Late middle aged moment...

Ron Temple
Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
edited December 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
I've been playing with the Luxman TP-114 pre/tuner married to my Luxman M-117 for about a month now. It's got amazing synergy, a very lush midrange and incredibly sweet, detailed treble response. However, my bass disappeared. It was there, but the punch and slam were gone. I put the Carver in it's place and the bass got better, but the midrange and treble while good, weren't in the same class. After all the 2 Luxman units were meant to be paired up. I just decided to live with it.

I'd been using my Sony BD S300 as the player, as I now prefer it to the Oppo.

Last night, I wanted to listen to some DVD A and SACD in 2 channel, so I used the Oppo as the source. Wow, what a huge difference. Bass was slammy wammy, incredible balance and listening to 2 channel at 192/24 gave me some imaging lock, I'd never heard before on this rig. I was playing through some settings and noted that I had my fronts set to Large in the players setup menu. This got me thinking and I recalled that I had set the Sony's BM for my fronts to run Small.

Doh!!!

Rehooked up the Sony, changed it to Large, put in Sarah MacGlachlan's Solace, track 2, (very cooked on the low end), wham, bass is back and it's all good.

Sometimes I wonder what the f*ck I'm doing. I can't remember to check the obvious stuff.

Another Senior moment, but I'm just not quite ready to take on that label...so late middle aged will have to do.

Combo rig:

Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
PB13Ultra RO
BW Silvers
Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited December 2008
    I'm just glad someone else does these things too :o
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited December 2008
    Funny,had many a moments just like that myself.But....um...please define "late middle aged".......as I am yet not ready to conceid the issue.Yeah,denial is great,isn't it?

    Glad all is well with the rig,just keep your upcomming prostate problems to yourself.:p:D
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited December 2008
    Nope; never happens to me.






























    I wish. :)
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited December 2008
    At the advanced age of 56, I feel like I've only got two brain cells left,and they're not speaking to each other!!:(:)
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited December 2008
    Yeah, everybody steps on their dick from time to time, but usually it doesn't take a month to step back off.:eek:
    tonyb wrote:
    Glad all is well with the rig,just keep your upcomming prostate problems to yourself.

    Ya know, it is getting about time to let a stranger fondle my privates in penetrating fashion again. Thanks for the reminder. :cool::cool::cool:

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2008
    Ron Temple wrote:
    Another Senior moment, but I'm just not quite ready to take on that label...so late middle aged will have to do.

    Senior???? Look...I just turned 55 last week and I'm thinking it's time to go through my middle age crisis. I'm working on several decadent and totally irresponsible ideas that I can "blame" on said "crisis" that would normally not be tolerated. ;)
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • Igo
    Igo Posts: 411
    edited December 2008
    Umm. I'm 50.......I'm going into the living room and set my ES back to "Large". <farts like old guy>
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited December 2008
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Yeah, everybody steps on their dick from time to time, but usually it doesn't take a month to step back off.:eek:



    Ya know, it is getting about time to let a stranger fondle my privates in penetrating fashion again. Thanks for the reminder. :cool::cool::cool:

    That is hilarious Ron. Oh my God. ;):D
    And I thought I did crazier things when I was younger. Only thing is that I have just decreased the risk factor and increased the budget in everything I do now. I just blame it on old age. :eek: :rolleyes:
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2008
    shack wrote: »
    Senior???? Look...I just turned 55 last week and I'm thinking it's time to go through my middle age crisis. I'm working on several decadent and totally irresponsible ideas that I can "blame" on said "crisis" that would normally not be tolerated. ;)

    I'm also at the ripe old age of 55...a little mid-life crisis gift to myself:D
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited December 2008
    Looks like you dealt with it just fine ;)
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited December 2008
    LOL. I love it. I switch around gear and sometimes forget to set it up and listen and think, "damn this thing sucks ****" , Only to find out I didn't set it up...Join the club man.

    38 over here,

    Dan
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2008
    51 here and I have plenty of moments like this. I've taken to writing notes to myself and the dining room table looks like one of those post it notes commercials. When I have a massive brain **** or I'm wandering around the house with a blank look on my face either my wife or the kids tell me to check the dining room.

    Gordon
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited December 2008
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    51 here and I have plenty of moments like this. I've taken to writing notes to myself and the dining room table looks like one of those post it notes commercials. When I have a massive brain **** or I'm wandering around the house with a blank look on my face either my wife or the kids tell me to check the dining room.

    Gordon
    waaaaaa That is so funny.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2008
    Mike Reeter wrote: »
    I'm also at the ripe old age of 55...a little mid-life crisis gift to myself:D

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    This is one of the things I'm looking at....

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    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2008
    shack wrote: »
    This is one of the things I'm looking at....

    2008-suzuki-sv650-1_800x0w.jpg

    Holy **** man,you are suffering from the big MLC...Go for it:D

    You will "feel" 30 years younger...I guarantee it.
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  • DForeman
    DForeman Posts: 468
    edited December 2008
    Glad to see I am not the only one having middle aged moments (46). I will be getting a new audio rack soon requiring me to unhook and rehook everything up. Invariably in these situations I overlook obvious settings (like turning the amp on - this really happened once) adding hours to the process.
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    Oppo BDP-103
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2008
    :D:D:D:eek::eek::eek::D:D:D

    OMG...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:D Thank you very much guys, you all have given me one of the best laughs I've had in a while!!!!:D
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited December 2008
    I wish I could read this post, I laid my glasses down and can't find them.

