Forum Bullying....so this is an AUDIO Forum?

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    jkacura39 wrote: »
    but i can guarantee you that most of their knowledge didnt come from them studing books, but yet just reading someone elses posts about different things. kinda like cheating on an exam and getting an A. yea it looks like you were smart but in the end your just using someone elses brain.

    No, you can't guarantee that and that is where the poor attitude lies. This is a forum and you wouldn't know these people from spit. Many of them have very diverse backgrounds, quite a few are electrical techs or engineers. Many, in fact, most of them have gained their experience from doing and THEN talking about it.

    Go look at the age distribution. I can promise you that the veterans are in the upper age ranges and they were around long before the Intarweb. Their experience comes from years of tinkering away in garages, basements and audio rooms, just fooling around with gear. Some of them are very educated. Some aren't but all the experience and opinions are valid and valued even if they aren't in agreement. Some of the n00bs are educated and some aren't too. (Before anyone flips out, I mean educated as in college degrees and higher learning or a skilled trade that required trade school) But you wouldn't know it because for one thing they don't talk about it and for another an attitude like the one you just expressed is not going to make them willing to share any info with you at all.

    Don't make assumptions about people you don't know. It's been said before, this is a unique place. Many people have stood face to face with each other here. Many have shared a beer or a shot and thrown down in the name of friendship. To most here these aren't names on a forum. They are Lou and George and Dave and Russ and the other Russ and the other other Russ and the OTHER other other Russ and Joe who isn't really Joe and Ted and Mark and Sean...and so on. Many have known each other for years and a few we knew personally even passed away like Greg and Shane and the charming Tiffany. They are sorely missed and often remembered for the people they were, not the names on the forum. These are friends, family, brothers and sisters. N00bs are not going to be readily accepted without a bit of trepidation because of that.

    Making posts like this is a good way to prolong the acceptance. This is unique. We have Ivy League educated professors mingling with Oil Rig Roughnecks. We have staunch environmentalists mingling with hardcore racers. We have scientists and researchers mingling with accountants and financial analysts. We have gun nuts mingling with anti-gun nuts. We have Democrats mingling with Republicans! you name, we got it here. My God! What the hell is going on here?

    The point is, anyone can blend in. Lose the 'tude and you will too.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited April 2009
    thanks for reaffirming my initial post!
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    jkacura39 wrote: »
    Thats one of the a-holes i was talking about

    Oh, OK, I see how it is.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited April 2009
    There are many great people on the forum that love audio and love helping people with audio.

    Knuklehead did you write the post on forum bullying? If you did it was very well written and bullying sometimes appilies to this forum and me. I have been wrong to lash out at members also, but I hope that I have learned from these mistakes. I just hate this forum when the name calling starts. And I undertsand there is a difference between good humor and name calling.

    There clearly are subjects, I will not mention them here, that will start the bullying on this forum. I wish it wasn't true and it need not happen because other forums simply don't allow bullying. There are also subjects not to be discussed. The rules are simple really.

    I think it's the role of the moderates of this forum to decide what is tolerated and what isn't. And if we don't like the rules we can always move on.
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  • jkacura39
    jkacura39 Posts: 68
    edited April 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    No, you can't guarantee that and that is where the poor attitude lies. This is a forum and you wouldn't know these people from spit. Many of them have very diverse backgrounds, quite a few are electrical techs or engineers. Many, in fact, most of them have gained their experience from doing and THEN talking about it.


    I appologize to the people with the real knowledge and education, but thats why i didnt say everyone.

    just making a statement on my thoughts about what Knucklehead brought up.

    im glad that you think my attitude is poor just because i said some of the people on here are a-holes
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    Many have known each other for years and a few we knew personally even passed away like Greg and Shane and the charming Tiffany. They are sorely missed and often remembered for the people they were, not the names on the forum. These are friends, family, brothers and sisters. N00bs are not going to be readily accepted without a bit of trepidation because of that.

    nice post, John. Toast to Greg, I still have his Transparent IC.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,459
    edited April 2009
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    thanks for reaffirming my initial post!

    Are you kidding me!?! You are out of line.

    Something for you to consider, folks may not like a bully (although I don't see any here), but they loath a whiner.
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  • jkacura39
    jkacura39 Posts: 68
    edited April 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    Oh, OK, I see how it is.



    i was waiting for you to see that :)

    you had poor opinions of me from another post where i gave my opinion, another polk master started poking fun at me, so i returned the favor; then all the sudden i was a newbie who didnt know anything, i was atop the bozo list, i was going to be kicked off this forum, etc. etc. etc.

