New is not always good
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OK..I give up...you people don't have a clue....
Factory spec's......what are you talking about a 4 year old unit or some thing...
you people are so out of hand...and basically have no clue.
I talked to the Boss..as a tech person.....he told me what the deal was.
If you don't buy it..or think i don't know what I'm doing...fine ..have a nice day.
Lets try and get a grip here..the Jolidia....on some "songs"..skips on "some CD"S........not all the time..
The BOSS man said..the Sony has a different disk setup..so if it works....
good for the Sony.
If you don't like it...fine..this is what the "BOSS" said to me.... -
What in hell are you talking about Treitz3?????
This is a brand new unit..if it was not...if this thing was 3 years old or something..i would not be pissed off....
Ok. So, send it back for warranty repair. If you can't see anything bad on
cd surface, get it reapaired. A flakey transport is a flakey transport.
No adjustments means changing the transport out. Then change out the
tubes for something decent when it comes back. And until today, we didn't
know if it was used or new. That was the point of the latest posts.
IF there is any doubt about the cd's, download EAC(exact audio copy)
and try copying them to your hard drive. If the program slows down the
read to a crawl or reports errors, the disc is less than 100%. The discs that gave
Pioneer Elite CDP's fits also bombed out of EAC. Read fine on my regular
CDP's. If your a pc tech, then apply your troubleshooting knowledge to
the problem. Do the visual, do the functional, and if the disc passes, then
the trasport is at fault. Done deal."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
Bob, you have to play CD's that aren't scratched, warped or otherwise FUBAR. The fact that you mentioned that you play a new CD and the Jolida doesn't play it? I'm not buying it and I'm quite sure many others are not as well. Not for one second.
That said, are you trying to play a new CD that won't play as you mentioned? Have you confirmed that it's not a different format that's not compatible with the CDP? In other words, are you trying to play an HDCD or a DVD in it?
Please take the time to answer the questions asked. You have to help us to help you if you want to figure out what's going on.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
OK..I give up...you people don't have a clue....
Factory spec's......what are you talking about a 4 year old unit or some thing...
you people are so out of hand...and basically have no clue.
I talked to the Boss..as a tech person.....he told me what the deal was.
If you don't buy it..or think i don't know what I'm doing...fine ..have a nice day.
Lets try and get a grip here..the Jolidia....on some "songs"..skips on "some CD"S........not all the time..
The BOSS man said..the Sony has a different disk setup..so if it works....
good for the Sony.
If you don't like it...fine..this is what the "BOSS" said to me....
Dude you can't tell me that the thing is under warranty and they won't take it in for a look if you are disatified with its performance. If you are saying this than something is missing here. -
Exactly.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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guys, bobt is just having fun, he gets his kicks outside of route 66.
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OK..I give up...you people don't have a clue....
Factory spec's......what are you talking about a 4 year old unit or some thing...
you people are so out of hand...and basically have no clue.
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Like I said, up until now we didn't know if it was new or used.
If an end pc user took that long to get to this point, you would pack
up you stuff and move on. We have no clue because we are guessing.
IF you want technical help, give a technical description. So far,
It's like having a tech discussion with an MBA. I've had two of those
today, and I am about jab a pencil in my ear.:eek:"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
I don't know RT1, maybe he was trying to play different formats or FUBAR'd CD's and didn't realize it. Not everybody is on the same level in their journey. We'll see.
Time will tell.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
If he explained his problem to the BOSS in a similar manner to what has been posted here:
Then I'm sure the BOSS has no clue as to what the hell he was talking about...and told him to just enjoy his Sony.
I second that advice."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
sucks2beme wrote: »So far,
It's like having a tech discussion with an MBA. I've had two of those
today, and I am about jab a pencil in my ear.:eek:
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I know if I had the same or a similar problem with any product I purchased I'd send it back or take it back asking for a replacement. It does happen unfortunately that manufactures miss something along the way.
Bob, Just send it back to them and ask for a replacement. If the problem persists its gotta be the disc's. Simple as that! Make no mistake its a great unit and not every great unit is for each and everyone of our applications. Thats why manufactures have a return policy.
I hope I've been a help.
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Basiscally you people don't get anything....once i told him i was a computer tech...he said there was no reason to send it back. this is a brand new unit.
I talked to him as a tech ( far beyond your crap...like scope levels), There are no adjustments ...he told me there is really nothing i can do, it only skips on some songs on certain CD's.
