My wife blew my RTI 12s, some advice needed

arttymus
arttymus Posts: 12
edited February 2009 in Speakers
Hiya all, I need a little help/advice for my RTI 12s(and also RTI 6s).

My system is as follows:-
Yamaha RXV2500 processor
Outlaw 7500 power amp
Denon DVD 3910
RTi 12s front
RTi 6s rear
CSi 5 center
Kimber 4tc for front speakers
cheapo cable for rears
various good quality interconnects

My system is in my basement which is about 35ft long by 12ft at one end(where my setup is) and expands to about 24ft at other end.

Last weekend we had a party and for ease i hooked up my I-pod to my yamaha. Due to the nature of I-pods, compression etc the volume isn't as loud as it is for cds, but try telling that to my wife!
As the night progressed the drunker we got my wife seemed to think there was unlimited volume from my stereo she just kept jacking it up and up and I kept turning it down. Eventually she jacked it up too much that the RTi 12s stopped working.
After some investigation the next day i discovered that the amps were ok but the speakers had blown, well I am still getting sound from the woofers but no mid range or tweeters. I'm not an expert but to me I think the crossovers have blown.
Can anybody offer me some advice/help on how to go about properly diagnosing the problem and the best way to fix them if it would be cost affective.

On a side note shortly after getting my Outlaw amp about 1 1/2 years ago I decided to try it out on my RTi 6s as main stereo, I cranked them up and they sounded pretty good for a while and then I blew one of the drivers. Can someone point me in the right direction to find a replacement, again I dont want to spend too much on a replacement for these as you can pick up a new pair fairly cheaply but at the same time I dont want to trash them.

Many Thanks for any advice/help....Art
PS I will consider divorce as an option hehe
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2009
    Use a multimeter set to ohms and check the resistance across the + and - terminals on the suspected blown drivers.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    arttymus wrote: »
    My wife blew my RTI 12s, some advice needed

    Dump her.
































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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited February 2009
    Cheer up man; the door is wide open---you need new speakers now right?...LOL

    ...OR option 2...

    "Honey, if you want to listen that loud, I'll need a new power amp..."

    Either way it's a win-win scenario. See, there is a silver lining. She is a KEEPER man.
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  • suprafantx
    suprafantx Posts: 249
    edited February 2009
    arttymus wrote: »

    "my wife seemed to think there was unlimited volume from my stereo she just kept jacking it up and up and I kept turning it down"

    Lucky you man, my case is opposite with your. Every time I turn the volume up and my wife will turn the volume down. Probably my speakers will last forever. :p:p
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  • Whadyasay
    Whadyasay Posts: 300
    edited February 2009
    "My wife blew my RTI 12s, some advice needed"


    Woofer enhancement?


    Aside from that...I've got some SDA's......
    Polk LSi9 Mains, Polk LSIC Center, Polk RT25i Surrounds, Polk M3II Rear Surround, SVS PB10-ISD Sub, Denon AVR 2809 (as digital pre/pro only), Sony BDP-S350, Oppo DV-981HD, Cambridge Audio Azur 540C (CD), Marantz MM9000 5-ch amp, Outlaw ICBM, Panasonic th-42PX85u HDTV, Behringer BFD Pro, Monster Power HTS 2600 Conditioner
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,206
    edited February 2009
    Yo Yo Yo easy with that title Bro......LOL
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited February 2009
    arttymus, fwiw, Yes, you can get a pair of RTi12's @ amazon for $740/ pr. BUT, when you add in S/H and taxes, it'll probably run you around $900+/-, which I don't think a set of mid's will cost from Polk.
    I'd follow Faces' advice and determine exactly what's wrong and work from there.
    BTW, I'd make the Mrs. PAY for everything! And NOT from the 'Joint account' EITHER!!
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2009
    Call Polk Customer svs & tell them what happened & see if they have replacement parts. Tell them you are a Club Polk member for a discount. Welcome to Club Polk!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    It's time for the new wife mod. Nuff said.:p
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited February 2009
    I know some of the guys have gotten freaky with the power ports, but I didn't even think about someone handling the extruding parts of the speakers........power to the wife for goin after what she wanted...... :D
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • arttymus
    arttymus Posts: 12
    edited February 2009
    I put a meter across the mid range drivers and tweeters, the lower mid range in both speakers seam to be ok, the upper drivers and tweeters are dead.
    Why wouldn't I hear any sound from the one driver that seams fine?

    Anyway looks like some replacement drivers and tweeters, what is the possibility of the crossovers being bad as well?