    that was what you thought after i just stood up for myself........ wait, it wasnt even that, just some guy had jokes for me so i just returned jokes to him.... (but he happened to be one of yall`s guys, not in a bad way or anything just all his friends started in on me over it) it was other people that seemed to get heated over the whole thing..
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited April 2009
    you know what.........nevermind. This is pointless.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,206
    edited April 2009
    Tell us how you really feel. Don't just copy/paste an article and pawn it off as your own.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/532829/online_forum_etiquette_how_to_deal.html?cat=15
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited April 2009
    HA HA Im out of line?......WTF? I have an opinion so Im out of line? And ummmm....thanks for reaffirming my initial post...again.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited April 2009
    Let the name calling begin. I'm out of here also.
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  • jkacura39
    jkacura39 Posts: 68
    edited April 2009
    KrazyMofo24 wrote: »
    Tell us how you really feel. Don't just copy/paste an article and pawn it off as your own.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/532829/online_forum_etiquette_how_to_deal.html?cat=15



    ha!!!

    thats pretty funny



    oh by the way, i just wrote this formula for Standard Deviation
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,459
    edited April 2009
    KrazyMofo24 wrote: »
    Tell us how you really feel. Don't just copy/paste an article and pawn it off as your own.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/532829/online_forum_etiquette_how_to_deal.html?cat=15

    OUCH, that's going to leave a mark!!!
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited April 2009
    never said i wrote it i said it was my opinion.....you know what im prolly gonna be kicked off of here anyway, so this is my last post, to the true polk forum moderator, these clowns are giving Polk a bad name, you should really consider kicking these idiots off of here, so for all of you jerkoffs who make the polk forum an unpleasant experience....**** OFF!
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,621
    edited April 2009
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    never said i wrote it i said it was my opinion.....you know what im prolly gonna be kicked off of here anyway, so this is my last post, to the true polk forum moderator, these clowns are giving Polk a bad name, you should really consider kicking these idiots off of here, so for all of you jerkoffs who make the polk forum an unpleasant experience....**** OFF!

    Geez, you're such a Knucklehead, Knucklehead :D
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2009
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    never said i wrote it i said it was my opinion.....you know what im prolly gonna be kicked off of here anyway, so this is my last post, to the true polk forum moderator, these clowns are giving Polk a bad name, you should really consider kicking these idiots off of here, so for all of you jerkoffs who make the polk forum an unpleasant experience....**** OFF!

    So funny. True colors always show.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    jkacura39 wrote: »
    i was waiting for you to see that :)

    you had poor opinions of me from another post where i gave my opinion, another polk master started poking fun at me, so i returned the favor; then all the sudden i was a newbie who didnt know anything, i was atop the bozo list, i was going to be kicked off this forum, etc. etc. etc.

    that was what you thought after i just stood up for myself........ wait, it wasnt even that, just some guy had jokes for me so i just returned jokes to him.... (but he happened to be one of yall`s guys, not in a bad way or anything just all his friends started in on me over it) it was other people that seemed to get heated over the whole thing..

    And then you thanked me for sticking up for you in another thread.

    Don't worry, you're well past the bozo list now.

    Oh and as far as the people with education that you are apologizing to, apology accepted. I have a Bachelor of Science degree from Drexel University in Information Sciences and Technology. I have a laundry list of experience in numerous professions that would span several pages too.

    You have no idea who is here and what their backgrounds are. So to you and Knucklehead, thank you both for illustrating MY points.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited April 2009
    Reported.









































    I'm just bullshittin' I ain't no rat.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    A good Engineering School there! I almost went to U. of Penn. Drexel borders Penn as I remember!


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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited April 2009
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    never said i wrote it i said it was my opinion.....you know what im prolly gonna be kicked off of here anyway, so this is my last post, to the true polk forum moderator, these clowns are giving Polk a bad name, you should really consider kicking these idiots off of here, so for all of you jerkoffs who make the polk forum an unpleasant experience....**** OFF!

    Didn't take but 2 pages for you to come completely unwound. Gotta love it, great Friday entertainment........right before The Masters starts too.....great timing now I don't have to miss either.

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    A good Engineering School there! I almost went to U. of Penn. Drexel borders Penn as I remember!


    cnh

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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited April 2009
    So sorry to post one last time but I thought I would give you a link to a Frontline show that shows how prejudice and bullying functions. The link is a little less than an hour and I think is worth watching. It certainly changed how I think.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/divided/etc/view.html
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  • John30_30
    John30_30 Posts: 1,024
    edited April 2009
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    but is really too much for people to just be polite?

    I believe the proper response here would be "WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited April 2009
    Again, you guys take this place far too seriously. I don't pay any attention to any of these hacks...LOL
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited April 2009
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    I have an opinion so Im out of line?

    So what is this opinion you have?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited April 2009
    madmax wrote: »
    So what is this opinion you have?
    madmax

    He cut and pasted his opinion.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited April 2009
    strider wrote: »
    Who has the power?

    he-man.jpg

    He-man!

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2009
    I only bully people smaller than me.
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  • jkacura39
    jkacura39 Posts: 68
    edited April 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    And then you thanked me for sticking up for you in another thread.



    What thread was that?? i dont remember that, but if you can show me then ill appologize but i think your wrong there
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