Sure, i could send it back..if i want..but whats the point. He said up front, if the songs don't play right, now, do not expect them to play right with something else.
The CD player is, what it is........... He told me to my face this CD was not like the Sony XA3ES....it used at different Sensor ......CD player
If you want to tell me something else..thats fine..**** all you want.
If you think your so **** smart...then you had better have fixed major disk drives for for major corperations..and tell me how it was done! -
Of course, I see. You are beyond our level.
RT1, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it seems he is nothing but a troll spewing complete BS out of whatever **** he can provide.
Sad, very sad.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I'm sorry, I can not help myself here........WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!Basiscally you people don't get anything....once i told him i was a computer tech...he said there was no reason to send it back. this is a brand new unit.
Pot, meet the kettle black. I'm quite sure that you will have a long, enduring, intimate relationship on the dull side of audio...
Happy listening.:)~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Basiscally you people don't get anything....once i told him i was a computer tech...he said there was no reason to send it back. this is a brand new unit.
I'm a computer technician. I don't fix electronics, it's not part of the job.
Reverse the charges on your credit card and be done with it. Or send it to the manufacturer for warranty repair. That is if you really even bought the player, which I doubt. -
well...yeah ..I'm way beyond your level.....
I've have had over 15 years in computer repair...15years in building major computer rooms desiging and buliding them..with cable....so some how i think.....yeah...i have a little more smarts then you do...
You people don't like it..it's your problem ..not mine......... -
Basiscally you people don't get anything....once i told him i was a computer tech...he said there was no reason to send it back. this is a brand new unit.
I talked to him as a tech ( far beyond your crap...like scope levels), There are no adjustments ...he told me there is really nothing i can do, it only skips on some songs on certain CD's.
Sure, i could send it back..if i want..but whats the point. He said up front, if the songs don't play right, now, do not expect them to play right with something else.
The CD player is, what it is........... He told me to my face this CD was not like the Sony XA3ES....it used at different Sensor ......CD player
If you want to tell me something else..thats fine..**** all you want.
If you think your so **** smart...then you had better have fixed major disk drives for for major corperations..and tell me how it was done!
???????????? Test the disks like I stated in a pc with EAC.
EAC will show you ANY read problems with the CD. If there aren't problems
with the Cds, the the transport is bad. End of story. If you know the CDs are
scuffed, scratched or bad, then the statement makes sense. If there's not
why screw around? $1000 is a lot to pay for a CDP. Why settle for one
that doesn't make you happy? I'm NOT doing a personal attack here. Just
trying to get a handle on where you're going with this."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
We don't care what you think. What we care about is you coming on this board and telling lies. That's pretty apparent at this point.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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I've have had over 15 years in computer repair...15years in building major computer rooms desiging and buliding them..with cable....so some how i think.....yeah...i have a little more smarts then you do...
So you're a beginner then. That's OK.
So please explain to me how you repair electronics when doing computer repair? I would love to know how you reomove and replace components on a 6 or 8 layer PCB, you know, your average motherboard. You are full of it.
And if you are so advanced, fixing a simple CD player should be a piece of cake. -
Bob, I'm sorry, but I just can't see a company ruling out the possibility of there being a hardware error simply because someone on the other end of the phone says they are a computer tech and they don't see anything wrong.
I've been in the computer business longer than you, and I certainly wouldn't have that kind of a conversation with a customer. It gets to a certain point, and then it's "send it to us and we'll take a look and tell you what's wrong".
If it doesn't read some CD's, then it's broken -- no new player should have trouble reading a CD that's in good condition (if your CD's are not in good condition then, well, it's possible this could happen -- different CD players have various levels of tolerance when reading damaged discs).
So, send it back and get it replaced. I suppose there is a slim chance that the issue could be inherent to all Jolida units, but I highly doubt it. Only one way to know for sure...Speakers: Polk LSi15
Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
Amp: Pass Labs X-150
CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
Cartridge:Denon DL-160
Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH -
William, spot on.So you're a beginner then. That's OK.
So please explain to me how you repair electronics when doing computer repair? I would love to know how you reomove and replace components on a 6 or 8 layer PCB, you know, your average motherboard. You are full of it.
And if you are so advanced, fixing a simple CD player should be a piece of cake.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Another **** head. I wonder how some people make it day to day. Its funny how people have tried to help him out and he shoes no appreciation. If he really believes the unit is not for him or can't be corrected he should kill this thread.
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well...yeah ..I'm way beyond your level.....
