pair of S3 Shotguns ICs this afternoon.:cool:
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited July 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Whomever wrote that tag is a **** and a total coward.

    Whats a tag?
    Dan
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    Whats a tag?

    Right below this post towards the bottom of the page(above the quick reply box). Users can leave identifying tags to make the archives easier to search. 99% of the **** bags who leave tags are of a derogatory nature.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited July 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    I'm not a fan of either cable.

    Dan

    Dan, curious, you were big on Transparent, and then moving on to Kimber (I think). Price aside, what is this that you don't like about Transparent? Surely, there are aspect of Transparent that would be superior than KK, say the lower-end?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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