    Regards and Many Thanks...Art
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,477
    edited February 2009
    tell the wife you need new amps and a pair of 1.2t's if she really wants it loud!!!!!!!!!!
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,249
    edited February 2009
    arttymus wrote: »
    Anyway looks like some replacement drivers and tweeters, what is the possibility of the crossovers being bad as well?
    Art, IME the crossovers should be fine. They just deliver the power. The resistive part [Tweeters and mids] are the ones to kick the bucket first.

    Have you hooked up any of the drivers in question straight up to the amp AT LOW VOLUME to see if they do indeed work? If they do work, at that point I would suspect the x-over but I highly doubt that's the issue.

    In the future, I would consider an attenuator for parties like that. That way she can crank it up all the way without harm to the rig. ;)
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  • Johnnybass
    Johnnybass Posts: 39
    edited February 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    In the future, I would consider an attenuator for parties like that. That way she can crank it up all the way without harm to the rig. ;)


    Handcuff her to a chair:D;)
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    So...you say "your wife blew your RTi12's". Have you considered marriage counseling? :p:p;)
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    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,477
    edited February 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    So...you say "your wife blew your RTi12's". Have you considered marriage counseling? :p:p;)

    thats just wrong on so many different levels
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    thats just wrong on so many different levels

    I know...that's why I couldn't resist myself.:D;)
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  • RyanJoz
    RyanJoz Posts: 116
    edited February 2009
    J and R computer and audio world in NYC has the 12's. My father works for ups (there is a ups discount) and I got them brand new shipped for 822. Thats the easiest way to fix it......and then you can find out what is wrong with the others in the mean time.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited February 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    So...you say "your wife blew your RTi12's". Have you considered marriage counseling? :p:p;)

    :D
    Reminds me of the Eagles song (Lookin' for a lover who won't blow my brother...) er, something like that.:p

    OP: cheer up, you now have what we call LEVERAGE. A license to upgrade.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    LessisNevermore wrote: »
    :D
    Reminds me of the Eagles song (Lookin' for a lover who won't blow my brother...) er, something like that.:p

    OP: cheer up, you now have what we call LEVERAGE. A license to upgrade.

    Exactly!...you now have leverage to get those SDA's or LSi's that you've had your eye on.;);)


    And I believe I know the Eagles song you're talking about...can't recall the name offhand though.
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  • RyanJoz
    RyanJoz Posts: 116
    edited February 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    Exactly!...you now have leverage to get those SDA's or LSi's that you've had your eye on.;);)


    And I believe I know the Eagles song you're talking about...can't recall the name offhand though.

    "Take it Easy" is the name of the song.....and the lyrics are "lookin for a lover who won't blow my COVER"
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited February 2009
    RyanJoz wrote: »
    "Take it Easy" is the name of the song.....and the lyrics are "lookin for a lover who won't blow my COVER"

    Clearly the attempted humor sailed a bit high....;)
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    LessisNevermore wrote: »
    Clearly the attempted humor sailed a bit high....;)

    Apparently so...I also forgot to put in a ":p, or ;)" in my post...lol...I know the lyrics aren't "blow my brother".:p;)

    Sarcasm can go amiss from time to time though...
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  • arttymus
    arttymus Posts: 12
    edited February 2009
    Thanks for all the help/advice..

    I tested the mid range drivers in my RTi 12s, both the top drivers and tweeters in each speaker are bad.
    Anyone know of a generic source of these?
    Also are the drivers different for left or right speaker?

    Regards and Thanks...Art
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,208
    edited February 2009
    arttymus wrote: »
    ... Anyone know of a generic source of these? ...
    Why a generic source? I would check with c/s first. Their pricing can be very reasonable in my experience, and at least you'd be sure they would sound right when you get the parts, not to mention the advice they could give in case of any difficulties installing things.

    Trying generic alternatives might end up being money thrown away if it doesn't work out, unless you really know exactly what you are doing IMO.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited February 2009
    arttymus wrote: »
    Thanks for all the help/advice..

    I tested the mid range drivers in my RTi 12s, both the top drivers and tweeters in each speaker are bad.
    Anyone know of a generic source of these?
    Also are the drivers different for left or right speaker?

    Regards and Thanks...Art

    Are you sure its the drivers and not something on the crossover board?
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  • arttymus
    arttymus Posts: 12
    edited February 2009
    hi madden, yeah I think so I took the drivers out and tested them.

    Thanks..Art
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