I've have had over 15 years in computer repair...15years in building major computer rooms desiging and buliding them..with cable....so some how i think.....yeah...i have a little more smarts then you do...
You people don't like it..it's your problem ..not mine.........
That's some funny stuff. :eek: -
well...yeah ..I'm way beyond your level.....
I've have had over 15 years in computer repair...15years in building major computer rooms desiging and buliding them..with cable....so some how i think.....yeah...i have a little more smarts then you do...
You people don't like it..it's your problem ..not mine.........
You are a hopeless case if you think those credentials are bragging rights. I was doing the above from 75 to 86 and then moved onto management and then upper management in hospital information systems. I hired and fired guys like you at the drop of a hat especially guys with attitudes like yours. You are nothing more than a PC tech with a little network knoweldge. No offence towards PC techs.
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Send it back, have it fixed, sell it...shut up about it.
The first three are entirely optional."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
Funny, My Jolida plays CD's my Sony and Yamaha CD players would not play due to scratches. I cannot remember it ever skipping.I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
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Just a PS to that....
Just because some of you people think Im not "coherent."........
Sorry, I've been a computer tech for 20 years.....and when the owner of the company tells me there is no adjustments...I don't need to hook up a scope to do anything...well ****..I have to believe the guy.
You don't like what i say..sorry....unless you can disprove it..take a walk!!!!!!!
20 years, eh?bobt wrote:well...yeah ..I'm way beyond your level.....
I've have had over 15 years in computer repair...15years in building major computer rooms desiging and buliding them..with cable....so some how i think.....yeah...i have a little more smarts then you do...
You people don't like it..it's your problem ..not mine.........
When your telling lies, you need to be able to remember what the details are.
Anyway, your comment that there are no adjustments in a CD player would be wrong. The laser is always adjustable.
BTW, judging from the content of your posts, your sentence structure and overall attitude, you're way beyond incoherent.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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kind of felt the same way when I read that comment.reeltrouble1 wrote: »OK. Then enjoy your Sony.
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Please return and don't put comments on the site trying to blame posters who recommend it... that is pretty low! How about demo when you are seeking some that has good review?Well yes.....i thought this CD player was going to be real good.
Acording to all the people on this website....
But it is not.......if it can't play just CD's....that the Sony can..geeee..I guess
It's not really as good....
Gee..must be something wrong with the CD player.....when it skip's crap all over the place...gee i think there is something wrong. Plus just not 1 cd..even new CDs...so this has to be returned...if anything
People are giving you good advice, **** happens, maybe this one shouldn't have hit the consumer shelves but nothing is perfect in life. It happens once in a while that a good product may be defective, return and get over it.hearingimpared wrote: »There is something obviously wrong with the player. Why don't you exchange it instead of ranting at the club members here who recommend highly this piece of gear.
Again, a testimony of the quality of this brand, no luck you got the bad unit, simply return it!disneyjoe7 wrote: »I agree there's something wrong with player, as it should rock your world.
Again, send for repair or replacement or even refund.sucks2beme wrote: »Two weeks and we still don't know
A: was this a new out of the box player or new to BOBT
B: IF it was skipping on multiple discs why he didn't immediately contact the seller
If new, waiting to burn in wouldn't make it read discs any better. Sound
wise, well it's known to sound good, but even better with a tube change.
If it took a drop kick injury during shipping, why would any CP member's
reviews of the JD100 be suspect? Shipping damage is shipping damage.
Go deal with the retailer, or warranty service. I did some Googling,
and I don't see any patterns of drive failures reported. And I doubt
you have any of the 25 year old cd's that I have that had trouble
with some CDPs. So send it in for repair already. Damn!
Bobt, I remember backing you up on the cable thing and later on you felt so bad about it and somehow apologised but now this is basically the same pattern... You complain about a bad experience, people give you good advice (the thread started pretty friendly and positive advices are given) but you are full of buts and arguments instead of listening to their advices. Is the purpose solely about ranting?Yes, you people don't like my thoughts about cables..so be it.
I talked to Mike Allen directly about the Jolidia. i told him what was wrong.
The fact that the Jolidia skips on some songs, where the Sony XA3ES dose not. He told to me, responce was basically..good for the Sony. The Jolidia uses a different pick up system, then the Sony. There are NO adjustments...nothing he can do..if it skips on some songs try cleaning the CD. No reason to send it back, no adjustments can be made. According to him...as he should Know ..he owns the company....there are NO adjustments to the deck..no disk adjustments..nothing!!!
