Good Lord, you'd think the president died....

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited June 2009
    gotta agree... those tags are total bs.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited June 2009
    Thats not a good answer or excuse for them. Maybe I missed it.
    Have the members been talking about it?
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    I just joined this site and the pictures put up are disagracefull! There is no need for that! All I know that in my lifetime(52 years) there was never a bigger,more popular,influential world wide album than "Thriller" . Yes that includes Elvis,Beatles ect..... It holds the Guiness record.In fact my son who now plays bass took up the instrument listening to the Jackson 5 and he and myself are not that big of fans.Have you guys watched tv and listen to all of the artists that were influenced! As for his charachter ,my dad would always tell me "If you have not walked in a man's shoes, judge him slowly" Who are we to judge!
    Michael,RIP !!!
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited June 2009
    wizzy wrote: »
    michael_jackson_farrah_fawcett.jpg

    You have a problem with this nice picture of Michael Jackson?
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote: »
    As for his charachter ,my dad would always tell me "If you have not walked in a man's shoes, judge him slowly" Who are we to judge!
    So unless we have slept with little boys we cant judge him?



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    NJPOLKER, It is not your picture I have the problem with as you may know. Judge him for his music,like it or not.I was not a huge fan of his music but he had the biggest selling album of all time whether you guys like it or not .
    Sadly,there are some now in the media that are making it a racial thing.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2009
    So if your next door neighbor had little boys sleep over, you wouldn't have a problem with it?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    Yes in fact one of my sons did have a sleepover at my neighbors. This was going back about 6 years. I am good friends with them and trust them. Am I a bad parent?
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    The molesting children thing.....let it go. He was never convicted,he settled out of court. The second one was bogus. If there is a God he will be judged !!!!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote: »
    Yes in fact one of my sons did have a sleepover at my neighbors. This was going back about 6 years. I am good friends with them and trust them. Am I a bad parent?
    Is the neighbor a single middle-aged man that talks like a five year old?

    If the answer to the above question is yes, then child protective services should knock on your door and start asking questions.
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    He is a middle aged man. He also haves a son that is the age of my son. He does not sound like a 5 year old but he does talk funny. Says phrases like " Da Bears " and over der" when pointing to something.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited June 2009
    wasn't John Gacy a Bears fan?:eek::p... I would not allow it these days but that's just me.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote: »
    He is a middle aged man. He also haves a son that is the age of my son. He does not sound like a 5 year old but he does talk funny. Says phrases like " Da Bears " and over der" when pointing to something.
    There is a difference it sounds like to me that your son went to have a sleepover with your neighbors son not your middle aged single neighbor. :rolleyes:



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    Maybe he was. If I was a Bears fan I would be a little crazy also. Go Green and Gold. The pack is back baby !!!!!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited June 2009
    Vikings!!!!
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    Snow, you are correct.Our son's were friends.... that is my point! You were not given all of the information just like we were not given about the Jackson stuff.

    Regards,
    DEKUDA
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    snow wrote: »
    so unless we have slept with little boys we cant judge him?



    Regards snow

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote: »
    Snow, you are correct.Our son's were friends.... that is my point! You were not given all of the information just like we were not given about the Jackson stuff.

    Regards,
    DEKUDA
    We DO HAVE all the information... MJ has PUBLICLY stated every time he was asked that he LOVED sharing his bed with little boys:eek:

    that is wrong on many different levels, but the image of a grown man doing this with children that are not his own is disturbing to most rational people. He said"It's not like that... it's innocent!" It may have been, and I pray that it was, but that does not in any way change the fact that it was both weird and just wrong.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote:
    The molesting children thing.....let it go. He was never convicted,he settled out of court.

    The second one was bogus.

    Seems the same thing happened to OJ. He was never convicted of murder and we all know he was innocent. Of course there was that civil trial where he was deemed to be at fault...and all of his assets tied up. Just the sort of thing one might settle out of court to avoid.

    OJ said that whole kidnapping thing was bogus...only that time he was caught with his pants down...so to speak.

    The guy (MJ) was talented...but he was a freak show...and brought on any questions about his "character" on himself by the way he lived his life. Once you put youself out there as a public figure...all's fair...in life AND death.

    I respected his talent.

    I had NO respect for the individual when he was alive...I haven't changed my view because he is dead.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote: »
    Snow, you are correct.Our son's were friends.... that is my point! You were not given all of the information just like we were not given about the Jackson stuff.

