Do larger speakers sound better ?

Dan2036

I have tsi100's am currently using for my front speakers till i can afford to to get monitor 60 but what im wondering is will they actually sound better then the tsi100's i have or just more powerful ? I listen to alot of music and some movies too with these so sound quality is important to me. Might be a stupid question but it's been buggin me for awhile

Toolfan66

I am going to jump in and say yes. But somethings might hinder the sound quality with larger speakers.

1- The size of your room your putting them in.
2- How you are powering them.
3- and i just learned this. Room Treatments.

Some others might chime in with other ideas, But these are a few that i have learned in the last few months.


Larry.

Dan2036

Pretty modestly powered i believe 50 watts per channel, and medium to small sized room if that helps at all

Knucklehead

for what its worth my R50's sound a lot better than anything Ive had before regardless of size.:D

dmata10

It just depends on the size of the room and what kind of furniture is in the room.

beardog03

it`s not the size of your speaker....

...it`s how ya use it


and work the walls (with treatments)












get yer mind outta the gutter




or not !

Face

Larger speakers are more generally more dynamic.

dougy

Dan2036 wrote: »

I have tsi100's am currently using for my front speakers till i can afford to to get monitor 60 but what im wondering is will they actually sound better then the tsi100's i have or just more powerful ? I listen to alot of music and some movies too with these so sound quality is important to me. Might be a stupid question but it's been buggin me for awhile

First, you have to define what "better" means to you. Bigger speakers tend to sound fuller and more dynamic, but small speakers, imo, usually image better; they better reproduce three-dimensional images outside the confines of the speaker enclosure. Images tend to float free of the speakers. But you can, to an extent, have the best of both worlds if you really try! Some bigger speakers do image well, and some small speakers can sound very dynamic and full when mated with good subs and set up properly.

mhardy6647

An unanswereable question, I'm afraid.

skipf

large speakers+high wattage amps+big room=sound better as a general rule. Of course a lot depends on the type of each componant in the equasion.

thsmith

Since I have SDA 1Cs I will say yes but there are a lot of factors as stated above.

Matt34

Large tower speakers tend to have more coloration from the large cabinets not being properly brace. Most manufacturers don't do this right do to weight and cost. That being said I'll take a floorstander over a bookshelf 9/10 times.

Dan2036

Ok well basically what im asking is for a medium sized room for a person that cares about music and a little bit of movies which speaker would be the better fit with the better sound, Tsi100 or the Monitor 60 ?

mantis

Larger speakers don't mean better sound or more dynamic range. Actually most smaller speakers sound more dynamic and cleaner then larger speakers. I will explain.

In most lines , they go from a small bookshelf speaker to a large floor standing speaker. Most of the time the larger speaker sounds better and fuller as some said above, but this is not always the case and the room you plan on using them in really dictates what speakers you should use. Forget about what you want and think of the room. The room is the single most important thing to picking any part of the system. Mess this up and the system does not function correctly.

Small speakers when crossed over correctly sound better then a lot of floor speakers as most of the time people try to send a full range signal to them that they have no business playing. You lose Frequencies and this is a huge problem when trying to calibrate. I will hardly never set a pair of speakers in "large" due to the facts hardly no speaker can actually play full range. Did you know that taking away low end actually makes most speakers sound better??? Using the sub to run the bottom end and blending correctly is key. Using multi subs work better then buying larger speakers.

Dan

Ricardo

When talking about boxes I'll take a 2 way monitor over a floorstander every time. It all depends on what you like. Bigger speakers will have more punch, but for my ears monitors present a more coherent sound.

mantis

Keiko wrote: »

I've only owned bookshelves. I recall reading once that monitors will image better than large floorstanders, but I'm not sure if that's true or not. I'm very happy with what I have though.

thats not true at all. But one could thing they have better detail due to not playing all the audio range.

Dan

Toolfan66

mantis wrote: »

thats not true at all. But one could thing they have better detail due to not playing all the audio range.

Dan

Could this be why some of my poorly SQ CD's sound better on my RT55i's then on the A9's or SDA's?