    Where the heck is my glasses:mad:
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    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
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  • Igo
    Igo Posts: 411
    edited December 2008
    Now I"M emotional. Do you know how hard it is to find your glasses without your glasses?
    ...Link to my System Showcase...
    "ES - Kind'a simple but I like it"

    Sony ES STR-DA4300ES 7.1
    Sony ES SACD SCD-C2000ES
    Sony 400 Disc CD CDP-CX455
    Infinity BU-2 Sub-Woofer
    Polk Audio RT800i Towers
    Polk Audio CS400i Center
    Polk Audio FXiA6 Surrounds
    Sennheiser HD 280 Pro Headphones
    DH-Labs T-14 Speaker Cables
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited December 2008
    thsmith wrote: »
    I wish I could read this post, I laid my glasses down and can't find them.

    Where the heck is my glasses:mad:
    That happens to me all the time. I need a pair of glasses to find my glasses. When I misplace them, it's "Honey, help me find my glasses" and she always does. They ought to put ringtones on them, so you can call them up just like when you lose your cell.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2008
    I had to get new glasses with "beefed" up bifocals about a month ago. My arms just were not long enough to read the paper anymore.

    Gordon
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2008
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    That happens to me all the time. I need a pair of glasses to find my glasses. When I misplace them, it's "Honey, help me find my glasses" and she always does. They ought to put ringtones on them, so you can call them up just like when you lose your cell.
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    I had to get new glasses with "beefed" up bifocals about a month ago. My arms just were not long enough to read the paper anymore.

    Gordon


    I can barely see with them , and can`t see anything without them...

    I`m just glad my hearing is still "sound" !! :p
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited December 2008
    beardog03 wrote: »

    I`m just glad my hearing is still "sound" !! :p

    Amen to that !
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2008
    beardog03 wrote: »
    I can barely see with them , and can`t see anything without them...

    I went to the eye doctor last Friday. I never ever had to wear glasses for anything until about 7 years ago when I discovered I needed reading glasses. NOW he tells me I might want to consider getting a little something for distance...**** bi-focals! That means I would have to wear them all the time. :( I'm going down kicking and screaming. I told him I would get the prescription like he recommended but I was taking them off when I wasn't reading...cause I don't need them. I think his machine was messed up and just wasn't working properly.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • seeclear
    seeclear Posts: 1,242
    edited December 2008
    shack wrote: »
    That means I would have to wear them all the time.



    I think his machine was messed up and just wasn't working properly.

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

    His "machine" is just fine. Guess what isn't fine? Your :eek: !!

    Bifocals doesn't mean you have to wear them all the time. But it means you can see near and far when you do have them on, and if you need a little help for distance sometimes you have it there to use.

    Getting older sucks, but what is the alternative?
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2008
    Nice bike Mike!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited December 2008
    Getting old is not for the weak or timid
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited December 2008
    Glad to see I'm not the only one in denial.Yeah,getting older sucks in some ways,but is better in others.This late middle aged thing is probably the best time of my life.Life is soo much like audio.......it's not the "here and now" but the "journey" that really puts a smile on your face.A learn as you go type of thing.I have never been happier to sugar-up the grandkids and send them home.:DOh...the sweet smell off revenge.You for sure learn how to laugh at yourself as time goes by.Tonight,I will tip one for the holidays,and all us middle aged nutjobs here at Polk Audio.Enjoy life friends,it's way too short to cry over spilled milk.:)

    I do like the ring tone idea to find your glasses,market that sucker.
    I forsee a "clapper" in your future George.:p
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2008
    LOL!:D No Shackster, it's YOUR eyes that are out of wack. And there is NO avoiding it.

    They now make multifocals that are for near, computer, & distance. Yes you wear them all the time, but at least you will be able to see clearly.

    The good news is that you are lucky your eyes started changing so late. And if you are lucky they will settle down sometime in the next 3 years or so, and should stay pretty stable for the rest of your life.

    My eyes started changing on me around 36 & the doctor told me then it would take about 10 years to stabilize. HE WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! And I was OUT of money every 2 years for the next 10 years!!!

    It hurts like hell having to shell out 500-1000.00 dollars for glasses every 2 years!:mad:

    So as my doctor told me 12 years ago...."Welcome to middle age!"

    shack wrote: »
    I went to the eye doctor last Friday. I never ever had to wear glasses for anything until about 7 years ago when I discovered I needed reading glasses. NOW he tells me I might want to consider getting a little something for distance...**** bi-focals! That means I would have to wear them all the time. :( I'm going down kicking and screaming. I told him I would get the prescription like he recommended but I was taking them off when I wasn't reading...cause I don't need them. I think his machine was messed up and just wasn't working properly.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2008
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Nice bike Mike!

    Thanks Ben,I wasn't trying to derail Ron's thread...I'm in the same boat as everyone else here that is in the PRIME of their life.

    I wear bi-focals,I have hearing aids,which are a pain when you're trying to listen to some tunes.

    I write myself lists of things that I need to pick up from the store,and then forget my list...or forget where I left it.

    What a minute...where did I put that remote???:D
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