    Regards,
    DEKUDA
    What I do know is that MJ himself has admmitted to sleeping with little boys a practice he decribed as sweet, now did he molest these boys while they were sleeping with him? not sure, but I do know that if you put two playboy models in my bed the likelyhood is very high that neither one of them would make it through the night without being molested in every way I could dream up :D




    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited June 2009
    I agree Snow. It was wrong . He put himself in that position and he should not have. But it seems that whenever someone dies the most that is mentioned is the bad stuff. Are we that negative? Who would settle out of court if they could have proved it,found him guilty and then sue him.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited June 2009
    nobody is really being negative... more like being realistic. I suppose when OJ dies we should all remember him as one of the greatest running backs in history... God I wish I could do that, but he was also an unconvicted murder, and an armed robber. Just like I will only remember Joe Namath and those damn panty hose!:eek:
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote: »
    I agree Snow. It was wrong . He put himself in that position and he should not have. But it seems that whenever someone dies the most that is mentioned is the bad stuff. Are we that negative? Who would settle out of court if they could have proved it,found him guilty and then sue him.
    There are times that no matter what you have accomplished in life in a positive way you can do something so negative that it defines who you are and overshadows all else, I believe this is the case here. My thought's are the same as Shack's I feel no differently now than I did before.

    As far as to why anyone would settle out of court it's called simple economics fight someone for years that has a virtually bottomless pocketbook or settle out of court get help for your child now and move on with your life.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited June 2009
    I'm frankly surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.. what gives? some threads get locked for a lot less than what's going on here right now.

    maybe the web dude is on vacation or something.

    hey people i'm only going to say this one time.

    get over the whole MJ molested little boys thing you are all so fascinated over and move on. It's similar to the whole abortion argument... no one ever wins the debate.

    Once again.. lock this thread, PLEASE!!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    dekuda wrote: »
    I just joined this site and the pictures put up are disagracefull! There is no need for that! All I know that in my lifetime(52 years) there was never a bigger,more popular,influential world wide album than "Thriller" . Yes that includes Elvis,Beatles ect..... It holds the Guiness record.In fact my son who now plays bass took up the instrument listening to the Jackson 5 and he and myself are not that big of fans.Have you guys watched tv and listen to all of the artists that were influenced! As for his charachter ,my dad would always tell me "If you have not walked in a man's shoes, judge him slowly" Who are we to judge!
    Michael,RIP !!!

    We're about the same age so you're a member of 'my' generation...just a bit younger and while I understand your reference to your son. Do you have ANY idea of just how many people picked up a guitar in OUR TIME (60s and 70s because of the groups you slight above...Album sales? So should we judge ALL ART by how much it SELLS...that's a rather uninformed view of what was path breaking and revolutionary. It seems to me that lots of artists often die in obscurity before they're even discovered.) The Beatles...name somebody that wasn't influenced by them--really, how can you be 52 and...! I have no stake in dissing M.J. over anything. But his music...it's just not there! Sorry.

    And I agree, all the stuff flying around in this thread...is...well....

    I stand by my opinion (POP is NOT where it's at...never been).

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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    It's a common misconception that Michael Jackson was the King of Pop. Ya see...I'm the true King of Pop.

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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    If that's true Curt, I may have to retract my position on 'POP'?

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  • BigMac
    BigMac Posts: 849
    edited June 2009
    All I can say is when I first joined this forum (which was not to long ago) it was a wealth of knowledge. Now all it is, is a wealth of BS. More than half of the members who have a ton of audio info/experience rarely post anymore because of this type of crap. I for one miss the advanced technical info. this forum 'had' to offer. Just as I felt I was learning the ins and outs of this very intricate hobby the members that had the most to offer now just lay by the sideline watching the chaos unfold. I do realize this is the 'anything goes' section of CP but for the love of audio, please, please, please, grow up. Even the other sections are the same ol, same ol, nothing new.......Sorry for the rant as I have been drinking but it's the truth. Grow up you F'ING MORONS!!!!

    Imo, I believe the admins/mods of the CP forums need to remember that in the posting rules that there is a part that states........9) Forum rules & guidelines are not up for debate. This is not a democracy, but rather a private forum owned by Polk Audio. Anyone openly debating the rules we have set in place will be removed. .

    I am not debating the policies in any way, but the enforcement that was once here is long gone!!!!!! Quality and attention to detail is what set Polk apart from its competitors. Lately here on the forums it's a free for all and people get away with murder. Please restore dignity to this forum that was once here and that attracted and made this one of, if not the best audio forum on the internet. Rant over.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2009
    Michael would tell all you guys to "beat it"... "He he"
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