SO...you can take it for what it's worth.......
OK, what is the purpose of the thread? Need help? Then start listening to the advices! What is this about challenging people that are willing to spend their precious time to help you? People tell you this unit is viable, you may have a bad unit, stop ranting and return it!Just a PS to that....
Just because some of you people think Im not "coherent."........
Sorry, I've been a computer tech for 20 years.....and when the owner of the company tells me there is no adjustments...I don't need to hook up a scope to do anything...well ****..I have to believe the guy.
You don't like what i say..sorry....unless you can disprove it..take a walk!!!!!!!
Is the purpose of this thread about telling each and every Polkie you are pissed off or to blame them for you buying this unit?What in hell are you talking about Treitz3?????
This is a brand new unit..if it was not...if this thing was 3 years old or something..i would not be pissed off....
Too easy, return under warrantee!If it's brand new then it should be under warranty. Send it in instead of complaining on this board. It's really that simple.
I guess the BOSS is clear, if you don't like it, fine you can return it and go back to Sony... right?OK..I give up...you people don't have a clue....
Factory spec's......what are you talking about a 4 year old unit or some thing...
you people are so out of hand...and basically have no clue.
I talked to the Boss..as a tech person.....he told me what the deal was.
If you don't buy it..or think i don't know what I'm doing...fine ..have a nice day.
Lets try and get a grip here..the Jolidia....on some "songs"..skips on "some CD"S........not all the time..
The BOSS man said..the Sony has a different disk setup..so if it works....
good for the Sony.
If you don't like it...fine..this is what the "BOSS" said to me....
I think treitz3 is being understanding and helpfull here, why won't you provide him some answers in order for him to help you?Bob, you have to play CD's that aren't scratched, warped or otherwise FUBAR. The fact that you mentioned that you play a new CD and the Jolida doesn't play it? I'm not buying it and I'm quite sure many others are not as well. Not for one second.
That said, are you trying to play a new CD that won't play as you mentioned? Have you confirmed that it's not a different format that's not compatible with the CDP? In other words, are you trying to play an HDCD or a DVD in it?
Please take the time to answer the questions asked. You have to help us to help you if you want to figure out what's going on.
The BOSS seemed to be quite clear with him, return if you don't like. Seems like Bobt would like him to reconsider the manufacturing for him. Simply return the unit if you don't like it!hearingimpared wrote: »Dude you can't tell me that the thing is under warranty and they won't take it in for a look if you are disatified with its performance. If you are saying this than something is missing here.
Personally, I wouldn't call the BOSS to **** and complain about his product, I would deal with my seller!Basiscally you people don't get anything....once i told him i was a computer tech...he said there was no reason to send it back. this is a brand new unit.
I talked to him as a tech ( far beyond your crap...like scope levels), There are no adjustments ...he told me there is really nothing i can do, it only skips on some songs on certain CD's.
Sure, i could send it back..if i want..but whats the point. He said up front, if the songs don't play right, now, do not expect them to play right with something else.
The CD player is, what it is........... He told me to my face this CD was not like the Sony XA3ES....it used at different Sensor ......CD player
If you want to tell me something else..thats fine..**** all you want.
If you think your so **** smart...then you had better have fixed major disk drives for for major corperations..and tell me how it was done!well...yeah ..I'm way beyond your level.....
I've have had over 15 years in computer repair...15years in building major computer rooms desiging and buliding them..with cable....so some how i think.....yeah...i have a little more smarts then you do...
You people don't like it..it's your problem ..not mine.........
Bobt, are you a punching bag? Re-read your self... Go back to the cable discussion, you challenge people, you tell them that they are not at your level, what is the sense of this discussion? You simply want them to agree with your wining? You address people with a problem but deny their input, you know better, provide them with the solution if the solution is yours, don't challenge them or keep them in the hope they can help you! Stop being a victim and a punch bag on this site! I tought you have learned your lesson after the cable thread??Another **** head. I wonder how some people make it day to day. Its funny how people have tried to help him out and he shoes no appreciation. If he really believes the unit is not for him or can't be corrected he should kill this thread.
Come on this site with your issues, discuss the options at hands, report the end results and thank the people for their help... Don't recreate a 20K thread views with a 2K war replies! Be positve and proactive, that is what sites like this are all about!
To all the posters and lurkers, sorry for the long post, I have read and respond to this thread while drinking so it just make my head shaking a little more obvious!
Cheers
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