Anybody know what ACORN is?

Jstas

Well, you should.

ACORN -- Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now

These guys are extremely left leaning and they use excessively aggressive tactics approaching racketeering to get voters registered. I've seen them all over Philly and they keep accosting me on my way in to work, at lunch, on my way to another building, on my way home, whenever. They want me to register to vote. Never mind the deadline was October 6th, 4 days ago, they are still doing it. They don't seem to care that I'm already registered and I have been registered for something like 13-14 years.

I wanted to know who these assmonkeys were so I did some research and what do you know, look what turned up!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/news/politics/1_voter__72_registrations_132965.htm


Yeah, if you meet any of these tools, tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine and then find a police officer.


BTW, I'm not trying to put a political post up here. I just posting about something that I think totally sucks and needs attention so a stop can be put to it. I'm honestly appalled and angered that these yahoos are gonna dilute the power my vote and yours has by making up these "Imaginary Americans". If things go political, I can't stop them but there is really no disagreement here. No side should support this in any way, shape or form.

obieone

Bro, Democracy just isn't good enough! Spoiled whiners, ALL OF THEM!!!
And yeah, I heard about them a long time ago. Ofcourse, you'll be hard pressed to hear about them in the mainstream media

GEBBY44

As a fellow Philly citizen, I can second these assclowns being the most annoying things in Philly since Stephen A. Smith. They will literally hunt you down. Beware.

ohskigod

unless I am mistaken,

I believe the major reason for this is the simple fact that ACORN pays these people you see in the street "per registration"

it is, simply, a system set up that blatantly rewards fraud.

now which candidate is closly related to ACORN? oooops, no politics. nevermind

rayslifecycle

Demand your votes are counted.....no matter who you vote for.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

bobman1235

ohskigod wrote: »

now which candidate is closly related to ACORN? oooops, no politics. nevermind

The funny thing about that is how readily people will blame the OTHER side for all voter fraud, and yet the most blatant and obvious fraud is coming straight from these guys, and you never hear a thing about it.

George Grand

Jstas wrote: »

Well, you should.

ACORN -- Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now

These guys are extremely left leaning and they use excessively aggressive tactics approaching racketeering to get voters registered. I've seen them all over Philly and they keep accosting me on my way in to work, at lunch, on my way to another building, on my way home, whenever."

Start wearing regular work pants to work instead of tight jeans that flaunt your **** all over the place John.

ohskigod

George Grand wrote: »

Start wearing regular work pants to work instead of tight jeans that flaunt your **** all over the place John.

George, I know you hate simple posts like this, but I'm doin it anyway


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! :D:D:D

PolkThug

I saw "they" registered Jimmy Johns (a sandwich shop) LOL

Polksaladanni

They registered the Dallas Cowboys starting line-up (no BS) in Nevada. The Feds raided them and have the forms in hand. Ohio is foobar at this point.

It was on Fox Cable News 2 days ago......

The world is just a crooked place. SAD.....

Do your fact checks and research on cadidate associations before voting!!!!!!!!

dave shepard

With the new electronic voting system you can bet it is fixed and the winner has already been chosen. We just wont find out till they are ready to tell us who they chose.

mrbigbluelight

There are two sides to every coin.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/acorn-office-raid-linked-_b_132705.html


I personally consider the worse voter registration fraud to be the VP choice by one of the Presidential candidates.

Dennis Gardner

My understanding is that ACORN will be a major recipient from any profits made from the 7 Billion dollar bailout sales. This porkbarrel amounts to 20% of all government profits must go to groups like them.

I am never surprised at how deep the corruption is and how much money is involved in our government's legal kickbacks attached to what could be good legislation. If we only truly knew the extent........

bobman1235

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

There are two sides to every coin.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/acorn-office-raid-linked-_b_132705.html

From the Huffington Post, that bastion of unbiased news and information.

With the new electronic voting system you can bet it is fixed and the winner has already been chosen. We just wont find out till they are ready to tell us who they chose.

So are you just afraid of technology, or a loony toon? How does the fact that the voting is electronic vs a piece of paper affect anything? Stuffing a ballot box is just as easy or difficult as hacking into an electronic machine. If you think someone has the means and willingness to do either, they could do both.

LessisNevermore

bobman1235 wrote: »

So are you just afraid of technology, or a loony toon? How does the fact that the voting is electronic vs a piece of paper affect anything? Stuffing a ballot box is just as easy or difficult as hacking into an electronic machine. If you think someone has the means and willingness to do either, they could do both.

Manipulation can, and has happened. Here's something you might want to check out. http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/ It's not such a technophobe, or loony toon concept. (ymmv)
I don't own a tin foil hat, but considering being sized for one.

PolkThug

This article sheds a little more light.

John30_30

Dennis Gardner wrote: »

My understanding is that ACORN will be a major recipient from any profits made from the 7 Billion dollar bailout sales. This porkbarrel amounts to 20% of all government profits must go to groups like them.

I am never surprised at how deep the corruption is and how much money is involved in our government's legal kickbacks attached to what could be good legislation. If we only truly knew the extent........

Got a link for your info, Dennis?

bobman1235

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obieone

I saw John Kasich on t.v. last night, and he was saying that the Ohio Sec. of State was refusing to investigate, or check any of the registrations. NOT gonna say what party she belongs to....

tonyb

I wonder if the big push for early voteing has anything to do with this.Ya know,get those bogus votes counted in before they are discovered as bogus.We need to start throwing peoples asses in jail,with this and our financial institutions.....and our government for that matter.