Larry.

reeltrouble1

Anybody who tells you little box speakers sound better than full range speakers is just trying to impress you with some unfounded snob look at me I am so wise audio speak/talk.

RT1

pearsall001

Monitors paired with dual subs will kick the living daylights out of a pair of floorstanders everyday of the week...and twice on Sunday's.

Monitors/subs rule baby!!!!

treitz3

mantis wrote: »

.......better detail due to not playing all the audio range.

If you don't have the full audio range, why bother? You are missing half the music. Most specifically, the part that completes the sound stage that envelops you and puts you IN the venue.

At least that's my stance and I will not waiver. IMO, you can not omit frequencies and expect to have accurate reproduction of the music. You are only leaving out the frequencies that are among those that in my experience, the hardest to properly reproduce and integrate into the system. A properly done system IMO will have all of the frequencies accurately reproduced and equal [at all volume settings]. Getting a system that will do that? Well, that can be a challenge but that's half the fun isn't it?

shawn474

Having gone from floorstanders to a bookshelf set-up, I can tell you that there is a difference. I got rid of my florrstanding set-up because the wife was afraid of the kids pulling them over and hurting themselves. I can honestly say sice then I have gone through 4 different bookshelf set-ups. There seems to be a very wide assortment of bookshelf set-ups and I think having that type of set-up causes you to fine tune moreso to get the most out of your system. Admittedly, I have a pretty small room so this works for me. For a larger, more open room, bookshelves may never be the answer.

Don't get me wrong, the set-up I have now sounds great to me and leaves me extremely satisfied, but the bass response, especially the action scenes, seemed to have had more "ooomph" when I had the floorstanders. I can't say that the previous set-uop sounded better; just different. I am thinking about the possibility of running dual subs to see how that would work.

Shawn

Ricardo

treitz3 wrote: »

You are missing half the music.

A pair of speakers that give you 40 Hz and up will cover 99% of all instruments and vocals. A well blended sub can provide that missing 1% perfectly well. And I agree, that 1% does make a difference in the overall presentation. (Ok, maybe 5 %).

Face

Ricardo, if your listening area was still your HT room, would you still prefer monitors?

reeltrouble1

yes, but although Phil likes bookshelf's he is adding some humor to the fray. I find some of the so-called experts comments rather humorus although they are serious, not really misguided, just believing they are the one.

We have a thread about the topic every so often. A good floorstander is predictable, bookshelves can hold more suprise, in my book a good floorstander will beat a good bookshelf everytime.

So I am biased, Big Speakers, Big Power, Go Large or Go Home. If your room is too small find another room.

RT1

treitz3

What is this? No comment about tubes? :eek:

Are you feeling ok?

reeltrouble1

Ricardo wrote: »

A pair of speakers that give you 40 Hz and up will cover 99% of all instruments and vocals.

I can assure you that is not true. What is true is that music lives in the mids and your bookshelf can do that.

RT1

reeltrouble1

tom,

Tubes Rule, I had Patrick put it my S/N title.

RT1

bsoko2

Go big, SDA SRS 2.3's, RTA 12's, Monitor 10's, dual HSU 3.3's with dual HSU MBM-12's and that will fill any room especially my 6000 cu ft one.

Bill

Ricardo

Face wrote: »

Ricardo, if your listening area was still your HT room, would you still prefer monitors?

Good question. I think I would, based on what I have experienced. But, if you see my first post, I started saying "when talking about box speakers". Now that I moved to planars, I say you need the right radiating surface for your room.

skipf

pearsall001 wrote: »

Monitors paired with dual subs will kick the living daylights out of a pair of floorstanders everyday of the week...and twice on Sunday's.

Monitors/subs rule baby!!!!

I'll put my floorstanders up against your monitor / sub combo anytime, and place a little wager on it too;)

reeltrouble1

skip,

you have to remember he is hard of hearing in one ear and cant hear out of the other.......;) he sits off axis in a special spot so he can boost the one frequency that still comes through and tickles his ear bone.

RT1--and just so everyone knows I am OK, Tubes Rule.........