Kex

If people get paid to register new voters, some are probably going to abuse the system ... to get paid, not necessarily to try and influence the result of an election. Getting people registered is one thing, they'll need some form of I.D. to actually vote when the day comes. False registrations is not equivalent to fraudulent votes. It shouldn't matter at all if there is proper I.D. verification at voting locations.

bobman1235

Kex wrote: »

If people get paid to register new voters, some are probably going to abuse the system ... to get paid, not necessarily to try and influence the result of an election. Getting people registered is one thing, they'll need some form of I.D. to actually vote when the day comes. False registrations is not equivalent to fraudulent votes. It shouldn't matter at all if there is proper I.D. verification at voting locations.

Have you ever even been to a voting booth? Every time I've voted it's been an 80-year old woman "checking IDs", I'm pretty sure I could give her my library card and get the same result.

No offense to the elderly, just saying it's not like the TSA is running voting locations.

obieone

A lot of states DON'T require an ID! I don't remeber which states, but there were several, I think N.J. was one of them. There was a big deal about the ACLU, and a bunch of left-leaning groups being opposed to it.
Now I know why.

bobman1235

Here's a rundown of some ID rules. But regardless, they're VERY easy to get around.

Kex

bobman1235 wrote: »

Here's a rundown of some ID rules. But regardless, they're VERY easy to get around.

If you ask me, that is the real problem, not ACORN. That association may very well be trying to help Obama, but they are probably doing more harm than good by alienating independents. In any case, the government can and should make the voting process more secure. Electronic voting, which seems to scare some people (for obvious reasons) could be part of the solution (real time verification of SSN or valid ID numbers, for example). It is incredible to me that in a huge democracy such as the U.S., we still don't trust that our votes are properly counted.

There will always be dishonest people around, just like everywhere else within our society. They are not the majority, but they cannot be ignored either. Secure transactions are a widely used technology. Surely there is a way to creat secure voting ...

Deadof_knight

Its one thing to be dishonest and another to be outloud like the Secretary did by not doing her job, that should say to her voters that she isnt worth having in the office and should be ask to resign, Im fine with winning fairly but when someone is stealing the election (the highest office)it just goes to show how low our candidates and the partisan sides will go.

bobman1235

Kex wrote: »

If you ask me, that is the real problem, not ACORN. That association may very well be trying to help Obama, but they are probably doing more harm than good by alienating independents. In any case, the government can and should make the voting process more secure. Electronic voting, which seems to scare some people (for obvious reasons) could be part of the solution (real time verification of SSN or valid ID numbers, for example). It is incredible to me that in a huge democracy such as the U.S., we still don't trust that our votes are properly counted.

There will always be dishonest people around, just like everywhere else within our society. They are not the majority, but they cannot be ignored either. Secure transactions are a widely used technology. Surely there is a way to creat secure voting ...

Voter verification is a SOLUTION to a problem, a problem exploited and purposefully manipulated by people and in particular ACORN.

Just because there is a loophole in the system doesn't mean you can give a free pass to people immorally and illegally exploiting the loophole. ACORN knows what they are doing - manufacturing votes that should not be counted. REgardless of who those votes are for, that is illegal. One very obvious solution is better ID-ing at the polls, but that is a tough thing to get through (a lot of people fight it for a variety of reasons), so until it DOES happen a concerted effort should be put forth to stem other causes of voter fraud, including the tactics of ACORN. Right?

Kex

bobman1235 wrote: »

Voter verification is a SOLUTION to a problem, a problem exploited and purposefully manipulated by people and in particular ACORN. ...

Isn't that a bit like saying we don't need the TSA in airports, we just have to make sure bad people can't exploit the loophole and get on airplanes with stupid ideas about explosives in their shoe? Or we don't need car alarms and electronic key fobs nor theft insurance, we just have to make sure dishonest people won't try to steal our cars? ... Most of our laws would not be needed if there were only honest people around, and most of our laws do not cure the problem of dishonest people being present in society. I'm not sure what is so different here from any other issue where society needs to protect itself from anarchy.

bobman1235

No no, don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the best solution is probably better identification at the polls. HOWEVER, that is a tough thing to get passed. So in the meantime, until THAT particular solution is available, we can't just let people get away with manipulating the law.

In your example, say the TSA wasn't allowed to randomly screen people. Does that mean that anyone who gets through with a bomb strapped to their chest is absolved of the crime just because we didn't have the correct measures in place to catch them?

Read up on requiring ID at the polls. It is a VERY hotly debated subject that isn't going to be resolved anytime soon, and in the meantime I feel like we have to do something about people like ACORN manipulating elections, not just let them do their thing and steal elections until the real solution is finally enacted 20 years from now.

Kex

bobman1235 wrote: »

... in the meantime I feel like we have to do something about people like ACORN manipulating elections, not just let them do their thing and steal elections ...

Hopefully, with all the coverage of this on the news channels, something will be done, and investigatin ACORN thoroughly might be a part of this. There may be things happening now that have not been announced publicly as yet. Nobody should undermine Americans' confidence in the electoral process, which has already happened in the last two elections (too close for comfort, recounts, allegations ...).

sbpolk

You guys aren't considering mail in ballots. If you do early registration, you can get a mail in ballot and vote without ID, in many states.

Also, with stats out all the time about how many new democrat voters there are, it can have psycholigical effect on other voters. Does anybody remember the hubaloo, when the east coast had Kerry winning, and it depressed voter turnout on the west coast?